[Game Over] Three-Day Day 1 Mafia

[DrWilgy]

It's likely Kyle is scum. No hard counters were put in place. No one even tried to deviate from the claims. Kyle's nonchalant attitude about it.

I'm glad we figured out the game already.

please explain your thought process here?

not everyone has role claimed or even posted since my mason claim, so first of all you're jumping the gun on this

secondly, in order for me to be mafia turnip head would need to be lying, and the other mason would also need to be lying. that would be too many liars to be a mafia team in this setup.

As far as I read, masons can't reveal themselves to each other purposefully in BTSC. What does your claim do for you?

Also no I dont want to. Your teammate is probably Marmot Senpai.

[Kylemii]

I'm saying this from experience, from playing this style of game twice before, things go much smoother if everyone claims asap.

In what way does it make finding the scum easier?

process of elimination, my dude

[Kylemii]

It's likely Kyle is scum. No hard counters were put in place. No one even tried to deviate from the claims. Kyle's nonchalant attitude about it.

I'm glad we figured out the game already.

please explain your thought process here?

not everyone has role claimed or even posted since my mason claim, so first of all you're jumping the gun on this

secondly, in order for me to be mafia turnip head would need to be lying, and the other mason would also need to be lying. that would be too many liars to be a mafia team in this setup.

As far as I read, masons can't reveal themselves to each other purposefully in BTSC. What does your claim do for you?

Also no I dont want to. Your teammate is probably Marmot Senpai.

it doesn't matter what it does for me personally, what matters is what it does for the game.

you're smarter than this, wilgy. do you legitimately think me being mafia makes sense?

[Kylemii]

I'll clarify, there's 8 players. 2 mafia, and (up to) 5 players which can be cleared via role claims. I guess in this situation it's just 4 since apparently TH's cop read was on me and not a vanilla.

the absolute best move is for every civ to roleclaim, it eliminates half the puzzle and it forces the mafia out into the open or it forces them to fake claim, either way it simplifies things significantly, and gives us something to talk about.

[Kylemii]

so im gonna again kindly request that all players claim asap, especially the other mason and any remaining vanilla civs that haven't claimed yet.

[Turnip Head]

so im gonna again kindly request that all players claim asap, especially the other mason and any remaining vanilla civs that haven't claimed yet.

[Turnip Head]

Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. [mention]Marmot[/mention]

[dunya]

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]
[mention]insertnamehere[/mention]
[mention]sprityo[/mention]

more posts pls. you're at 3/2 respectively

[Kylemii]

Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. Marmot

its actually the worst role to fake claim

i assume he plans to have his claim validated at some point though?? otherwise there's problems

[Turnip Head]

Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. Marmot

its actually the worst role to fake claim

i assume he plans to have his claim validated at some point though?? otherwise there's problems

I think Marmot should get his claim validated pronto so I can take my tinfoil off

[insertnamehere]

Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

[ColinIsCool]

I’ll claim in a little bit.

[ColinIsCool]

Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

Agreed, but not a difficult stance to take.

[insertnamehere]

I'll save the host her breath and tell you all now, I am the mayor.

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

This vote will be moved if/when the host validates his claim.

[insertnamehere]

Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

Agreed, but not a difficult stance to take.

You're not wrong, but for me having a semi-solid town read on page 2 of a thread is a major accomplishment. I feel like I should get like a fancy ribbon or something.

[Turnip Head]

I’ll claim in a little bit.

It's been 3,600,000 milliseconds

[Kylemii]

Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

they is the first time anyone has said that about me in any context, i would love a puppy sticker.

[Quin]

i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.

hey kyle this sounds like fearmongering

after all, you have no idea whether dunya would or would not include all them power roles nor have you taken an actual stance on the issue. i don't know why this post exists.

wow quin you've done it again

are you high?

every game I've played in this style was solved because of claim mechanics, speculating on what is and isn't likely is step one.

ok but you weren't speculating. you threw a "someone might be lying" with 0 follow up. how does that solve the game?

