The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:42 pm**

What's your opinion on Scotty, Tim?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:47 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:40 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm They are Daedra shrines...they are almost all some degree of "bad." According to the game materials it appears we all (town and maf) have a number of shrines to choose from and those shrines will give various abilities. I take that to mean that no players in particular are special and that the typical "PR" stuff will be handed out of the shrines to whoever. Presumably the maf will use those powers against the town and the town will try to use those powers against the maf...but the shrines/daedra themselves are best looked at as just neutral.
I don't think all Daedra are evil. Meridia and Azura are arguably good. Hircine is more of a force of nature than something that falls into the spectrum of good and evil. Sheogorath is mostly harmless.

The Daedra aren't evil. Mostly they don't give a damn. In the sense of "destruction clears a place for something new, so it isn't good or evil, just happens." Mehrunes Dagon doesn't want to destroy everything out of some evil intent, it's just what he does. Generally though his followers will be asking him for "hey destroy my enemies first" type favors so most people are gonna get a bad feeling towards him.

Anyway, in most ES settings I just try to steer clear of Daedra, but I'll go shrining along with everyone else at night and try to get something useful for the town.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:50 pm**

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Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:51 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm Since me, Mac and Tim all mercilessly slaughtered each other when all three of us were town in Double Elimination we should make up for it by agreeing to hold hands and dance in a circle and treat each other as locktown this game.

Someone so quick to townlock others 45 minutes into the game makes me uncomfy.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm**

Locking scottie town

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:42 pm What's your opinion on Scotty, Tim?

Seems okay. Response to Mac and you with the out of the blue tunnel maybe a little too calm, but they seem to have experience with Mac so maybe they just expect that kind of thing. The lack of experience with ES games seems honest to me, for whatever that proves to be worth.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:54 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:51 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm Since me, Mac and Tim all mercilessly slaughtered each other when all three of us were town in Double Elimination we should make up for it by agreeing to hold hands and dance in a circle and treat each other as locktown this game.
Someone so quick to townlock others 45 minutes into the game makes me uncomfy.

They hard called you wolf off some opening post NAI stuff and you just fluffed that off, but you are uncomfortable with an equally unfounded town read?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:54 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:50 pm ~
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No trophies for you

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:56 pm**

What’s with all the town locks already? Stop that.

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Kyle locked as town

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:56 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:25 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:24 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:11 pm Scotty is a wolf lock it in Sloonei.
I agree.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
Hello, I see I have never played with you before.

Nice to..uhm,,,meet you too?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:26 pm If anyone has a dayvig and would like to make Syndicate history for the fastest wolf kill recorded on this site you may direct your attentions to the person I am voting.
You definitely have never played with me, and thats fine.

I don’t like how sure you are, however.

This tonal discrepancy is unexplainable by anything other than a red role card.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:57 pm**

Being uncomfortable with strong early reads is either scum nervous about how quick town are launching into solving or a site culture issue where they come from a community whose site meta is to dick around D1. However Scotty has experience with MacDougall and doesn't seem to be a first-time Syndicator so I am doubting the latter explanation.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:57 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:51 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm Since me, Mac and Tim all mercilessly slaughtered each other when all three of us were town in Double Elimination we should make up for it by agreeing to hold hands and dance in a circle and treat each other as locktown this game.
Someone so quick to townlock others 45 minutes into the game makes me uncomfy.
They hard called you wolf off some opening post NAI stuff and you just fluffed that off, but you are uncomfortable with an equally unfounded town read?

It’s far more dangerous to town lock someone early than it is to sus. That’s how town gets shazammed by a towny mafia

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 7:59 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:57 pm Being uncomfortable with strong early reads is either scum nervous about how quick town are launching into solving or a site culture issue where they come from a community whose site meta is to dick around D1. However Scotty has experience with MacDougall and doesn't seem to be a first-time Syndicator so I am doubting the latter explanation.

I’m gonna go with playstyle discrepancy for 400, Alex (RIP)

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:01 pm**

This game went from 0-100 real quick. I wouldn't put it past Alison to out this game in overdrive if she was a wolf

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:01 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:57 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:51 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm Since me, Mac and Tim all mercilessly slaughtered each other when all three of us were town in Double Elimination we should make up for it by agreeing to hold hands and dance in a circle and treat each other as locktown this game.
Someone so quick to townlock others 45 minutes into the game makes me uncomfy.
They hard called you wolf off some opening post NAI stuff and you just fluffed that off, but you are uncomfortable with an equally unfounded town read?
It’s far more dangerous to town lock someone early than it is to sus. That’s how town gets shazammed by a towny mafia

Well, presuming that you are town getting bumrushed by tunnelers before the day even gets started is definitely bad for your victory conditions (if you really get hard tunneled that will give the wolves every opportunity to just luff through day one), where a poor town read probably won't hurt you for several days at least.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:03 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:01 pm This game went from 0-100 real quick. I wouldn't put it past Alison to out this game in overdrive if she was a wolf

Do you put it past her if she is town? Because frankly if you don't this is pretty much just unwarranted shading over something that is NAI.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:03 pm**

Scotty:
-> Claims early reads makes him uncomfortable
-> Tell's others to stop town reading others
-> Immediately follows that up townlocking Kyle.
-> Posts something from reddit

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:04 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:03 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:01 pm This game went from 0-100 real quick. I wouldn't put it past Alison to out this game in overdrive if she was a wolf
Do you put it past her if she is town? Because frankly if you don't this is pretty much just unwarranted shading over something that is NAI.

