Re: Guitar Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:40 pm
SVS can you tell me your other reads other than Long Con? Sorry if you mentioned them already (I am being lazy)
@Justplayingitcool this is a reads post from earlier today.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:06 pmProbably you tbh. I see Halyn is taking some sus but they are relating to me the way town Halyn usually does. jpic and Falcon jumped right in when they arrived, and Roxy is playing an open game, which I associate with her.
You seem a tad more “throwing shit and seeing what sticks” than I usually associate with town you.
Thank youS~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:23 pm@Justplayingitcool this is a reads post from earlier today.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:06 pmProbably you tbh. I see Halyn is taking some sus but they are relating to me the way town Halyn usually does. jpic and Falcon jumped right in when they arrived, and Roxy is playing an open game, which I associate with her.
You seem a tad more “throwing shit and seeing what sticks” than I usually associate with town you.
What makes my head tilt is that you said you have tinfoil, proceed to directly follow falcon with a vote on me, and then here you’re noncommittal with your explanation and even willing to jump off. I’m having trouble finding this more than opportunisticJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:18 pmHonestly there’s nothing more to it other than the timmer and seanzie thing which i know you explained so i just wanted to mildly explore it probably will change my mind and hard tinfoil someone else
nah im just scattyScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:28 pmWhat makes my head tilt is that you said you have tinfoil, proceed to directly follow falcon with a vote on me, and then here you’re noncommittal with your explanation and even willing to jump off. I’m having trouble finding this more than opportunisticJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:18 pmHonestly there’s nothing more to it other than the timmer and seanzie thing which i know you explained so i just wanted to mildly explore it probably will change my mind and hard tinfoil someone else
Devil’s advocate for SVs here that that is how I usually isohunt, so I wouldn’t hold that as a smoking gun.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:53 pmT-T. T-W. W-T. Fine....I don't buy W-W for them. If they are, then I'll applaud politely.
Maybe. Maybe it's a telling thing to be arguing, probably better to think that way in a game like this. And you obviously didn't search for "Timmerman", Miss Read the ISO... I accused him earlier than even the evil guitar comment.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:06 pm“Lie” is extreme, overlooking an OT post was more like it.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:31 amObviously saying my first mention of Timmer being bad was the list... was the lie.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:20 am
I stand corrected; THIS was your first mention of Timmer:
A "jokey" implication he was evil.
Your SECOND post you mentioned Timmer was the list, where you had him as bad, and the third was your vote for him.
Not sure what "outright lies" I'm telling here.
The "evil" guitars thing, meh, I could call that just Day One trashtalk, but seriously, go look at your own ISO.
You still don't have it right.
Open your iso, and search it for “Timmer”. The first time you yourself mentioned him was in the evil guitar post.
This is a silly thing to be arguing.
Like, maybe a silly thing to be arguing, so why is it happening? It's a silly thing altogether, but you made it a thing and then neglected due diligence on my ISO, and Y'KNOW, when I'm searching for clues in an ISO, I READ the posts because context is ESSENTIAL when trying to understand the subtleties of a wolf's deception. Typing in a search term is NOT the way that one looks through ISOs when they're doing detective work, it is how a Wolf looks for a gotcha.
You are that Wolf, and you are caught.
I thought it was kind of a 'generous to the spirit of the game' move by the baddies, and I respected that. But now I've read these alternate perspectives, and maybe they killed a non-player because they like the way the winds are blowing. They like the gamestate as it is. Which could mean quiet Wolves, or it could mean confident Wolves.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:39 pm Idk seanzie kill reads to me that mafia are trying to musdy the waters as much as possible. One one hand it’s good because that’s a potential misyeet gone but the other we have about as much as info as day 1
She thinks I’m the opposite of good, which i guess doesn’t necessarily mean I’m badJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:40 pm SVS can you tell me your other reads other than Long Con? Sorry if you mentioned them already (I am being lazy)
If svs is good, does that do anything to Roxy? Or is Roxy a separate read for you?