[Quin]

I'm going to ask the same question that got me mislynched in Friends mafia: how do you all approach Day 1s? Please provide examples related to strategy, game theory, meta, and other supplementary information when appropriate. (2 to 4 pages, MLA heading and Works Cited page, double spaced, Times New Roman 12 point font, 1-inch margins)

sometimes i use comic sans but im feeling tahoma today

[Kylemii]

i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.

hey kyle this sounds like fearmongering

after all, you have no idea whether dunya would or would not include all them power roles nor have you taken an actual stance on the issue. i don't know why this post exists.

wow quin you've done it again

are you high?

every game I've played in this style was solved because of claim mechanics, speculating on what is and isn't likely is step one.

ok but you weren't speculating. you threw a "someone might be lying" with 0 follow up. how does that solve the game?

does it solve the game to ignore the possibility that someone might be fake claiming? from my experience, (which is the same as dunya's experience) it's uncommon for all of the civ roles to get used. the first game we played over there had 2 masons and a mayor, second one had I think a cop and a solo mason. those games also had more players than this one does.

of course there's also possibly cultural differences, they probably had more limited town roles over there cus claim meta is more common on their site, it's possible dunya would include all possible roles because she's kept in account the fact that people are more hesitant to claim here.

the reason there's been no follow up yet is cus im waiting for the rest of the claims to happen. I have a theory but i can't work with it until the other mason claims.

[Quin]

i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.

hey kyle this sounds like fearmongering

after all, you have no idea whether dunya would or would not include all them power roles nor have you taken an actual stance on the issue. i don't know why this post exists.

wow quin you've done it again

are you high?

every game I've played in this style was solved because of claim mechanics, speculating on what is and isn't likely is step one.

ok but you weren't speculating. you threw a "someone might be lying" with 0 follow up. how does that solve the game?

does it solve the game to ignore the possibility that someone might be fake claiming? from my experience, (which is the same as dunya's experience) it's uncommon for all of the civ roles to get used. the first game we played over there had 2 masons and a mayor, second one had I think a cop and a solo mason. those games also had more players than this one does.

of course there's also possibly cultural differences, they probably had more limited town roles over there cus claim meta is more common on their site, it's possible dunya would include all possible roles because she's kept in account the fact that people are more hesitant to claim here.

the reason there's been no follow up yet is cus im waiting for the rest of the claims to happen. I have a theory but i can't work with it until the other mason claims.

i'm not saying to ignore it. but you weren't doing that, nor did it appear you were you pursuing it. my gripe lies therein.

an acceptable explanation.

[VOTE: vote marmot] aubergine

[Quin]

i'm vanilla town. looking forward to seeing your theory.

[Turnip Head]

Okay Quin's bad lol

[DrWilgy]

It's likely Kyle is scum. No hard counters were put in place. No one even tried to deviate from the claims. Kyle's nonchalant attitude about it.

I'm glad we figured out the game already.

please explain your thought process here?

not everyone has role claimed or even posted since my mason claim, so first of all you're jumping the gun on this

secondly, in order for me to be mafia turnip head would need to be lying, and the other mason would also need to be lying. that would be too many liars to be a mafia team in this setup.

As far as I read, masons can't reveal themselves to each other purposefully in BTSC. What does your claim do for you?

Also no I dont want to. Your teammate is probably Marmot Senpai.

it doesn't matter what it does for me personally, what matters is what it does for the game.

you're smarter than this, wilgy. do you legitimately think me being mafia makes sense?

Yes. Challenging my intellect is actually more indicative of you being scum as well. Why challenge my intellect when there's plenty of other things you can challenge my claim with.

[DrWilgy]

I'll clarify, there's 8 players. 2 mafia, and (up to) 5 players which can be cleared via role claims. I guess in this situation it's just 4 since apparently TH's cop read was on me and not a vanilla.

the absolute best move is for every civ to roleclaim, it eliminates half the puzzle and it forces the mafia out into the open or it forces them to fake claim, either way it simplifies things significantly, and gives us something to talk about.

I disagree. This prevents vanilla players from utilizing their ability of speech to the fullest. Why would you want to prevent a civilian from lying? That's the most useful tool to a vanilla.

Scumboi Kyle.

[DrWilgy]

Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

Why because all he's discussed is role mechanics? That doesn't solve anything.

[DrWilgy]

I think that likely team of scum at this point is either Marmot Kyle or INH Kyle. As the votes are standing right now it's likely to be INH Kyle.

[Turnip Head]

I must have forgot to mention that I'm the cop and got a green peek on my boi kylemii

[Kylemii]

Yes. Challenging my intellect is actually more indicative of you being scum as well. Why challenge my intellect when there's plenty of other things you can challenge my claim with.

that makes zero sense. Iim not challenging your intellect.

unless you think this game has 3 mafia somehow I'm confirmed town the moment the second mason claims mason. do you have an argument against that?

