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Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:18 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Sprityo, I've missed you. We have not played together in awhile.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm
by sprityo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:18 pm Sprityo, I've missed you. We have not played together in awhile.
we'll see how long it takes for me to die. I plan on supah-towning this one :mafia:

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm
by sprityo
also jack, nice FATE avatar

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:22 pm
by MacDougall
Never fear I am here

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:26 pm
by Epignosis
MacDougall wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:22 pm Never fear I am here
Going to uh...send in any PMs this time around? :shifty:

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:33 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
sprityo wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm also jack, nice FATE avatar
Thank you. I'm trying to strongarm Speedchuck into watching it.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:38 pm
by novaselinenever
sprityo wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:18 pm Sprityo, I've missed you. We have not played together in awhile.
we'll see how long it takes for me to die. I plan on supah-towning this one :mafia:
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Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:00 pm
by Lunalee
nutella wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:11 pm hiiiiii!!

I'm in Japan for five more days so I probably won't be suuuper active but I'll try to check in regularly!
What!! I'm so jealous. I would love to hear about your trip!

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:02 pm
by Lunalee
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:17 pm But that makes it easier for the Witches to soup kill 'cause it narrows down heavily and they have access to the identity to night killed players as long as Necro is alive.
yeah, I would recommend no role claims by anyone ever. That soup thing could get messy quick.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:04 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Lunalee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:17 pm But that makes it easier for the Witches to soup kill 'cause it narrows down heavily and they have access to the identity to night killed players as long as Necro is alive.
yeah, I would recommend no role claims by anyone ever. That soup thing could get messy quick.
Nah, nah. Every other person just lie about your roleclaim.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:04 pm
by novaselinenever
Lunalee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:17 pm But that makes it easier for the Witches to soup kill 'cause it narrows down heavily and they have access to the identity to night killed players as long as Necro is alive.
yeah, I would recommend no role claims by anyone ever. That soup thing could get messy quick.
Hi witch!

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:06 pm
by Epignosis
Lunalee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:17 pm But that makes it easier for the Witches to soup kill 'cause it narrows down heavily and they have access to the identity to night killed players as long as Necro is alive.
yeah, I would recommend no role claims by anyone ever. That soup thing could get messy quick.
It won't. I've made sure of it.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:06 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:04 pm
Lunalee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:17 pm But that makes it easier for the Witches to soup kill 'cause it narrows down heavily and they have access to the identity to night killed players as long as Necro is alive.
yeah, I would recommend no role claims by anyone ever. That soup thing could get messy quick.
Hi witch!
Ah, the old "let me give you some strategy, fellow townies" tell.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:09 pm
by Lunalee
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:04 pm
Lunalee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:17 pm But that makes it easier for the Witches to soup kill 'cause it narrows down heavily and they have access to the identity to night killed players as long as Necro is alive.
yeah, I would recommend no role claims by anyone ever. That soup thing could get messy quick.
Nah, nah. Every other person just lie about your roleclaim.
That might be good and all until an out-of-the-loop townie hops in and angrily counter-claims the fake role claim

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm
by novaselinenever
Did someone actually paid any attention to the kind of claim I suggested? I'm talking about a loophole to counter the no reveal at death on lynches.

Since this is a majority lynch setup, we decide when someone gets lynched by hammering. I suggested that that someone claims just before getting hammered, not as a plea to avoid the lynch but as giving info to the town.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm
by novaselinenever
I also raised the cons of such a strategy and I don't think it's viable with janitored night kills and narrowing the soup kill for them witches.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:20 pm
by Lunalee
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm Did someone actually paid any attention to the kind of claim I suggested? I'm talking about a loophole to counter the no reveal at death on lynches.

Since this is a majority lynch setup, we decide when someone gets lynched by hammering. I suggested that that someone claims just before getting hammered, not as a plea to avoid the lynch but as giving info to the town.
:srsnod: I get you nova. I'll be sure to claim if you all decide to lynch me.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:26 pm
by novaselinenever
Lunalee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:20 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm Did someone actually paid any attention to the kind of claim I suggested? I'm talking about a loophole to counter the no reveal at death on lynches.

Since this is a majority lynch setup, we decide when someone gets lynched by hammering. I suggested that that someone claims just before getting hammered, not as a plea to avoid the lynch but as giving info to the town.
:srsnod: I get you nova. I'll be sure to claim if you all decide to lynch me.
Do you mean when? :grin:

Also lol my conclusion was that it's not a really good strategy after all

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:27 pm
by Epignosis
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm I also raised the cons of such a strategy and I don't think it's viable with janitored night kills and narrowing the soup kill for them witches.
Why do you keep bringing this up? It's a shitty idea for reasons you acknowledge.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:37 pm
by novaselinenever
Epignosis wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:27 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm I also raised the cons of such a strategy and I don't think it's viable with janitored night kills and narrowing the soup kill for them witches.
Why do you keep bringing this up? It's a shitty idea for reasons you acknowledge.
I don't.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:38 pm
by novaselinenever
Who hurt you?

