Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[santygrass]

I'm a lot more cuter now.
I need to look good for the cameras after I obtain the pelt of Alison *yawn*

Looking good!

Like nami ste from one piece

Your One Piece references are so off that just make me want to sleep

[MacDougall]

Seems like something a Porscha teammate might say if Alison were town to me.

[Lilypetal]

@Lilypetal if ur roles related to a claim is there any world where u can use it on alison while we resolve porcha via votes? or can it only be porcha?

Only porscha. I imagine an alison wagon would give us more info on alignments anyway tbh

you may think this is a gotcha but it is not now be quiet and see if porscha posts or not

[santygrass]

And also I didnt say it but I think you chose your avatar poorly but wont go on specifica about why . *Yawn*

[MacDougall]

I'm a lot more cuter now.
I need to look good for the cameras after I obtain the pelt of Alison *yawn*

Looking good!

Like nami ste from one piece

Your One Piece references are so off that just make me want to sleep

Excuse me Santy but I just threw myself into the fray to defend you from a spurious push and was attacked for it by Dya who called me frantic and reachy. I would expect you to stand up for me but instead here you are talking shit.

[santygrass]

There is no way alison is town here zzzz

[Lilypetal]

And also I didnt say it but I think you chose your avatar poorly but wont go on specifica about why . *Yawn*

wow you're going all in with the pfp LOL its cute

[santygrass]

I'm a lot more cuter now.
I need to look good for the cameras after I obtain the pelt of Alison *yawn*

Looking good!

Like nami ste from one piece

Your One Piece references are so off that just make me want to sleep

Excuse me Santy but I just threw myself into the fray to defend you from a spurious push and was attacked for it by Dya who called me frantic and reachy. I would expect you to stand up for me but instead here you are talking shit.

I chose to not engage the people who were acting like if what alison was saying had any sort of sense zzzz

[MacDougall]

@Lilypetal if ur roles related to a claim is there any world where u can use it on alison while we resolve porcha via votes? or can it only be porcha?

Only porscha. I imagine an alison wagon would give us more info on alignments anyway tbh

you may think this is a gotcha but it is not now be quiet and see if porscha posts or not

I don't think it's a gotcha. I just think it's really scummy and I struggle to think of a role that can get a mechanical check on only one player in the game that would also forego the opportunity to confirm it. Especially you who is so forgiving of things like flakiness and low volume on a player you adore.

You sound reachy and frantic btw.

[Lilypetal]

I'm a lot more cuter now.
I need to look good for the cameras after I obtain the pelt of Alison *yawn*

Looking good!

Like nami ste from one piece

Your One Piece references are so off that just make me want to sleep

Excuse me Santy but I just threw myself into the fray to defend you from a spurious push and was attacked for it by Dya who called me frantic and reachy. I would expect you to stand up for me but instead here you are talking shit.

he should call you his new queen

[Alison]

@Alison your legacy literally said Santy was mafia because he was pushing you all game in bad faith.

I pointed out that that is not accurate.

If you want me to sheep you on Santy in the event of a green check, all I would ask for is an actually sound case instead of appealing to authority.

And frankly if you are town, Nanook accepting your appeal to authority is very suspicious because accepting an Alison appeal to authority for specifically him is much more likely only something he'd do to benefit a wolf wincon. I would expect town Nanook to be his usual stubborn self.

@Lilypetal if you have the mechanical ability to check Porscha and only Porscha, being willing to forgo it in 1.5 hrs or whatever doesn't seem reasonable to me. Particularly given you were hard townreading Porscha last time they were in the thread and I don't think you scumread Porscha for lack of volume.

Dya if you are town, the way you've treated me this game is essentially townreading me for being a moron and treating me like a moron. I hope that next time we play together that you don't do that because it's offensive. Or you're a wolf in which case fine.

This has been a reachy and frantic mac post.

