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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:24 am
by leetic
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:19 am
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:10 am Looks like leetic is dead meat today. Cool. I can go do other things.
Even if this is likely sarcastic, I take issue with this, especially since you have yet to engage with anyone who isn't me. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Uh, if you're a civilian, you should absolutely take issue with this. Why does this require a special announcement and the "especially" that follows?'
Why exactly, should I take issue with this? Is it that you're scum who is trying to go for an easy mislynch?

Also, give me GTH reads on DS, dunya, and nutella so that you're doing something other than going for an easy target.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:36 am
by Epignosis
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:24 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:19 am
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:10 am Looks like leetic is dead meat today. Cool. I can go do other things.
Even if this is likely sarcastic, I take issue with this, especially since you have yet to engage with anyone who isn't me. [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
Uh, if you're a civilian, you should absolutely take issue with this. Why does this require a special announcement and the "especially" that follows?'
Why exactly, should I take issue with this? Is it that you're scum who is trying to go for an easy mislynch?
You said you took issue with something I've said.

I am telling you that if you are truly a civilian, you wouldn't have phrased your objection in such terms ("I take issue with this") and that your objective would be one of attempting to sort me out, since you don't know my alignment. Instead you make a silly accusation against me and vote me. And you have doubled-down on it.

Finally, in one question you ask me if I am bad "trying to go for an easy mislynch."

That question asserts I'm evil and maintains you are good. At no point do you entertain the thought that we are both good.

You are not a civilian. You are a fraud.
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:24 am Also, give me GTH reads on DS, dunya, and nutella so that you're doing something other than going for an easy target.
All right, here we go:
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 am
by JiwonMeganPark
Hello everyone~
I will be announcing my votes by posting because I'm not a fan of this voting system, would be cool if you guys also did~

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 am
by Epignosis
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 am Hello everyone~
I will be announcing my votes by posting because I'm not a fan of this voting system, would be cool if you guys also did~
I'll do my best. And if you don't mind it would be cool if you could read through the posts and talk about them. No need to spend all your posts. Just a few would be peachy.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:45 am
by leetic
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 am Hello everyone~
I will be announcing my votes by posting because I'm not a fan of this voting system, would be cool if you guys also did~
I'll do my best. And if you don't mind it would be cool if you could read through the posts and talk about them. No need to spend all your posts. Just a few would be peachy.
Pocketing attempt?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:48 am
by Epignosis
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:45 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 am Hello everyone~
I will be announcing my votes by posting because I'm not a fan of this voting system, would be cool if you guys also did~
I'll do my best. And if you don't mind it would be cool if you could read through the posts and talk about them. No need to spend all your posts. Just a few would be peachy.
Pocketing attempt?
Pocket pool.
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:03 am
by JiwonMeganPark
Duskfall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:14 pm Nanook promised me a good role

Nanook lied
Believe it or not, I think dusk talking and memeing about his role is townish~
I think scum would be more conservative about it~

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:04 am
by nutella
Wew leetic is howling ez game ez life

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:05 am
by nutella
POE is leetic, tony, jack

everyone else has given me reason to townread them

gg see yall next game

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:10 am
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:05 am POE is leetic, tony, jack

everyone else has given me reason to townread them

gg see yall next game
I didn't earn that yet.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:12 am
by JiwonMeganPark
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:05 am POE is leetic, tony, jack

everyone else has given me reason to townread them

gg see yall next game
Do you townread people only for posting~?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:12 am
by leetic
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:05 am POE is leetic, tony, jack

everyone else has given me reason to townread them

gg see yall next game
Sorry if I sound like Mikey for a moment but you should be aware of confirmation bias.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:29 am
by JiwonMeganPark
leetic wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:02 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:57 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:55 pm
dunya wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:59 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

you are in three games at the same time! i say you gotta be bad in one of them, and why not this one. :p
This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.