No I don't.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:07 pm**

Hey fellas.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:07 pm**

Qwags wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:07 pmHey fellas.

Hello Qwags

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:08 pm**

Everyone meet my friend Qwags, Qwags meet everyone.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:09 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:04 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:03 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:01 pm This game went from 0-100 real quick. I wouldn't put it past Alison to out this game in overdrive if she was a wolf
Do you put it past her if she is town? Because frankly if you don't this is pretty much just unwarranted shading over something that is NAI.
No I don't.

Okay. Unwarranted shading is generally a bad thing, but you owned up to it so pass for now.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:10 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:08 pm Everyone meet my friend Qwags, Qwags meet everyone.

Don't forget about KZA. He is also my friend and an all around cool guy.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:10 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:08 pm Everyone meet my friend Qwags, Qwags meet everyone.

I am the y in everyone...nice to meet you Qwags.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:11 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:21 pm So, historically this is where I make the one word post; "first" and then dip for several hours. I have always found that amusing, since I am never actually first. However, I have been putting off a change in playstyle for several games due to an unfortunate series of rands and the opportunity has finally arrived. No one word humor driven first post. No threadsitting fluff posting. No obnoxiously refusing to give reads. I'm just here to town it up and if the wolves NK me for it that's fine.

I wanted to do this in GoC but that vig rand; I had to play it to stay alive. I have read through all the rules and such in the OP and my own role, and I think all the good power type actions are going to be available to all town players based on shrine visits so I am just one of many and eating the early NK will be fine.

I do have a pretty strong amount of experience with Elder Scrolls games, though I think Sloonei is writing a new story here and that knowledge is background at best. If anyone has questions I will try to help though. Ping me.

As a first cut, Azura is generally the most inclined to help mortals among the Daedra...and Mehrunes Dagon should really translate as "run the other way as fast as you can" so I am most likely not visiting that shrine ever.

>rand town

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:11 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:25 pm I think Tim is town.

Lol ok we gonna do this then

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:12 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:30 pm So far you have written performative fluff, attempted to derail the game into drawn out mechanics speculation, displayed awkward confusion when suspected, attempted to dissuade me from townreading Mac, and then pivoted directly into casting shade on me when I continue to suspect you.

Scotty, meet Alison.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:13 pm**

I really don't believe that Scotty genuinely thinks that me saying I want to form a town circle with Mac and Tim is going to lead to us throwing the endgame because we held onto that one post from page 1 throughout the entire game.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:14 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:37 pm Since me, Mac and Tim all mercilessly slaughtered each other when all three of us were town in Double Elimination we should make up for it by agreeing to hold hands and dance in a circle and treat each other as locktown this game.

I agree to do this until Tim invariably pings me late on day 1 and I proceed to tinfoil him for the next 3-4 days until he gets mischopped on day 4 and blames exclusively me for it.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:14 pm**

Qwags wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:10 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:08 pm Everyone meet my friend Qwags, Qwags meet everyone.
Don't forget about KZA. He is also my friend and an all around cool guy.

kza

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:41 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:34 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:31 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.

My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.

One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
If you have detailed info on what powers you get from various shrines you are way ahead of me, but I'm pretty deeply in the "yeah typical NPC type character" pool, so sure. Thanks for clarifying because I was mostly thinking this was your fairly typical early game claim and not really aligning well with the set-up, but it does make sense enough now.

Let me lead by example then: I’m going to scumread tim right now.

Maybe I am off base here, but I know exactly what the shrines I can access do, and I am town.
Could it be that some town roles don’t see that into? Maybe.
But I’m currently getting non commital vibes that don’t ring town in tim

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm Locking scottie town

Why tho

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm**

Scottie is blindingly obvious town

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:16 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:03 pm Scotty:
-> Claims early reads makes him uncomfortable
-> Tell's others to stop town reading others
-> Immediately follows that up townlocking Kyle.
-> Posts something from reddit

Tf did I post from reddit?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:17 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm Locking scottie town
Why tho

You're flying and can't see it from up there

But I, a driver, can see

The giant billboard that is Scotty being town

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:18 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:01 pm This game went from 0-100 real quick. I wouldn't put it past Alison to out this game in overdrive if she was a wolf

Reachy af Boner.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:18 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm Locking scottie town
Why tho
You're flying and can't see it from up there

But I, a driver, can see

The giant billboard that is Scotty being town

Is this a mason claim?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:18 pm**

Hi y'all. I played Elder Scrolls 3 until I got stuck in a cave. Pretty early on. That was it for me.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:20 pm**

I don't get it.

