Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I dont have a problem with aggressive, i just think it may be alignment indicative for you even though you say it is not.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:27 pmIt's unrelated to the game but I will probably be in an aggro mood the entire time. If you don't want to deal with that, then I'm sorry. I'm still trying to play the game but I'm busy with a lot of irl stuff right now.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:26 amYou are oddly aggro in this game, what happened?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 amI don't give a flying fuck what Sabi thinks of me if they're not reading the game. Point was that there's no need to be unnecessarily rude to people, just ignore it and move on. And I think it's slimy that you're turning this into a push on me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:16 amSounds like they made themselves feel less welcome and we're just agreeing with them.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pmI just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:37 pm What about that post says "I'm here for a good time" to you lol
They do this every other game and it sucks quite frankly
I think you are saying this performatively to try to pocket Sabi tbh considering that you are going out of your way to whiteknight someone who doesn't even want to be here.
[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine
(I am aware it's night, I'm using vote tags to indicate who I'd be voting if it was day)
I don't think Alison's hostility is alignment indicative, I think it isn't LAMISTGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:37 pmIm not judging the message not the delivery. Hostility for Alison is not alignment indicative.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:39 amNeither Sabi or Alison was being LAMIST there at all?Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:33 pmI like Alison, sooooo LAMIST
Moreso 'Look At Me I'm So Hostile'?
She getting baited by sabi is,
/ShrugGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:41 pmIt's human psychology when they are guilty, they are very self aware of what might look bad for them.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 amI don't see why they'd need to both agree on doing so or why mafia wouldnt agree on saying the same thingGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
If you are mafia and you are being suspected for something by someone, your partner is not gonna try exactly the same thing and risked getting suspected as well, you'd try something different.
It isn't the fact you have confidence, moreso that I think confidence isn't fit hereGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pmOh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 amNot loving your confidence in it at allGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pmNah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pmNah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
Small SL on you
This is not OMGUS
It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
YikesGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pmDiscord no longer allows that, they disable links to images posted outside of discord within 24 hours.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:56 amI always post mine in a private Discord Server so I can copy the link from there☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:57 amNot that I know of I always upload mine to imgbb
Why name others to begin with then
Because i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:18 pmYou have a town lock for Lemon, do I get it right?sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:14 pmSuccessful ripsig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:14 pmLemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:01 am I was going to wait until D1 before actually using my brain but here's where I'm at from a quick read:
nutella - nutella is just vibing, and we love that
Epi - posts are funny
pyxxy - idk like "one of the cool kids" vibes
falcon - sarcasm on point, tickled my sense of humor
Porscha/Abigail - uwu but chilling, feels like they're having their own little tea party or something
sig - idk, just feels reliable
Windward - awkward feels
Guillo - Guillo feels like they're try-harding, which could swing either way but it clashes with idk the thread ambience a little
Alison - came on strong, not vibing
everyone else is null or I don't remember
no particular order within groupings
I’ll take it, pocket attempt successfully, lemon is now my ride or die
I as not thinking about multiball then.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:36 pmI actually wanna townlean him because he's voiced a couple things I've thought but kept to myself. I know his wolfrange is pretty impressive, though. But still.
The one thing that gets me is that multiball comment cause that's definitely not the first thing I'd think of, especially since Guillo made that earlier unpaired read (which ftr I found nothing wrong with) but did not make a comment about multiball then.
Counterpoint 1: I said I would almost consider it, not that I actually wouldGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:57 pm Town caitlin never ever entertains sheeping someone whom opposes her reads.
She is more stubborn about them than myself.