This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.
So, with your limited posts, you used one to make this "witty" response? Seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest.
What's wrong with it?

dunya wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:20 pm leetic made 3 major mistakes.

1. his first entrance was to cast shade on someone about something that was already shaded by another person. piggybacking with a "safe" opinion. or that's what he thought.

2. and this post below is the biggest scum tell in my new scum-tell-notes. he shades nutella for "wasting a post" and brings attention to our "limited" posts. this happened to me on day 0 of my last racket, and surprise surprise, the person calling attention to the "post restrictions" was scum. and it was someone who never came close to hitting his quota anyway. 50 posts a day phase is a lot for most people. i bet more than half the players won't come even close to half of that on day 1. townies don't care about "preserving" posts, they're hungry for content and want to fire blast with opinions whenever it happens. people who are more aware of those numbers and trying to slow us down are more likely to be bad. i.e. it's a bad look, and i'm calling leetic bad.
leetic wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:02 pm
nutella wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:57 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:55 pm
dunya wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:59 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

you are in three games at the same time! i say you gotta be bad in one of them, and why not this one. :p
This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.

This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.
So, with your limited posts, you used one to make this "witty" response? Seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest.

3. he didn't vote. a lot of hot air, no putting his money where his fingers type. bad.


[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Duskfall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:39 pm I would've been more prepared if i was an infinite dayvig ngl
that seems...chaotic....and i like u.
Spicy, I like spicy~
[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:31 am
by nutella
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:12 am
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:05 am POE is leetic, tony, jack

everyone else has given me reason to townread them

gg see yall next game
Sorry if I sound like Mikey for a moment but you should be aware of confirmation bias.
my dedicated weeks as a spec chat warrior have ruined me on that i'm afraid

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:47 am
by JiwonMeganPark
This is scum Leeteuk after being caught from their first post~
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 am
by MacDougall
Do we really have DS in here? Holy shit. Wild times people. Wild times.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:55 am
by nutella
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 am Do we really have DS in here? Holy shit. Wild times people. Wild times.
we were going to have brad too lmfao :haha: but nanook swapped dunya in for him so we autowin :beer:

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:00 am
by DS.
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 am Do we really have DS in here? Holy shit. Wild times people. Wild times.
I saw it in the circus Maximus discord and then realized Nanook was running it and said fuck it.


Thought JJJ was in the game also but, I guess he backed out?

I wonder why :ohyeah:

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:06 am
by leetic
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:47 am This is scum Leeteuk after being caught from their first post~
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What are you going to do when I flip town?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:19 am
by MacDougall
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:00 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 am Do we really have DS in here? Holy shit. Wild times people. Wild times.
I saw it in the circus Maximus discord and then realized Nanook was running it and said fuck it.


Thought JJJ was in the game also but, I guess he backed out?

I wonder why :ohyeah:
I'll do my best JJJ impression.

You wouldn't happen to be pooping would you?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:19 am
by DS.
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:19 am
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:00 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 am Do we really have DS in here? Holy shit. Wild times people. Wild times.
I saw it in the circus Maximus discord and then realized Nanook was running it and said fuck it.


Thought JJJ was in the game also but, I guess he backed out?

I wonder why :ohyeah:
I'll do my best JJJ impression.

You wouldn't happen to be pooping would you?
I only talk shit actually

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:20 am
by DS.
How memey is this site


Because I kinda just want to quick lynch leetic right here lmfao

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:21 am
by DS.
God I already know this post cap is going to fuck me

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:24 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:30 pm I would like to open with the following argument:

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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:25 am
by Jackofhearts2005
[mention]leetic[/mention]

What have you done.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:27 am
by leetic
Alright, so with everyone showing up, guess how are defending me? 0. And no one besides myself has tried to bring up any targets other than me. If you think that this is what a D1 scum lynch looks like, then you are mistaken.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:32 am
by leetic
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:25 am @leetic