That’s just my name in a terrible milwaukee accentJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:30 pmnah im just scattyScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:28 pmWhat makes my head tilt is that you said you have tinfoil, proceed to directly follow falcon with a vote on me, and then here you’re noncommittal with your explanation and even willing to jump off. I’m having trouble finding this more than opportunisticJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:18 pmHonestly there’s nothing more to it other than the timmer and seanzie thing which i know you explained so i just wanted to mildly explore it probably will change my mind and hard tinfoil someone else
This is a legit tinfoil in a traditional sense because I have felt him rather towny in that he’s been so carefree and it could read as a defenseJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
That is the goal, but not the result.
yeah im not really super sold on long con as a baddie because i thought he was slightly townie in day 1. The only minor eyebrow raise was his list in day 1 having me as a scum read when I had 0 posts at the time. His new list today is a bit better thoughScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:50 pmThis is a legit tinfoil in a traditional sense because I have felt him rather towny in that he’s been so carefree and it could read as a defenseJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
On the flip side, I’m not traditional (except that I *do* hold the door for a lady). I think I would be more inclined to obstruct or bus a teammate
I don’t usually do comparative teammate analysis but the playerlist is small enough that it might be useful.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:37 pm Anyway, one of the things that I like to do is build potential teams and i know i know it's not a great idea without a scum flip, but humour me:
From my perspective, I feel like the potential words atm are Scotty/Long Con vs SVS or X/X. I feel like X is either Roxy or Hal. Don't really have a read on either. Thought it was weird for roxy to show up out of the blue to say the timmer vote was bad like a few minutes before the phase ended without there being much chance to change the course. but eh, don't hard to find any mafia intent in that really as probably best for them to stay quiet
hmm this helpfulScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:02 pmI don’t usually do comparative teammate analysis but the playerlist is small enough that it might be useful.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:37 pm Anyway, one of the things that I like to do is build potential teams and i know i know it's not a great idea without a scum flip, but humour me:
From my perspective, I feel like the potential words atm are Scotty/Long Con vs SVS or X/X. I feel like X is either Roxy or Hal. Don't really have a read on either. Thought it was weird for roxy to show up out of the blue to say the timmer vote was bad like a few minutes before the phase ended without there being much chance to change the course. but eh, don't hard to find any mafia intent in that really as probably best for them to stay quiet
If Roxy is aligned with anyone, it’s much more hidden. Her main gripes have been keyed in on LC and Hal. I doubt either of those would be her partner. Literally anyone else could be partnered.
Let’s look at the d1 votes:
hal (1):
Voters: falcon45ca
Long Con (2):
Voters: S~V~S, Roxy
timmer (4):
Voters: Scotty, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, hal
We know thanks to Seanzie dying that both wolves voted on d1. That’s huge actually.
Svs and Roxy voted together. I HIGHLY doubt the timmer wagon is clean with all 4 of us mislynching.
That, to me, tells me both of svs and Roxy are not bad.
I think there’s at least 1 in the timmer wagon
Yea, they’re not *both bad*Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:06 pmhmm this helpfulScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:02 pmI don’t usually do comparative teammate analysis but the playerlist is small enough that it might be useful.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:37 pm Anyway, one of the things that I like to do is build potential teams and i know i know it's not a great idea without a scum flip, but humour me:
From my perspective, I feel like the potential words atm are Scotty/Long Con vs SVS or X/X. I feel like X is either Roxy or Hal. Don't really have a read on either. Thought it was weird for roxy to show up out of the blue to say the timmer vote was bad like a few minutes before the phase ended without there being much chance to change the course. but eh, don't hard to find any mafia intent in that really as probably best for them to stay quiet
If Roxy is aligned with anyone, it’s much more hidden. Her main gripes have been keyed in on LC and Hal. I doubt either of those would be her partner. Literally anyone else could be partnered.
Let’s look at the d1 votes:
hal (1):
Voters: falcon45ca
Long Con (2):
Voters: S~V~S, Roxy
timmer (4):
Voters: Scotty, Long Con, Justplayingitcool, hal
We know thanks to Seanzie dying that both wolves voted on d1. That’s huge actually.
Svs and Roxy voted together. I HIGHLY doubt the timmer wagon is clean with all 4 of us mislynching.
That, to me, tells me both of svs and Roxy are not bad.