Santy has pushed me.
The reasons he has pushed me for have been bad. I would argue that if we're talking about people who have lied about others, he has lied about me a lot more.
He has generally acted very suspicious around my flip. One example would be the thing I pointed out above where he said he was 100% convinced about me being scum but seemed very interested in pre-emptively discrediting my legacy as though I would flip town.
His content has been generally bad and useless for most of the game.
His presence in the thread has led to more chaos and not less.
His flip from defending to pushing me feels opportunistic and backed by agenda.

That's my case.

What is Nanook's wolf wincon here? Alison/Santy V/V and he's letting town self destruct? I don't think Santy is V, but in that world, why can't he just lie back and chill and do nothing and let the rest of the thread get their hands dirty with Santy?

[MacDougall]

I'm a lot more cuter now.
I need to look good for the cameras after I obtain the pelt of Alison *yawn*

Looking good!

Like nami ste from one piece

Your One Piece references are so off that just make me want to sleep

Excuse me Santy but I just threw myself into the fray to defend you from a spurious push and was attacked for it by Dya who called me frantic and reachy. I would expect you to stand up for me but instead here you are talking shit.

I chose to not engage the people who were acting like if what alison was saying had any sort of sense zzzz

You chose not to engage with things that are outright suspicious?

[santygrass]

Mac Lily dont fight. We all are town and just should kill the wolf of Alison and then try to run because their teammates are going to nk one of us. We dont have time to fight

[MacDougall]

I'm a lot more cuter now.
I need to look good for the cameras after I obtain the pelt of Alison *yawn*

Looking good!

Like nami ste from one piece

Your One Piece references are so off that just make me want to sleep

Excuse me Santy but I just threw myself into the fray to defend you from a spurious push and was attacked for it by Dya who called me frantic and reachy. I would expect you to stand up for me but instead here you are talking shit.

he should call you his new queen

I agree.

[santygrass]

Instead of that I am going to do something more productive and take a nap

[Lilypetal]

@Lilypetal if ur roles related to a claim is there any world where u can use it on alison while we resolve porcha via votes? or can it only be porcha?

Only porscha. I imagine an alison wagon would give us more info on alignments anyway tbh

you may think this is a gotcha but it is not now be quiet and see if porscha posts or not

I don't think it's a gotcha. I just think it's really scummy and I struggle to think of a role that can get a mechanical check on only one player in the game that would also forego the opportunity to confirm it. Especially you who is so forgiving of things like flakiness and low volume on a player you adore.

You sound reachy and frantic btw.

bruh i dont know how else to tell u that i dont want to out the specifics of my ability so that wolves know how to play around it in any other way

u know im town and i have no incentive to lie

i am forgiving of those things but porscha hasn't posted in eons and I am very sure she's frozen

[MacDougall]

@Alison your legacy literally said Santy was mafia because he was pushing you all game in bad faith.

I pointed out that that is not accurate.

If you want me to sheep you on Santy in the event of a green check, all I would ask for is an actually sound case instead of appealing to authority.

And frankly if you are town, Nanook accepting your appeal to authority is very suspicious because accepting an Alison appeal to authority for specifically him is much more likely only something he'd do to benefit a wolf wincon. I would expect town Nanook to be his usual stubborn self.

@Lilypetal if you have the mechanical ability to check Porscha and only Porscha, being willing to forgo it in 1.5 hrs or whatever doesn't seem reasonable to me. Particularly given you were hard townreading Porscha last time they were in the thread and I don't think you scumread Porscha for lack of volume.

Dya if you are town, the way you've treated me this game is essentially townreading me for being a moron and treating me like a moron. I hope that next time we play together that you don't do that because it's offensive. Or you're a wolf in which case fine.

This has been a reachy and frantic mac post.

Santy has pushed me.
The reasons he has pushed me for have been bad. I would argue that if we're talking about people who have lied about others, he has lied about me a lot more.
He has generally acted very suspicious around my flip. One example would be the thing I pointed out above where he said he was 100% convinced about me being scum but seemed very interested in pre-emptively discrediting my legacy as though I would flip town.
His content has been generally bad and useless for most of the game.
His presence in the thread has led to more chaos and not less.
His flip from defending to pushing me feels opportunistic and backed by agenda.