What have you done.
Also, this is a useless reaction. What do you mean, "what have you done". Seems a quick thing to say without having to commit to a side.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:32 am
by DS.
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:27 am Alright, so with everyone showing up, guess how are defending me? 0. And no one besides myself has tried to bring up any targets other than me. If you think that this is what a D1 scum lynch looks like, then you are mistaken.
This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:41 am
by leetic
You know what else is weird? The fact that I have more posts so far than anyone else here and yet I am the wagon for some reason. What do people have against getting anything done?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:42 am
by JiwonMeganPark
[VOTE: ] aubergine
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:32 am
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:27 am Alright, so with everyone showing up, guess how are defending me? 0. And no one besides myself has tried to bring up any targets other than me. If you think that this is what a D1 scum lynch looks like, then you are mistaken.
This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.
That's not even an entrance... What~?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:43 am
by DS.
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:42 am [VOTE: ] aubergine
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:32 am
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:27 am Alright, so with everyone showing up, guess how are defending me? 0. And no one besides myself has tried to bring up any targets other than me. If you think that this is what a D1 scum lynch looks like, then you are mistaken.
This seems a weird thing to jump on, to be honest. An easy entrance for scum.
That's not even an entrance... What~?
Did you not read the thread or what

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:43 am
by leetic
To everyone who thinks I am scum: Who do you think is my partner? Everyone has posted, so you should be able to find them (that is, if they actually existed in the first place).

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am
by JiwonMeganPark
Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am
by leetic
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
Who's my partner?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 am
by DS.
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
He was attempting to provide context to what seems like at best a joke wagon and at worst a yolo lynch

I think memeing in response to that is actually perfectly placed

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:49 am
by DS.
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
Who's my partner?
How fast do games usually go here that you think people would even have an answer to this yet?

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:50 am
by leetic
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:49 am
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
Who's my partner?
How fast do games usually go here that you think people would even have an answer to this yet?
My point was that if you look there are few people if any who have partner equity with me. It was more a callout of the hastiness surrounding my wagon.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am
by JiwonMeganPark
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
He was attempting to provide context to what seems like at best a joke wagon and at worst a yolo lynch

I think memeing in response to that is actually perfectly placed
I agree joking is fine but I didn't find it funny :< Nevertheless, to each their own~

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am
by DS.
87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:55 am
by DS.
That was @leetic sorry

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 am
by leetic
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:58 am
by nutella
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:50 am
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:49 am
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am
JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:45 am Sorry, I think I misclicked the vote button~ I am still voting for leetic~

Also DS, I've read the thread but that joke seems unplaced~
Who's my partner?
How fast do games usually go here that you think people would even have an answer to this yet?
My point was that if you look there are few people if any who have partner equity with me. It was more a callout of the hastiness surrounding my wagon.
the amount that i dont care about this is immeasurable

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 am
by DS.
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 am
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.
That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 am
by leetic
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 am
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:56 am
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:54 am 87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you
So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.
That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet
First of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:05 am
by DS.
It is undeniably noncooperative because your point makes no sense

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am
by DS.
You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:11 am
by leetic
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:12 am
by DS.
I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way

I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:13 am
by DS.
leetic wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:11 am
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.
Eh, that's fair. I take questions at face value.

Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:13 am
by JiwonMeganPark
To be honest, I'm not a fan of whole "this is town, take it to grave" thing when it is really just a gutread just on a post that is unrelated to game and don't have anything like meta behind it, and I hate when someone goes like "I've read all of the openings, this is most scummy VOTE: MOST SCUMMY OPENING PERSON" when everyone has at least like 15 posts, it is stupid do ignore all of the other posts and think reading solely based on opening when it is just something like "Hello everyone" is a good idea. MS stats says "greeting everyone openings" are more significantly scum than town for newbies but I don't think anyone here is a newbie? That being said, scummy things can be said in openings or first posts. My problem is with just focusing on first posts.