[Kylemii]

I'll clarify, there's 8 players. 2 mafia, and (up to) 5 players which can be cleared via role claims. I guess in this situation it's just 4 since apparently TH's cop read was on me and not a vanilla.

the absolute best move is for every civ to roleclaim, it eliminates half the puzzle and it forces the mafia out into the open or it forces them to fake claim, either way it simplifies things significantly, and gives us something to talk about.

I disagree. This prevents vanilla players from utilizing their ability of speech to the fullest. Why would you want to prevent a civilian from lying? That's the most useful tool to a vanilla.

Scumboi Kyle.

this isn't a standard mafia game wilgy. this is one phase mafia. vanilla roles don't exist for the purpose of protecting power roles, every roles is of equal value since every mislynch has the same outcome

this game is meant by design to be half solved by roleclaims, to force the mafia to hide amongst the vanilla civ claims or be more aggressive and counterclaim the real power roles.

[Kylemii]

Kyle's making the most sense of the people in the thread, and at this point I'd be quite disappointed if he was lynched. He gets a puppy sticker.

Why because all he's discussed is role mechanics? That doesn't solve anything.

solving the game *is* mechanics.

we're meant to create a peo using roles and claims to force the mafia out into the open. do you disagree with that?

[Quin]

I think that likely team of scum at this point is either Marmot Kyle or INH Kyle. As the votes are standing right now it's likely to be INH Kyle.

hey woogers, is Turnip good then?

[sprityo]

Ye ye what’s good yo? I’m off my 24 hour shift and back to do some work

[sprityo]

This is 100% accurate. I believe TH’s claim

No one hasn’t counter claimed him as far as page one goes so we’re off to a good start

[sprityo]

i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.

Since you're the only person to claim mason, it must be you -_-

Oh right, I’m also a mason.

Does that debunk your theory yet?

[sprityo]

DrWilgy is being more aggressive than I can ever remember him playing. He usually posts that he’s most definitely a doctor and such.

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine your hard push on Kyle has me suspish

[Kylemii]

okay so now that we now have all possible roles accounted for

any counterclaims? is everyone else outside of TH, me, marmot, and sprityo comfortable with the insinuation that you're vanilla town?

[Kylemii]

well I guess we're not completely done with the initial shit?

marmot if you could plz use ur mayor powers when you can? colin was also building up to a claim too and im interested in hearing it

[Kylemii]

turnip head's claim was extremely early, i think that's the main thing going for it. it'd be a huge gamble to claim that early and yeah sure that kind of gamble is the kind of thing that wins this game-type for mafias, but it would be an extremely bold move bordering on reckless, risking a counterclaim.

[Marmot]

i know most or possibly all of you are kidding but i love starting the game with so much validation

i am a mason and unless dunya decided to put every possible power role into this game, i think someone's been lying about their shit already.

Since you're the only person to claim mason, it must be you -_-

I meant to quote this post actually, marmot explain ur shit

It was flung from the top of a sarcastic tree.

[Marmot]

I'm going to ask the same question that got me mislynched in Friends mafia: how do you all approach Day 1s? Please provide examples related to strategy, game theory, meta, and other supplementary information when appropriate. (2 to 4 pages, MLA heading and Works Cited page, double spaced, Times New Roman 12 point font, 1-inch margins)

I like to banter a bit, then switch gears as the deadline approaches.

How about you?

[Marmot]

Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. @Marmot

That's because it is my fake role my dude.

[dunya]

well done, guys! everyone met the minimum post count. Let's keep it up! Kylemii is currently ahead in post count to take the special contributor banner too.

[sprityo]

well done, guys! everyone met the minimum post count. Let's keep it up! Kylemii is currently ahead in post count to take the special contributor banner too.

You cannot tempt me woman!!!!!

I will post as slow as I want!

[Turnip Head]

Quin and Wilgers are definitely our baddos Santa Claus told me so in a dream last night, and I believe him.

[dunya]

well done, guys! everyone met the minimum post count. Let's keep it up! Kylemii is currently ahead in post count to take the special contributor banner too.

You cannot tempt me woman!!!!!

I will post as slow as I want!

[Turnip Head]

Iiiiiiiiiiii wiillllllll allllllllllllso poooooooooost as sssssssssloooooooowlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy as i waaant

[Marmot]

POS cannot help us this game, we most vote the scummiest person in the world.

[Kylemii]

Mayor's a good role to fake claim tbh. @Marmot

That's because it is my fake role my dude.

does that mean you lied? why?

[Kylemii]

POS cannot help us this game, we most vote the scummiest person in the world.

who is that?