That's my case.

What is Nanook's wolf wincon here? Alison/Santy V/V and he's letting town self destruct? I don't think Santy is V, but in that world, why can't he just lie back and chill and do nothing and let the rest of the thread get their hands dirty with Santy?

That's being pretty generous to the old Nook. If that's your argument then why do wolves do anything ever?

[Alison]

I'm a lot more cuter now.
I need to look good for the cameras after I obtain the pelt of Alison *yawn*

Looking good!

Like nami ste from one piece

Your One Piece references are so off that just make me want to sleep

Excuse me Santy but I just threw myself into the fray to defend you from a spurious push and was attacked for it by Dya who called me frantic and reachy. I would expect you to stand up for me but instead here you are talking shit.

I chose to not engage the people who were acting like if what alison was saying had any sort of sense zzzz

You chose not to engage with things that are outright suspicious?

Perhaps because he is more interested in trying to look like a tunnelled wrong townie than actually finding my partners like he would be if he was town who believed I was mafia.

[MacDougall]

@Lilypetal if ur roles related to a claim is there any world where u can use it on alison while we resolve porcha via votes? or can it only be porcha?

Only porscha. I imagine an alison wagon would give us more info on alignments anyway tbh

you may think this is a gotcha but it is not now be quiet and see if porscha posts or not

I don't think it's a gotcha. I just think it's really scummy and I struggle to think of a role that can get a mechanical check on only one player in the game that would also forego the opportunity to confirm it. Especially you who is so forgiving of things like flakiness and low volume on a player you adore.

You sound reachy and frantic btw.

bruh i dont know how else to tell u that i dont want to out the specifics of my ability so that wolves know how to play around it in any other way

u know im town and i have no incentive to lie

i am forgiving of those things but porscha hasn't posted in eons and I am very sure she's frozen

I think it's reasonably obvious I don't know you're town actually.

[santygrass]

You have a whole day to pinpoint stances in where I was misrepping you Alison fwiw.

[MacDougall]

Instead of that I am going to do something more productive and take a nap

lesson learned, santy is selfish

[Alison]

That's being pretty generous to the old Nook. If that's your argument then why do wolves do anything ever?

I think Nook can get away with doing nothing more than most players and he takes advantage of that as wolf.

But more generally I think the only plausible wolf agenda he could have is in a world where me/Santy are V/V (if Santy is a wolf what does he have to gain by promising to spotlight his partner?).

Not only do I think it's unlikely Santy is V, I also think that particular scenario (me/Santy being villagers together) is one that is ripe for town self destruction and thus it is uniquely a situation where wolves are poised to eat popcorn.

[Alison]

You have a whole day to pinpoint stances in where I was misrepping you Alison fwiw.

I already have.

[MacDougall]

Mac Lily dont fight. We all are town and just should kill the wolf of Alison and then try to run because their teammates are going to nk one of us. We dont have time to fight

Sure we do

[Chamomile]

@alison why Rodo!?

@santygrass it looked cool to me! I asked friends who watch one piece what it was about and they didn’t mention anything negative just something about being a super saiyan 5

[Alison]

@alison why Rodo!?

@santygrass it looked cool to me! I asked friends who watch one piece what it was about and they didn’t mention anything negative just something about being a super saiyan 5

Because you were voting him?

[santygrass]

Like omg Im such a liar I accused you of hard townreading Tilg which was wolfsidey.
I accused you of pushing V/V D1 . Accused you of heavily discredit the Porscha wagon D1.
I accused you of not pushing for Porscha and only have your vote parked there.

So many lies there!!!

I am sorry AlisonI didnt saw your pretty blatantly obvious townsiding in D1. I think its because lf skill Issue and that I should go to sleep to fix it


Zzzzz

[santygrass]

@alison why Rodo!?

