The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:02 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:49 am It's likely Kyle is scum. No hard counters were put in place. No one even tried to deviate from the claims. Kyle's nonchalant attitude about it.

I'm glad we figured out the game already.
please explain your thought process here?

not everyone has role claimed or even posted since my mason claim, so first of all you're jumping the gun on this

secondly, in order for me to be mafia turnip head would need to be lying, and the other mason would also need to be lying. that would be too many liars to be a mafia team in this setup.

As far as I read, masons can't reveal themselves to each other purposefully in BTSC. What does your claim do for you?

Also no I dont want to. Your teammate is probably Marmot Senpai.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:16 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:03 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:00 pm I'm saying this from experience, from playing this style of game twice before, things go much smoother if everyone claims asap.
In what way does it make finding the scum easier?

process of elimination, my dude

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:18 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:02 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:49 am It's likely Kyle is scum. No hard counters were put in place. No one even tried to deviate from the claims. Kyle's nonchalant attitude about it.

I'm glad we figured out the game already.
please explain your thought process here?

not everyone has role claimed or even posted since my mason claim, so first of all you're jumping the gun on this

secondly, in order for me to be mafia turnip head would need to be lying, and the other mason would also need to be lying. that would be too many liars to be a mafia team in this setup.
As far as I read, masons can't reveal themselves to each other purposefully in BTSC. What does your claim do for you?

Also no I dont want to. Your teammate is probably Marmot Senpai.

it doesn't matter what it does for me personally, what matters is what it does for the game.

you're smarter than this, wilgy. do you legitimately think me being mafia makes sense?

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:25 pm**

I'll clarify, there's 8 players. 2 mafia, and (up to) 5 players which can be cleared via role claims. I guess in this situation it's just 4 since apparently TH's cop read was on me and not a vanilla.

the absolute best move is for every civ to roleclaim, it eliminates half the puzzle and it forces the mafia out into the open or it forces them to fake claim, either way it simplifies things significantly, and gives us something to talk about.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:25 pm**

so im gonna again kindly request that all players claim asap, especially the other mason and any remaining vanilla civs that haven't claimed yet.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:05 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:25 pm so im gonna again kindly request that all players claim asap, especially the other mason and any remaining vanilla civs that haven't claimed yet.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:36 pm**

Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh.

[mention]Marmot[/mention]

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:09 pm**

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]insertnamehere[/mention]
[mention]sprityo[/mention]

more posts pls. you're at 3/2 respectively

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:30 pm**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:36 pm Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. Marmot

its actually the worst role to fake claim

i assume he plans to have his claim validated at some point though?? otherwise there's problems

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:47 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:30 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:36 pm Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. Marmot
its actually the worst role to fake claim

i assume he plans to have his claim validated at some point though?? otherwise there's problems

I think Marmot should get his claim validated pronto so I can take my tinfoil off

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:15 pm**

Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:16 pm**

I’ll claim in a little bit.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:16 pm**

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:15 pm Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

Agreed, but not a difficult stance to take.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:17 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:51 pm I'll save the host her breath and tell you all now, I am the mayor.

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

This vote will be moved if/when the host validates his claim.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:19 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:16 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:15 pm Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.
Agreed, but not a difficult stance to take.

You're not wrong, but for me having a semi-solid town read on page 2 of a thread is a major accomplishment. I feel like I should get like a fancy ribbon or something.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:26 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:16 pm I’ll claim in a little bit.

It's been 3,600,000 milliseconds

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:38 pm**

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:15 pm Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

they is the first time anyone has said that about me in any context, i would love a puppy sticker.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:01 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:13 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:45 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.
hey kyle this sounds like fearmongering

after all, you have no idea whether dunya would or would not include all them power roles nor have you taken an actual stance on the issue. i don't know why this post exists.

wow quin you've done it again
are you high?

every game I've played in this style was solved because of claim mechanics, speculating on what is and isn't likely is step one.

ok but you weren't speculating. you threw a "someone might be lying" with 0 follow up. how does that solve the game?