I think there’s at least 1 in the timmer wagon
From the underlined, do you mean they aren't bad with each other?
Pretty revolutionary tbh
A departure from this:Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:57 pmyeah im not really super sold on long con as a baddie because i thought he was slightly townie in day 1. The only minor eyebrow raise was his list in day 1 having me as a scum read when I had 0 posts at the time. His new list today is a bit better thoughScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:50 pmThis is a legit tinfoil in a traditional sense because I have felt him rather towny in that he’s been so carefree and it could read as a defenseJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
On the flip side, I’m not traditional (except that I *do* hold the door for a lady). I think I would be more inclined to obstruct or bus a teammate
Is this still a thought? I feel like a disparity exists with your readsJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
It's still a thought, what I meant by that is I don't think one of you is town and the other is mafia. It meant you are either mafia/mafia or town/townScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:10 pmA departure from this:Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:57 pmyeah im not really super sold on long con as a baddie because i thought he was slightly townie in day 1. The only minor eyebrow raise was his list in day 1 having me as a scum read when I had 0 posts at the time. His new list today is a bit better thoughScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:50 pmThis is a legit tinfoil in a traditional sense because I have felt him rather towny in that he’s been so carefree and it could read as a defenseJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
On the flip side, I’m not traditional (except that I *do* hold the door for a lady). I think I would be more inclined to obstruct or bus a teammateIs this still a thought? I feel like a disparity exists with your readsJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
ah ok. It sounds like you’re currently on the thought that we’re T/T since you’re leaning towards a hal vote.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:12 pmIt's still a thought, what I meant by that is I don't think one of you is town and the other is mafia. It meant you are either mafia/mafia or town/townScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:10 pmA departure from this:Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:57 pmyeah im not really super sold on long con as a baddie because i thought he was slightly townie in day 1. The only minor eyebrow raise was his list in day 1 having me as a scum read when I had 0 posts at the time. His new list today is a bit better thoughScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:50 pmThis is a legit tinfoil in a traditional sense because I have felt him rather towny in that he’s been so carefree and it could read as a defenseJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
On the flip side, I’m not traditional (except that I *do* hold the door for a lady). I think I would be more inclined to obstruct or bus a teammateIs this still a thought? I feel like a disparity exists with your readsJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
Indeed because you've simply been townier than Hal this phase lolScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:13 pmah ok. It sounds like you’re currently on the thought that we’re T/T since you’re leaning towards a hal vote.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:12 pmIt's still a thought, what I meant by that is I don't think one of you is town and the other is mafia. It meant you are either mafia/mafia or town/townScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:10 pmA departure from this:Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:57 pmyeah im not really super sold on long con as a baddie because i thought he was slightly townie in day 1. The only minor eyebrow raise was his list in day 1 having me as a scum read when I had 0 posts at the time. His new list today is a bit better thoughScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:50 pmThis is a legit tinfoil in a traditional sense because I have felt him rather towny in that he’s been so carefree and it could read as a defenseJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
On the flip side, I’m not traditional (except that I *do* hold the door for a lady). I think I would be more inclined to obstruct or bus a teammateIs this still a thought? I feel like a disparity exists with your readsJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:39 pm Part of me though does feel like scotty/LC have been aligned together for most of the game and it's been mutual to each other. I don't think either are different alignments to each other
Exactly what my partner LC wants you to think![]()
(For legal purposes this is a joke)
Neither do I. But if this is the final break of Scotty's town streak, then he is doing a great job.
I just read over his ISO and I feel pretty towny about him. He'd be shaded a notch more green than Roxy and hal if I remade my list.
Just a warning, I'm going to actually elaborate lol.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:28 pmThank youS~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:23 pm@Justplayingitcool this is a reads post from earlier today.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:06 pmProbably you tbh. I see Halyn is taking some sus but they are relating to me the way town Halyn usually does. jpic and Falcon jumped right in when they arrived, and Roxy is playing an open game, which I associate with her.
You seem a tad more “throwing shit and seeing what sticks” than I usually associate with town you.
Can you elaborate moreon the hal read?
You have never read me right in any game unless you were bad and I was town.