@santygrass it looked cool to me! I asked friends who watch one piece what it was about and they didn’t mention anything negative just something about being a super saiyan 5

*Yawn*

Tell your friends that I am disappointed in them and that as op fans they should know better

[MacDougall]

That's being pretty generous to the old Nook. If that's your argument then why do wolves do anything ever?

I think Nook can get away with doing nothing more than most players and he takes advantage of that as wolf.

But more generally I think the only plausible wolf agenda he could have is in a world where me/Santy are V/V (if Santy is a wolf what does he have to gain by promising to spotlight his partner?).

Not only do I think it's unlikely Santy is V, I also think that particular scenario (me/Santy being villagers together) is one that is ripe for town self destruction and thus it is uniquely a situation where wolves are poised to eat popcorn.

I mean, you're definitely overstating his reaction. It was a simple "when you flip green I will look into miselimming the two town you're wrongly pushing". And nothing more.

I gotta say Alison, if you're town here, you're pretty much ignoring logic in favour of making strawman arguments which is so unlike town you it's doing nothing but confirmation biasing me.

The little "Mac would be responsible for two town deaths" you threw in is also rich considering you and Dya were more responsible for arogame's situation than I was.

[Alison]

Like omg Im such a liar I accused you of hard townreading Tilg which was wolfsidey.
I accused you of pushing V/V D1 . Accused you of heavily discredit the Porscha wagon D1.
I accused you of not pushing for Porscha and only have your vote parked there.

So many lies there!!!

I am sorry AlisonI didnt saw your pretty blatantly obvious townsiding in D1. I think its because lf skill Issue and that I should go to sleep to fix it


Zzzzz

Yes, all of those are lies.

I have Tilgarial as a top suspect.
You have no way of knowing Millium is town so accusing me of pushing V/V D1 is actually TMI.
I always said Porscha had high scum equity even when people were dismissing her and have hard pushed her today.
And I have consistently and repeatedly said to vote Porscha out... until you told me to back off her because she was getting resolved by Lily.

So all misreps. I am sure once Macdougall who cannot stand for lies reads this post he will realize the truth and vote you.

[Alison]

That's being pretty generous to the old Nook. If that's your argument then why do wolves do anything ever?

I think Nook can get away with doing nothing more than most players and he takes advantage of that as wolf.

But more generally I think the only plausible wolf agenda he could have is in a world where me/Santy are V/V (if Santy is a wolf what does he have to gain by promising to spotlight his partner?).

Not only do I think it's unlikely Santy is V, I also think that particular scenario (me/Santy being villagers together) is one that is ripe for town self destruction and thus it is uniquely a situation where wolves are poised to eat popcorn.

I mean, you're definitely overstating his reaction. It was a simple "when you flip green I will look into miselimming the two town you're wrongly pushing". And nothing more.

I gotta say Alison, if you're town here, you're pretty much ignoring logic in favour of making strawman arguments which is so unlike town you it's doing nothing but confirmation biasing me.

The little "Mac would be responsible for two town deaths" you threw in is also rich considering you and Dya were more responsible for arogame's situation than I was.

Well I'm flipped green and clearly not responsible for pushing myself, and Dya isn't on my wagon, so... why would we be relevant there?

Anyway I think if you are town you should calm down and take a moment to consider that if I flip green that maybe I was not totally wrong about everything just because you don't understand or agree with my logic. I think a town Mac would do that. And don't say it's manipulation because this is actions that you would perform after I flip so it's pointless for me to do as wolf.

[MacDougall]

At any rate, your POE is largely fine. If Porscha is not a wolf then I'll eat my hat. I think Tilgarial is a fine lim. I don't actually townread Belzy anymore. I don't like your reasons on Santy. I townread Ender but the way you chose to defend him as an Alison voter was wack and then him unvoting you was double wack so if anything that interaction has soured Ender for me a bit, but it's not as if I'm gonna just bury him over it. It's not the flagrant denial of your legacy that you think it is. I think you're a wolf, but even if you flip town I am confident that I know where in your legacy your reads are influenced by omgus and bad case making and can make my own conclusions.