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:02 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:52 pm I'm going to ask the same question that got me mislynched in Friends mafia: how do you all approach Day 1s? Please provide examples related to strategy, game theory, meta, and other supplementary information when appropriate. (2 to 4 pages, MLA heading and Works Cited page, double spaced, Times New Roman 12 point font, 1-inch margins)

sometimes i use comic sans but im feeling tahoma today

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:23 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:13 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:45 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.
hey kyle this sounds like fearmongering

after all, you have no idea whether dunya would or would not include all them power roles nor have you taken an actual stance on the issue. i don't know why this post exists.

wow quin you've done it again
are you high?

every game I've played in this style was solved because of claim mechanics, speculating on what is and isn't likely is step one.
ok but you weren't speculating. you threw a "someone might be lying" with 0 follow up. how does that solve the game?

does it solve the game to ignore the possibility that someone might be fake claiming? from my experience, (which is the same as dunya's experience) it's uncommon for all of the civ roles to get used. the first game we played over there had 2 masons and a mayor, second one had I think a cop and a solo mason. those games also had more players than this one does.

of course there's also possibly cultural differences, they probably had more limited town roles over there cus claim meta is more common on their site, it's possible dunya would include all possible roles because she's kept in account the fact that people are more hesitant to claim here.

the reason there's been no follow up yet is cus im waiting for the rest of the claims to happen. I have a theory but i can't work with it until the other mason claims.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:32 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:23 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:01 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:13 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:45 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.
hey kyle this sounds like fearmongering

after all, you have no idea whether dunya would or would not include all them power roles nor have you taken an actual stance on the issue. i don't know why this post exists.

wow quin you've done it again
are you high?

every game I've played in this style was solved because of claim mechanics, speculating on what is and isn't likely is step one.
ok but you weren't speculating. you threw a "someone might be lying" with 0 follow up. how does that solve the game?
does it solve the game to ignore the possibility that someone might be fake claiming? from my experience, (which is the same as dunya's experience) it's uncommon for all of the civ roles to get used. the first game we played over there had 2 masons and a mayor, second one had I think a cop and a solo mason. those games also had more players than this one does.

of course there's also possibly cultural differences, they probably had more limited town roles over there cus claim meta is more common on their site, it's possible dunya would include all possible roles because she's kept in account the fact that people are more hesitant to claim here.

the reason there's been no follow up yet is cus im waiting for the rest of the claims to happen. I have a theory but i can't work with it until the other mason claims.

i'm not saying to ignore it. but you weren't doing that, nor did it appear you were you pursuing it. my gripe lies therein.

an acceptable explanation.

[VOTE: vote marmot] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:35 pm**

i'm vanilla town. looking forward to seeing your theory.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:58 pm**

Okay Quin's bad lol

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:19 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:02 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:49 am It's likely Kyle is scum. No hard counters were put in place. No one even tried to deviate from the claims. Kyle's nonchalant attitude about it.

I'm glad we figured out the game already.
please explain your thought process here?

not everyone has role claimed or even posted since my mason claim, so first of all you're jumping the gun on this

secondly, in order for me to be mafia turnip head would need to be lying, and the other mason would also need to be lying. that would be too many liars to be a mafia team in this setup.
As far as I read, masons can't reveal themselves to each other purposefully in BTSC. What does your claim do for you?

Also no I dont want to. Your teammate is probably Marmot Senpai.
it doesn't matter what it does for me personally, what matters is what it does for the game.

you're smarter than this, wilgy. do you legitimately think me being mafia makes sense?

Yes. Challenging my intellect is actually more indicative of you being scum as well. Why challenge my intellect when there's plenty of other things you can challenge my claim with.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:21 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:25 pm I'll clarify, there's 8 players. 2 mafia, and (up to) 5 players which can be cleared via role claims. I guess in this situation it's just 4 since apparently TH's cop read was on me and not a vanilla.

the absolute best move is for every civ to roleclaim, it eliminates half the puzzle and it forces the mafia out into the open or it forces them to fake claim, either way it simplifies things significantly, and gives us something to talk about.

I disagree. This prevents vanilla players from utilizing their ability of speech to the fullest. Why would you want to prevent a civilian from lying? That's the most useful tool to a vanilla.

Scumboi Kyle.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:23 pm**

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:15 pm Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

Why because all he's discussed is role mechanics? That doesn't solve anything.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:25 pm**

I think that likely team of scum at this point is either Marmot Kyle or INH Kyle. As the votes are standing right now it's likely to be INH Kyle.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:44 pm**

I must have forgot to mention that I'm the cop and got a green peek on my boi kylemii

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:09 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:19 pmYes. Challenging my intellect is actually more indicative of you being scum as well. Why challenge my intellect when there's plenty of other things you can challenge my claim with.

that makes zero sense. Iim not challenging your intellect.

unless you think this game has 3 mafia somehow I'm confirmed town the moment the second mason claims mason. do you have an argument against that?