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:41 pm
by Epignosis
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:38 pm Who hurt you?
Jacob DeGrom.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:44 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:41 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:38 pm Who hurt you?
Jacob DeGrom.
Is this like an old person reference?
Spoiler: show
Nah, it's just a sportsball reference.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:53 pm
by Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:41 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:38 pm Who hurt you?
Jacob DeGrom.
Is this like an old person reference?
Spoiler: show
Nah, it's just a sportsball reference.
Baseball, yeah. Cost me money.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:55 pm
by Epignosis
I suspect juliets. She looks like she did when I hosted her in Addams Family.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:56 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I submit to the class a collection of gifs that I didn't get the opportunity to post in previous games or else I forgot.

If I was accused of being mafia in BSG by someone who I thought was town
Spoiler: show
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If Speedchuck had self voted in Adams Family
Spoiler: show
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When DDL and Leetic fought about Epi's alignment in Flags
Spoiler: show
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Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:58 pm
by novaselinenever
Epignosis wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:55 pm I suspect juliets. She looks like she did when I hosted her in Addams Family.
How's that?

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:59 pm
by novaselinenever
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:56 pm I submit to the class a collection of gifs that I didn't get the opportunity to post in previous games or else I forgot.

If I was accused of being mafia in BSG by someone who I thought was town
Spoiler: show
Image


If Speedchuck had self voted in Adams Family
Spoiler: show
Image


When DDL and Leetic fought about Epi's alignment in Flags
Spoiler: show
Image
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Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:59 pm
by novaselinenever
I'll give you the +

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:59 pm
by Epignosis
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:55 pm I suspect juliets. She looks like she did when I hosted her in Addams Family.
How's that?
She looks nervous. She's uncomfortable when bad. Her entrance here looks like more of that.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:00 am
by Jackofhearts2005
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:59 pm I'll give you the +
Well the ones I used in context were better, probably.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:02 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Let's just lynch the first two players to vote for me again.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:04 am
by sprityo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:33 pm
sprityo wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm also jack, nice FATE avatar
Thank you. I'm trying to strongarm Speedchuck into watching it.
ive never seen it, i just recently played FATE GO

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:07 am
by sprityo
i wouldve said that you're technically safe if only one person claims a role, but mafia has unlimited soup kills so nvm.

if they only had one then we could have more leeway in the role claim department

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:08 am
by Jackofhearts2005
sprityo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:04 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:33 pm
sprityo wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:19 pm also jack, nice FATE avatar
Thank you. I'm trying to strongarm Speedchuck into watching it.
ive never seen it, i just recently played FATE GO
I deleted my account cause GO was too grindy but now I'm regretting it because I hear the story gets better later on. I can't bring myself to start over because I had Gil, HS Emiya, HercZerker and Joan and the chance of getting them back without massive grinding is slim.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:17 am
by MacDougall
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:40 pm I hope Mac is a witch this game.
Sadly I am not. Fortunately neither are you.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:42 am
by Neverwhere
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:52 pm Haven't played with Muriel and Neverwhere before? Are they old school?
Been here a number of years, I just found I was too busy to commit to games. 😊

So I'm coming in rusty as heck and not fully sure I understand how this game operates, but I learn by doing.

I stopped reading thread to reply to this so sorry if the answer is further down, but have you got Lynch times yet? Trying to coordinate with the European time difference.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:43 am
by Neverwhere
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:52 pm Haven't played with Muriel and Neverwhere before? Are they old school?
Been here a number of years, I just found I was too busy to commit to games. 😊

So I'm coming in rusty as heck and not fully sure I understand how this game operates, but I learn by doing.

I stopped reading thread to reply to this so sorry if the answer is further down, but have you got Lynch times yet? Trying to coordinate with the European time difference.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:31 am
by Spacedaisy
I like the look of nova and Epi.

I am willing to entertain Epi’s suspicion of Juliets.

I don’t like the look of Luna. Her response to nova Is no good imo.

Also, haven’t read the whole outline yet, bummed to hear we don’t get lynch flips. I’ll go read the outline now. :P

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:07 am
by Spacedaisy
I’m going to channel my inner aspen and ask some questions...

Does Brick get to choose from any player in case of a tie or no lynch or is he/she limited by to the players involved in the tie/no lynch? This Q to Speedchuck.

So we will not be able to tel the difference between an Axton kill and a witch kill is what I’m getting? This Q to speedchuck.

Is it worthwhile to try and find a way for us to given Lilith an idea who to target at night? Or is it possible to do so without role claiming or making oneself a target for witches? Q to the group.