Sorry about being so frantic and reachy.

[MacDougall]

That's being pretty generous to the old Nook. If that's your argument then why do wolves do anything ever?

I think Nook can get away with doing nothing more than most players and he takes advantage of that as wolf.

But more generally I think the only plausible wolf agenda he could have is in a world where me/Santy are V/V (if Santy is a wolf what does he have to gain by promising to spotlight his partner?).

Not only do I think it's unlikely Santy is V, I also think that particular scenario (me/Santy being villagers together) is one that is ripe for town self destruction and thus it is uniquely a situation where wolves are poised to eat popcorn.

I mean, you're definitely overstating his reaction. It was a simple "when you flip green I will look into miselimming the two town you're wrongly pushing". And nothing more.

I gotta say Alison, if you're town here, you're pretty much ignoring logic in favour of making strawman arguments which is so unlike town you it's doing nothing but confirmation biasing me.

The little "Mac would be responsible for two town deaths" you threw in is also rich considering you and Dya were more responsible for arogame's situation than I was.

Well I'm flipped green and clearly not responsible for pushing myself, and Dya isn't on my wagon, so... why would we be relevant there?

Anyway I think if you are town you should calm down and take a moment to consider that if I flip green that maybe I was not totally wrong about everything just because you don't understand or agree with my logic. I think a town Mac would do that. And don't say it's manipulation because this is actions that you would perform after I flip so it's pointless for me to do as wolf.

Never said you were wrong about everything. I just pointed out the two things that were fallacious, that being the Santy and Ender points.

Also if you are actually town, Santygrass hard tunneling you doesn't make him mafia. If anything it makes him more towny. Santy doesn't really have a misreads tell. Going from hard shielding you to burying you makes very little logical sense to begin with given he could have just kept doing it and just pushed into a range of other slots. I was also present during his reevaluation progression and it was not the bad faith illogical nonsense you thought it was. It was the most sane that he'd been in the entire game tbh.

[Alison]

At any rate, your POE is largely fine. If Porscha is not a wolf then I'll eat my hat. I think Tilgarial is a fine lim. I don't actually townread Belzy anymore. I don't like your reasons on Santy. I townread Ender but the way you chose to defend him as an Alison voter was wack and then him unvoting you was double wack so if anything that interaction has soured Ender for me a bit, but it's not as if I'm gonna just bury him over it. It's not the flagrant denial of your legacy that you think it is. I think you're a wolf, but even if you flip town I am confident that I know where in your legacy your reads are influenced by omgus and bad case making and can make my own conclusions.

Sorry about being so frantic and reachy.

My read on Ender is that he is scummy on play but I am not pushing him to respect Aro's putting him in never kill, and yet I said that he is on thin ice. I don't have him as a townread.

If you seriously are going to look at my legacy and say "well these parts are wrong because Alison is biased and illogical" even after I flip town then that is a really bad sign. Because it means you know that the legacy was written in good faith and are coming up with reasons to try to discredit it.

[MacDougall]

I just can't help but be frantic and reachy sometimes ya know.

[Alison]

The most frantic and reachy thing you have done is overreact to dya offhandedly calling you frantic and reachy - while shielding you from me even - and sarcastically incorporate it into your next 50 posts for no reason. When talking to someone who never said that about you.

[MacDougall]

At any rate, your POE is largely fine. If Porscha is not a wolf then I'll eat my hat. I think Tilgarial is a fine lim. I don't actually townread Belzy anymore. I don't like your reasons on Santy. I townread Ender but the way you chose to defend him as an Alison voter was wack and then him unvoting you was double wack so if anything that interaction has soured Ender for me a bit, but it's not as if I'm gonna just bury him over it. It's not the flagrant denial of your legacy that you think it is. I think you're a wolf, but even if you flip town I am confident that I know where in your legacy your reads are influenced by omgus and bad case making and can make my own conclusions.

Sorry about being so frantic and reachy.

