Thoughts on the Ran wagon: they feel to have good thread momentum. Normally I do associate that with town sided play.
My hangup is Ran calling my posts Wolfy. It feels disingenuous. I raised this earlier to no response as well. Almost as if the VCA wasn't good enough in their mind to push on me, they had to add something else and it feels like that addition is VERY empty.
It's the difference between "let's just clean up an afk slot" and "let's clean up an afk slot THAT'S VERY OBVIOUSLY WOLFY IN SPITE OF BEING AFK."
I don't think I'd feel like this had Ran engaged what content was there, but that just hasn't been done.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:31 am
I've withheld a lot of my thoughts so far, but I genuinely dislike the sentiment that only wolves would be trying to hide in this kind of set up, especially before the culling of NPC's. I feel so strongly about this, that I'm extremely confident that anyone who is town would never push that agenda in good faith, and that someone like ran who has put this much effort and thought into the game should have known or at least suspected that's how many towns would play, regardless of whether they are even a player.
Ultimately, wolves would likely use their one player removing ability in such a way: Rank what individuals in the game they fear the most, for whatever reasons, and shoot. But early, they will likely just shoot at who they think are NPC's to avoid hitting a weaker player early and completely losing their ability to remove a huge threat later. It behooves the mafia scout to look into who they may sincerely believe will be a threat later, or someone who is faking a role claim, as someone already has, and see if it's truthful early in the game while there is little pressure. The mafia scout gets to share their findings with their teammates each and every night - the town scout does not have this luxury due to attempting to avoid being outed and removed from the game by the mafia. If the town is able to avoid being found by the mafia scout in the early stages of the game, this is very advantageous for them as it puts them on more even footing with the wolves. It is always in town's best interest to not out themselves early in this game.
Looking at low posters as the best people to vote is a waste of time when most of them will be culled so soon anyway. There is literally no point except to be performative in the hopes that you appear townie.
[VOTE:
Ranmilia] aubergine
If you are wolf, be gone. If you are NPC, you are wolf siding. Be gone.
Lumi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:29 pm
4) Pre-rand I'm pretty sure you were the single player in the playerlist whose motive profile for signing align most closely to my own and I never even remotely considered signing for this as a player, so yeah.
this also applies to me but i am a player nonetheless
i don’t agree with the strategy that villagers should just coast until the NPCs die
then you give wolves chances to eliminate real players at night (and even to try to take over the thread during the day)
and by the time the NPCs are gone you can be down villagers that wolves have managed to kill at night without eliminating wolfy real players from the PoE because you’re twiddling your thumbs instead of trying to lunch wolves
i feel like if every villager got aggressive today and started solving with the help of the town siding NPCs we could have started to box wolves in pretty well
just not sure what the upside of doing nothing is realistically
Lumi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:29 pm
4) Pre-rand I'm pretty sure you were the single player in the playerlist whose motive profile for signing align most closely to my own and I never even remotely considered signing for this as a player, so yeah.
this also applies to me but i am a player nonetheless
While I still chuckle inwardly when I see this posted with my memey vote on nanook, I did actually vote him with his name spelled correctly in a spoiler below that
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Lumi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:29 pm
4) Pre-rand I'm pretty sure you were the single player in the playerlist whose motive profile for signing align most closely to my own and I never even remotely considered signing for this as a player, so yeah.
this also applies to me but i am a player nonetheless
earth shattering revelation
i know right, i was devastated
i’ve been so convinced you would never sign up to this as a player lol
Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:29 pm
I just think you are incapable of having real reads independently of your alignment.
But you‘re probably NPC so whatevs. Enjoy your silly tunnel and pray it isn‘t a reflection because it surely looks like it is.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
One can probably find both just by looking for the biggest noobs at this game.
Or the thinskinned ones idk
Gonna assume Santy is in the game. Don‘t know about Rondo. But if Rondo PC, then town.
Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:52 pm
Wilgy not licking anyone is off the known meta.
Worst case he‘s NPC. But I‘d wager many of those try to appear like they are not.
I‘m comfy just following the votes either of RANMILLA, nutsella or Santygass around for now.
Struggling with lateral encephalitis atm so my posting seems willy wonky probably.
Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:53 pm
Rondo looks NPC-y I‘d rather hit someone who tries to keep heir head down while trying to look like they contribute.
I think Wilgy fits and I‘d rather vote with nutella.
@Vivax Explain your Rondo read and progression to me pkease?
Because when I asked you to vote Rondo you didnt bring up your previously stated townread and instead shielded it on NPC vibes so whatsup with that
Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:29 pm
I just think you are incapable of having real reads independently of your alignment.
But you‘re probably NPC so whatevs. Enjoy your silly tunnel and pray it isn‘t a reflection because it surely looks like it is.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:13 pm
I have lost basically all my WIM after that opening and us almost being at 100 pages and no closer to starting the game. I will try to get some WIM back tomorrow and do something
Welcome to "You got got by Mac!", starring Rondo!
*holds the mic in too close to Rondo's face*
@RondoDimBuckle , how does it feel to get got this bad? Is this worse than the time you invested in MacCoin?
Some of these I'm really shaky on and don't know that well so they might be obviously wrong, and there were some super borderline slots that I wanted to include too, but this is my "not read the game, made purely from *meta-analysis" reads list
* By meta analysis I do not mean player analysis, I just mean analysis one level removed from the actual content of the game, eg. post count trends + players homesites + players frequency of playing FM games
Honorary mention to Santy who just barely missed the cut
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:58 pm
I still think sloonei is bad, and when he’s still here after the great purge of ‘3, you might want to go for him
Detail this to me. Sloonei ISO was not long, so I took a peek. The thing that stands out is there's like 1-3 real posts between almost a full page of shitposting.
I could honestly see it from a sleeping town or wolf. The fact that it's not complete malarkey I think slightly implies the slot is a player.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:38 pm
pyxxy and vivax are both site newbies who played in the anni event, i think they're slightly more likely as newbies but i don't have much of a handle on how interested either would be
I don't care what you call me as long as it rhymes with clown-knighted
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:58 pm
I still think sloonei is bad, and when he’s still here after the great purge of ‘3, you might want to go for him
Detail this to me. Sloonei ISO was not long, so I took a peek. The thing that stands out is there's like 1-3 real posts between almost a full page of shitposting.
I could honestly see it from a sleeping town or wolf. The fact that it's not complete malarkey I think slightly implies the slot is a player.
Scotty said something in the lines of Sloonei Implying t be npc but not claiming it was wolf indicative, but weh. Idt its good to go today
Same read to Ranmillia which I think they are likely npc tbh
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:17 pm
lol, Rans been here but still won't interact with me.
Well, here's an illustration: this post is hella wolfy, because it's not a real thought town have when trying to sort out who is mafia and who isn't. This is shade that comes from a mafia perspective of "we need to get Ran off of me and discredit her, how do we do that, let's find something to make her sound bad like 'not interacting with me'".
What does that mean? Why would that be relevant? How does this come from a town thought process? Does Wilgy think I'm a real player? Does Wilgy think I'm a wolf? Is he putting forward some theory like "not interacting with your scumreads is wolfy"? Why? I've already expressed that the main basis for the read is lack of content.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... vitational - here's a recent game where I found Hellsbells, a wolf, on d1, and cased them. Their response was pretty much identical to what Wilgy is doing: OMGUS and accusations that I wasn't working with them.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:17 pm
lol, Rans been here but still won't interact with me.
Well, here's an illustration: this post is hella wolfy, because it's not a real thought town have when trying to sort out who is mafia and who isn't. This is shade that comes from a mafia perspective of "we need to get Ran off of me and discredit her, how do we do that, let's find something to make her sound bad like 'not interacting with me'".
What does that mean? Why would that be relevant? How does this come from a town thought process? Does Wilgy think I'm a real player? Does Wilgy think I'm a wolf? Is he putting forward some theory like "not interacting with your scumreads is wolfy"? Why? I've already expressed that the main basis for the read is lack of content.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... vitational - here's a recent game where I found Hellsbells, a wolf, on d1, and cased them. Their response was pretty much identical to what Wilgy is doing: OMGUS and accusations that I wasn't working with them.
Wilg point here is 100% valid and I even questioned you yesterday when Wilg first appeared and you didnt interact with them at all even and it pinged me too.
So why you call it wolfy from wilg now I dont like tbh