So we’ll know when a martyr save happens... k. But Roland has no info to base the suicide decision upon. How can we use this? Just hope aroland has a good gut? Q to the group.

How does it help is Salvador know sthe role of the player they killed if Salvador is also dead from suicide...? Q to the group.

Maya, not a question a statement... we need to get Maya to end game.

Ah, ah! Maybe we can use the clown for Lilith! What if we decide as a group during the day who the clown should target at night with their pie? It won’t matter to the clown, the pies do nothing ilunless they hit a couple specific people, and if Lilith knows who is going to get hit by pies she can always target someone who is getting targeted and get info on how many witches we’ve got left. At least someone would be working with solid info then. Q to group.

Thought on nisha, Mordecai and Lilith be very careful about giving away your info in thread. Baddies are going to be watching for it.

Handsome Jack... hm. q to speedchuck, is double targeting allowed in this setup? Because if so, this is a potent role.

Wilhelm could make fake role claims a lot harder. No q, just thinking out loud.

Ooo we get info from failed soup kills! I like that, nicely done Speedchuck.

“For the purposes of this game, you may use the Borderlands role or typical tinyhunt role to declare targets.” - I have no idea what any of that means, can someone please explain?

New-U, OH! I see thegood it does to get info when you die now! And my double targeting question is answered too. Disregard those.

Death curse: once per game for each wotch or for the wotch team as a whole? Q to speedchuck.

Do dead witches continue to have btscwoth living witches? This will matter for those that go into Angel chat... q to speedchuck.

Final thought, Butt Stallion is a powerful thing that could really hurt us if we accidentally give it to a witch.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:08 am
by juliets
Epignosis wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:59 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:55 pm I suspect juliets. She looks like she did when I hosted her in Addams Family.
How's that?
She looks nervous. She's uncomfortable when bad. Her entrance here looks like more of that.
I'm not in the least uncomfortable, and wasn't when I entered the channel.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:09 am
by Spacedaisy
That was supposed to be my inner aapje not aspen lol

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:12 am
by Spacedaisy
Oh I thought of a flaw in the idea of directing the clown’s target for Lilith, but I’m not sure it makes enough of a difference to outweigh the benefit. If we direct the clown’s target by public thread, and Lilith uses it then it will be obvious which target is Lilith’s andwhich is Mordecai’s. Is this a big enough drawback to make it a bad plan? Input please.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:14 am
by juliets
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm Did someone actually paid any attention to the kind of claim I suggested? I'm talking about a loophole to counter the no reveal at death on lynches.

Since this is a majority lynch setup, we decide when someone gets lynched by hammering. I suggested that that someone claims just before getting hammered, not as a plea to avoid the lynch but as giving info to the town.
I think I've only played one game where there was a hammer. I think your idea is good but how would we know we are about to get hammered? Would someone say "I'm going to hammer now so please disclose your role"?

linki

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:14 am
by Spacedaisy
Ok I’m going back to sleep, just one last question.

What’s the deal with these poll options?

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:15 am
by juliets
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:26 pm
Lunalee wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:20 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:13 pm Did someone actually paid any attention to the kind of claim I suggested? I'm talking about a loophole to counter the no reveal at death on lynches.

Since this is a majority lynch setup, we decide when someone gets lynched by hammering. I suggested that that someone claims just before getting hammered, not as a plea to avoid the lynch but as giving info to the town.
:srsnod: I get you nova. I'll be sure to claim if you all decide to lynch me.
Do you mean when? :grin:

Also lol my conclusion was that it's not a really good strategy after all
Oh ok, so nvm.

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:15 am
by Spacedaisy
Role claims are a bad idea, bad bad bad. Don’t do it. Haveweestanloshed that yet?

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:15 am
by Spacedaisy
*Have we established

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:18 am
by Spacedaisy
Omg... so many typos!!!

Re: Vault Hunt [Day 0]

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:19 am
by juliets
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:12 pm
juliets wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:10 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:06 pm
juliets wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:05 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:43 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:14 pm The no reveals on deaths is going to be tough to navigate around.
The trick is to trick wolves into lolcatting.

Also, it's a good thing Speedchuck isn't in this game cause he's always mafia but not always in the mafia, if you know what I mean.
Teach me the art of lolcatting :noble:
What does it even mean?
Lolcatting is when mafia decides it will be better to fuck around/taunt the town/post lolcats than try to not get lynched.
Oh ok - thanks Jack! Kinda like Mac did in A World Asunder at the end (tho maybe he didn't taunt town).

lots o linki
Juliets what do you think of everyone's entrance so far?

linki - when did this game happen? I don't remember it :llama:
Lol nova, I did that in the last game at your request and people called me bad for it so I'm not real keen on doing it again.

A World Asunder was Long Con's map game. It happened back in the Dec/Jan time frame.