I’ve done zero 3P hunting though, seems like you’re trying really hard to find a reason to vote for someone, but not trying really hard to find mafia.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
Tell me about it, i usually post my kon image from bleach in my first post, but i dont know any good free image hosting services anymore.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:57 pmYikesGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pmDiscord no longer allows that, they disable links to images posted outside of discord within 24 hours.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:56 amI always post mine in a private Discord Server so I can copy the link from there☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:57 amNot that I know of I always upload mine to imgbb
Thats annoying
Well the one time you caught me it was for TMI'ing the ppl I didn't know town when I... Didn't know 67% of my teamGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:01 pmI got an extensive list of games that proves that i got high probability reads. It is not just a knee jerk reaction, caitlin is not acting like her usual town self and she will probably tell me post game that all of the reasons i caught her for are all wrong reasons,Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:56 pmThey aren't really pushing, they made an observation with a scumlean, and you're doing the over-the-top-knee-jerk reaction that I'd expect from town!you, but that I also don't think leads to high probability reads.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:52 pmYes! It is odd at best and sus at worse for anyone who has played with me several times to push that angle and give me a scum lean.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:50 pm...Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pmYesSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:47 pmNo.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pm
Oh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.
This is not OMGUS
It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
No.
Or perhaps I'm just townGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
No? Didnt i catch you scum in a game within the first two hours of a game?Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:56 pmIt isn't the fact you have confidence, moreso that I think confidence isn't fit hereGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pmOh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 amNot loving your confidence in it at allGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pmNah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pmNah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
Small SL on you
This is not OMGUS
It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
Your postsWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:28 pmGoing against the stream, I see. What's that read on me based on, my posts or a threadread?Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:51 amI bet WWA is townWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:25 amyou called Guillo out on doing this, but you didn't call out my post doing the same thing (albeit with different names)?sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:35 pmHate this postGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
1. It’s way to early to not link people
2. Nobody really talks about this prior to responding
And I bet Cape is town too - yes I'm well aware Cape isnt involved above but I still wanna say it anyway
Oh my how could a townie possibly townread you!WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:38 pm I'm wary of Caitlin going to bat for me and betting that I'm town off of ??? reasons. Feels a bit pockety, but I'm waiting for her explanation on what her reasoning was.
Be it as it may, it should tell you i got the nose of a canine when it comes to catching scum early day 1, whether it is for wrong reasons or not.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:03 pmWell the one time you caught me it was for TMI'ing the ppl I didn't know town when I... Didn't know 67% of my teamGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:01 pmI got an extensive list of games that proves that i got high probability reads. It is not just a knee jerk reaction, caitlin is not acting like her usual town self and she will probably tell me post game that all of the reasons i caught her for are all wrong reasons,Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:56 pmThey aren't really pushing, they made an observation with a scumlean, and you're doing the over-the-top-knee-jerk reaction that I'd expect from town!you, but that I also don't think leads to high probability reads.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:52 pmYes! It is odd at best and sus at worse for anyone who has played with me several times to push that angle and give me a scum lean.
That was clearly for the wrong reasons
How could I have too much information about something incorrect
RipGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:02 pmTell me about it, i usually post my kon image from bleach in my first post, but i dont know any good free image hosting services anymore.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:57 pmYikesGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 pmDiscord no longer allows that, they disable links to images posted outside of discord within 24 hours.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:56 amI always post mine in a private Discord Server so I can copy the link from there☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:57 amNot that I know of I always upload mine to imgbb
Thats annoying
Well yes you did catch me for the wrong reasonsGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:06 pmNo? Didnt i catch you scum in a game within the first two hours of a game?Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:56 pmIt isn't the fact you have confidence, moreso that I think confidence isn't fit hereGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:44 pmOh oh… caitlin goes to my scum pile then.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:42 amNot loving your confidence in it at allGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:54 pmNah, wolf Nanook does not go down the same route as wolf Alison did after seeing me eyeing Alison for it. He'd just stay away from it, i could see Nanook doing it as scum to indirectly support Alison's reaction and maybe pocket her that way.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:50 pmNah, it was cooked up by two out of the three in wolf chat.Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
Small SL on you
This is not OMGUS
It is the fact that by now, you should know that confidence is not alignment indicative for me and i hold you to higher standards than a lot of people, so i dont believe you believe that my confidence is sus, therefore your intentions are not pure.
I believe i tunneled the crap out of you until you left and were replaced.
Everyone knows here that if there is someone who can develop confident reads early day 1, that is me.
TrueGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:08 pmBe it as it may, it should tell you i got the nose of a canine when it comes to catching scum early day 1, whether it is for wrong reasons or not.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:03 pmWell the one time you caught me it was for TMI'ing the ppl I didn't know town when I... Didn't know 67% of my teamGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:01 pmI got an extensive list of games that proves that i got high probability reads. It is not just a knee jerk reaction, caitlin is not acting like her usual town self and she will probably tell me post game that all of the reasons i caught her for are all wrong reasons,Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:56 pmThey aren't really pushing, they made an observation with a scumlean, and you're doing the over-the-top-knee-jerk reaction that I'd expect from town!you, but that I also don't think leads to high probability reads.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:52 pmYes! It is odd at best and sus at worse for anyone who has played with me several times to push that angle and give me a scum lean.
That was clearly for the wrong reasons
How could I have too much information about something incorrect
If you want to read my recent games you're more than welcome toGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:52 pmI dont have a problem with aggressive, i just think it may be alignment indicative for you even though you say it is not.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:27 pmIt's unrelated to the game but I will probably be in an aggro mood the entire time. If you don't want to deal with that, then I'm sorry. I'm still trying to play the game but I'm busy with a lot of irl stuff right now.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:26 amYou are oddly aggro in this game, what happened?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:04 amI don't give a flying fuck what Sabi thinks of me if they're not reading the game. Point was that there's no need to be unnecessarily rude to people, just ignore it and move on. And I think it's slimy that you're turning this into a push on me.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:16 amSounds like they made themselves feel less welcome and we're just agreeing with them.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:43 pmI just ignore it, it's white noise as far as I'm concerned. Not game-related and not alignment-indicative. Lots of people come in and say they hate mafia, lots of people come in and say they love mafia. I don't really give a shit, but I think making people feel even less welcome in the game just makes it worse tbh.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:37 pm What about that post says "I'm here for a good time" to you lol
They do this every other game and it sucks quite frankly
I think you are saying this performatively to try to pocket Sabi tbh considering that you are going out of your way to whiteknight someone who doesn't even want to be here.
[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine
(I am aware it's night, I'm using vote tags to indicate who I'd be voting if it was day)
Time will tell
Yeah, but wouldn't you normally default to thinking two wolfy unpaired players are mafia and 3P, rather than two mafia factions? Seems like quite the assumption to me, maybe I just have a different experience, but I see 3Ps frequently and almost never multiball.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
I'm hunting for mafia, why the fuck would I vote for someone? It's still night phase.sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:02 pmI’ve done zero 3P hunting though, seems like you’re trying really hard to find a reason to vote for someone, but not trying really hard to find mafia.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
Well that further strengthens my read, you pretty much are saying that you wouldnt sheep as caitlin, so much, that you had to create an alt to not be associated with sheeping,Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:01 pmCounterpoint 1: I said I would almost consider it, not that I actually wouldGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:57 pm Town caitlin never ever entertains sheeping someone whom opposes her reads.
She is more stubborn about them than myself.
Counterpoint 2: I have an MU alt, Porcelain Doll, where I do sheep lots since I do actually like sheeping
I generally care a lot about people's opinions of me.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:06 pmYour postsWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:28 pmGoing against the stream, I see. What's that read on me based on, my posts or a threadread?Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:51 amI bet WWA is townWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:25 amyou called Guillo out on doing this, but you didn't call out my post doing the same thing (albeit with different names)?sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:35 pmHate this postGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
1. It’s way to early to not link people
2. Nobody really talks about this prior to responding
And I bet Cape is town too - yes I'm well aware Cape isnt involved above but I still wanna say it anyway
If it was a thread state read I'd have specifically stated so (I also doubt ppl rlly have them, it being N0 at all)
I just like them and I feel like you wanna solve the game without rlly caring about other's opinions on you
I honestly dont think its sus for Guillo fwiw, its not like mafia would know its Town vs Mafia, Town vs Mafia vs Mafia2 or Town vs Mafia vs 3pWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:12 pmYeah, but wouldn't you normally default to thinking two wolfy unpaired players are mafia and 3P, rather than two mafia factions? Seems like quite the assumption to me, maybe I just have a different experience, but I see 3Ps frequently and almost never multiball.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
Welcome to syndicate, the place where ive seen most of multiball games in my forum mafia life.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:12 pmYeah, but wouldn't you normally default to thinking two wolfy unpaired players are mafia and 3P, rather than two mafia factions? Seems like quite the assumption to me, maybe I just have a different experience, but I see 3Ps frequently and almost never multiball.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
More often than not, it comes from wolves in my experience. Town always thinks I'm scummy, but wolves love to take the opposite stance and defend me because they know they can get me mislunched without dirtying their hands. I know that's not the case for everyone, but that's how it usually goes for me.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:07 pmOh my how could a townie possibly townread you!WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:38 pm I'm wary of Caitlin going to bat for me and betting that I'm town off of ??? reasons. Feels a bit pockety, but I'm waiting for her explanation on what her reasoning was.