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:15 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:21 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:25 pm I'll clarify, there's 8 players. 2 mafia, and (up to) 5 players which can be cleared via role claims. I guess in this situation it's just 4 since apparently TH's cop read was on me and not a vanilla.

the absolute best move is for every civ to roleclaim, it eliminates half the puzzle and it forces the mafia out into the open or it forces them to fake claim, either way it simplifies things significantly, and gives us something to talk about.
I disagree. This prevents vanilla players from utilizing their ability of speech to the fullest. Why would you want to prevent a civilian from lying? That's the most useful tool to a vanilla.

Scumboi Kyle.

this isn't a standard mafia game wilgy. this is one phase mafia. vanilla roles don't exist for the purpose of protecting power roles, every roles is of equal value since every mislynch has the same outcome

this game is meant by design to be half solved by roleclaims, to force the mafia to hide amongst the vanilla civ claims or be more aggressive and counterclaim the real power roles.

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:20 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:23 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:15 pm Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.
Why because all he's discussed is role mechanics? That doesn't solve anything.

solving the game *is* mechanics.

we're meant to create a peo using roles and claims to force the mafia out into the open. do you disagree with that?

Posted: **Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:51 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:25 pm I think that likely team of scum at this point is either Marmot Kyle or INH Kyle. As the votes are standing right now it's likely to be INH Kyle.

hey woogers, is Turnip good then?

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:48 am**

Ye ye what’s good yo? I’m off my 24 hour shift and back to do some work

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:49 am**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:16 am

This is 100% accurate. I believe TH’s claim

No one hasn’t counter claimed him as far as page one goes so we’re off to a good start

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:50 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:35 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.
Since you're the only person to claim mason, it must be you -_-

Oh right, I’m also a mason.

Does that debunk your theory yet?

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:54 am**

DrWilgy is being more aggressive than I can ever remember him playing. He usually posts that he’s most definitely a doctor and such.

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine your hard push on Kyle has me suspish

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:34 am**

okay so now that we now have all possible roles accounted for

any counterclaims? is everyone else outside of TH, me, marmot, and sprityo comfortable with the insinuation that you're vanilla town?

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:38 am**

well I guess we're not completely done with the initial shit?

marmot if you could plz use ur mayor powers when you can? colin was also building up to a claim too and im interested in hearing it

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:49 am**

turnip head's claim was extremely early, i think that's the main thing going for it. it'd be a huge gamble to claim that early and yeah sure that kind of gamble is the kind of thing that wins this game-type for mafias, but it would be an extremely bold move bordering on reckless, risking a counterclaim.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:04 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:20 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:35 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.
Since you're the only person to claim mason, it must be you -_-
I meant to quote this post actually, marmot explain ur shit

It was flung from the top of a sarcastic tree.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:05 am**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:52 pm I'm going to ask the same question that got me mislynched in Friends mafia: how do you all approach Day 1s? Please provide examples related to strategy, game theory, meta, and other supplementary information when appropriate. (2 to 4 pages, MLA heading and Works Cited page, double spaced, Times New Roman 12 point font, 1-inch margins)

I like to banter a bit, then switch gears as the deadline approaches.

How about you?

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:07 am**

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:36 pm Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. @Marmot

That's because it is my fake role my dude.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:37 am**

well done, guys! everyone met the minimum post count. Let's keep it up! Kylemii is currently ahead in post count to take the special contributor banner too.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:51 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:37 am well done, guys! everyone met the minimum post count. Let's keep it up! Kylemii is currently ahead in post count to take the special contributor banner too.

You cannot tempt me woman!!!!!

I will post as slow as I want!

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:03 am**

Quin and Wilgers are definitely our baddos

Santa Claus told me so in a dream last night, and I believe him.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:13 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:51 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:37 am well done, guys! everyone met the minimum post count. Let's keep it up! Kylemii is currently ahead in post count to take the special contributor banner too.
You cannot tempt me woman!!!!!

I will post as slow as I want!

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:46 am**

Iiiiiiiiiiii wiillllllll allllllllllllso poooooooooost as sssssssssloooooooowlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy as i waaant

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:40 am**

POS cannot help us this game, we most vote the scummiest person in the world.

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:58 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:07 am
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:36 pm Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. @Marmot
That's because it is my fake role my dude.

does that mean you lied? why?

Posted: **Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:02 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:40 am POS cannot help us this game, we most vote the scummiest person in the world.

who is that?

The Syndicate

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