My read on Ender is that he is scummy on play but I am not pushing him to respect Aro's putting him in never kill, and yet I said that he is on thin ice. I don't have him as a townread.

If you seriously are going to look at my legacy and say "well these parts are wrong because Alison is biased and illogical" even after I flip town then that is a really bad sign. Because it means you know that the legacy was written in good faith and are coming up with reasons to try to discredit it.

I am capable of preflipping. I think most players are. It is not difficult to be able to preflip analyse how your argument would make sense as either alignment. Why are you trying to confirmation bias me as mafia here when I am clearly in my town meta?

[Alison]

Also if you are actually town, Santygrass hard tunneling you doesn't make him mafia. If anything it makes him more towny.

???

Are you seriously going to townread someone for blatantly killing townies with no remorse? Come on

[MacDougall]

The most frantic and reachy thing you have done is overreact to dya offhandedly calling you frantic and reachy - while shielding you from me even - and sarcastically incorporate it into your next 50 posts for no reason. When talking to someone who never said that about you.

Not the most frantic and reachy thing I've done is post this gif.

[MacDougall]

Also if you are actually town, Santygrass hard tunneling you doesn't make him mafia. If anything it makes him more towny.

???

Are you seriously going to townread someone for blatantly killing townies with no remorse? Come on

I know you are laughing while posting this. Townies kill townies with no remorse in every game of mafia that's ever played Alison.

[MacDougall]

Hell, YOU kill townies with no remorse as a policy.

[santygrass]

Also if you are actually town, Santygrass hard tunneling you doesn't make him mafia. If anything it makes him more towny.

???

Are you seriously going to townread someone for blatantly killing townies with no remorse? Come on

I'm such a good mafia player that I succesfully pocketed Illario, Mac, Lily and all the players who have more experience playing with me than you .
*Yawn*
As some might say . Skill Issue moment

[MacDougall]

In fact your entire day 1 could be described as blatantly killing townies with no remorse if Wisp is the town that everyone believes him to be.

[santygrass]

She said to believe Wisp was town, so yes.

There is no way she looks at their D1 and says 'Omg how someone dares to accuse me of being wolf' because the amount of wolfsiding there is insane even using the perspective she has now on this day.

[Alison]

Also if you are actually town, Santygrass hard tunneling you doesn't make him mafia. If anything it makes him more towny.

???

Are you seriously going to townread someone for blatantly killing townies with no remorse? Come on

I know you are laughing while posting this. Townies kill townies with no remorse in every game of mafia that's ever played Alison.

But why is it a reason to actively townread them

You can argue that someone sucks at mafia so them making an int read is NAI but surely you don't think killing townies is done more often by Santy as town than as mafia... like this guy isn't a troll or anything, he's a regular and well respected player, he's not gonna show up and run it down for no reason

[MacDougall]

Also if you are actually town, Santygrass hard tunneling you doesn't make him mafia. If anything it makes him more towny.

???

Are you seriously going to townread someone for blatantly killing townies with no remorse? Come on

It's been a long time since I've added a quote to my signature but this is going in it after this game. It's a very funny post for wolf Alison to make.

[santygrass]

@Tilgarial what are your reads?

You did a little questions schtick and whatnoe but I cant remember some strong takes or leanings on your part tbhtbh.

[Alison]

In fact your entire day 1 could be described as blatantly killing townies with no remorse if Wisp is the town that everyone believes him to be.

Yes. Notice how nobody is giving me townreads for it?

So why are you giving a townread to Santy for blatantly killing me a townie?

[Alison]

Also if you are actually town, Santygrass hard tunneling you doesn't make him mafia. If anything it makes him more towny.

???

Are you seriously going to townread someone for blatantly killing townies with no remorse? Come on

I'm such a good mafia player that I succesfully pocketed Illario, Mac, Lily and all the players who have more experience playing with me than you .
*Yawn*
As some might say . Skill Issue moment

They have a big skill issue if they're town and still townread you yeah

[santygrass]

Because my avatar is cuter than yours *yawn*