Fun fact- every game I've played on syndicate features Alison as wolf. Will this one be any different?

Well Alison?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:20 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:13 pm I really don't believe that Scotty genuinely thinks that me saying I want to form a town circle with Mac and Tim is going to lead to us throwing the endgame because we held onto that one post from page 1 throughout the entire game.

I said townlocking early is dangerous. Just cuz a man told you at the playground he has some candy in his van and offers his hand doesn’t mean it’s gonna be chuckecheese day. You gotta put on those shades and say, “no siree sir, candy’s cancer”

Candy is cancer

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:21 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:50 pm ~
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No trophies for you

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Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:22 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:41 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:34 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:31 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.

My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.

One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
If you have detailed info on what powers you get from various shrines you are way ahead of me, but I'm pretty deeply in the "yeah typical NPC type character" pool, so sure. Thanks for clarifying because I was mostly thinking this was your fairly typical early game claim and not really aligning well with the set-up, but it does make sense enough now.
Let me lead by example then: I’m going to scumread tim right now.

Maybe I am off base here, but I know exactly what the shrines I can access do, and I am town.
Could it be that some town roles don’t see that into? Maybe.
But I’m currently getting non commital vibes that don’t ring town in tim

I am just a humble merchant and don't know squat from what Daedric shrines do. If you seriously think "unaffiliated with Daedra" is gonna be a wolf tell in this setup, then...sure, go get it tiger. I think that's a really bad assumption.

Let's check the flip side...Alison says that like you she has info on what the shrines do for her...does that make her a lock town in your opinion?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:22 pm**

Qwags wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:07 pmHey fellas.

Quick- grab a longbow and join in this battle

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:23 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:50 pm ~
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Does this add a joint to the inventory?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:23 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm Locking scottie town
Why tho
You're flying and can't see it from up there

But I, a driver, can see

The giant billboard that is Scotty being town
Is this a mason claim?

sure is

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:24 pm**

I don't know what any Shrines do for anyone. Don't we have to visit them to find out? And should we share what they do publicly?

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:24 pm**

Qwags wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:07 pmHey fellas.

Hello Qwags, I understand you are friends with Bo. Any friend of Bo is a friend of mine.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:26 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:24 pm I don't know what any Shrines do for anyone. Don't we have to visit them to find out? And should we share what they do publicly?

Town.

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:29 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:41 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:34 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:31 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm I have a confirmable PR that is unambiguously town-sided.
This seems unlikely from Sloonei's opening material posts, but no one is likely to be in a hurry to kill you, so sure...demonstrate.
One of us is misunderstanding the setup I think.

My reading is that each character accesses different powers from different shrines. So as an example. Altmer Noble may be able to access shrines A, B, C, D and E. Argonian Mage may be able to access shrines C, D, E, F and G. Both can access shrine C but they get different powers from accessing shrine C based on the flavor of C as well as their own character's flavor.

One of the powers I can access from a shrine is confirmable and I think pretty pro-town.
If you have detailed info on what powers you get from various shrines you are way ahead of me, but I'm pretty deeply in the "yeah typical NPC type character" pool, so sure. Thanks for clarifying because I was mostly thinking this was your fairly typical early game claim and not really aligning well with the set-up, but it does make sense enough now.
Let me lead by example then: I’m going to scumread tim right now.

Maybe I am off base here, but I know exactly what the shrines I can access do, and I am town.
Could it be that some town roles don’t see that into? Maybe.
But I’m currently getting non commital vibes that don’t ring town in tim
I am just a humble merchant and don't know squat from what Daedric shrines do. If you seriously think "unaffiliated with Daedra" is gonna be a wolf tell in this setup, then...sure, go get it tiger. I think that's a really bad assumption.

Let's check the flip side...Alison says that like you she has info on what the shrines do for her...does that make her a lock town in your opinion?

No no I didn’t say anything about being unaffiliated with daedra, I said that you not knowing what at least one shrine does from your role card is suspicious.

And that’s based on literally an assumption you not matching my info is a scumtell. But I also acknowledge that this could be a dart throw

As to Alison being a town lock- not until I see something happen in thread that tells me she is town.

Though fwiw I think she is performing as a down to business town. Like Barbara from shark tank

Posted: **Tue May 11, 2021 8:29 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:52 pm Locking scottie town
Why tho
You're flying and can't see it from up there

But I, a driver, can see

The giant billboard that is Scotty being town
Is this a mason claim?

Not with me.

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