Counterpoint 3: Counterpoint 1Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pmWell that further strengthens my read, you pretty much are saying that you wouldnt sheep as caitlin, so much, that you had to create an alt to not be associated with sheeping,Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:01 pmCounterpoint 1: I said I would almost consider it, not that I actually wouldGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:57 pm Town caitlin never ever entertains sheeping someone whom opposes her reads.
She is more stubborn about them than myself.
Counterpoint 2: I have an MU alt, Porcelain Doll, where I do sheep lots since I do actually like sheeping
If Porcelain Doll was playing here i would put it to rest, but you are not playing as Porcelain Doll, you are playing as caitlin whom does not sheep anyone, and you saying you almost consider it is stating a form of approval for Seanzie;s post while not fully committimg to it, aka pocket.
Hm?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:14 pmI generally care a lot about people's opinions of me.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:06 pmYour postsWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:28 pmGoing against the stream, I see. What's that read on me based on, my posts or a threadread?Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:51 amI bet WWA is townWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:25 amyou called Guillo out on doing this, but you didn't call out my post doing the same thing (albeit with different names)?sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:35 pmHate this postGuillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:48 pm I will say though that Alison and Nanook are not mafia together based on those interactions, I doubt they both agree on reacting to sabi the way they did both did, specially after i called Alison LAMIST for it.
1. It’s way to early to not link people
2. Nobody really talks about this prior to responding
And I bet Cape is town too - yes I'm well aware Cape isnt involved above but I still wanna say it anyway
If it was a thread state read I'd have specifically stated so (I also doubt ppl rlly have them, it being N0 at all)
I just like them and I feel like you wanna solve the game without rlly caring about other's opinions on you
Me not caring is only indicative that I have other things to do than camp the thread.
The only recent time we played, on FoL, I correctly townread you too when you were a consensus scumread tooWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:16 pmMore often than not, it comes from wolves in my experience. Town always thinks I'm scummy, but wolves love to take the opposite stance and defend me because they know they can get me mislunched without dirtying their hands. I know that's not the case for everyone, but that's how it usually goes for me.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:07 pmOh my how could a townie possibly townread you!WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:38 pm I'm wary of Caitlin going to bat for me and betting that I'm town off of ??? reasons. Feels a bit pockety, but I'm waiting for her explanation on what her reasoning was.
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pmI'm hunting for mafia, why the fuck would I vote for someone? It's still night phase.sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:02 pmI’ve done zero 3P hunting though, seems like you’re trying really hard to find a reason to vote for someone, but not trying really hard to find mafia.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
I play like this tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:17 pm And just for the record, im not hunting for multiple mafia, even if there are in this game, tjey are all scum to me.
Hard disagree with all of this, but it's probably a playstyle thing. Flipless association reads are a bit hit or miss, I get that, since they're only worthwhile if you see a wolf flip (a town flip from a paired/unpaired read you made previously gives you close to nothing). But I think building an early towncore is a very solid strategy, as long as you're willing to weigh in regularly and reevaluate if there's evidence pointing the other way.sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.
It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.
Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.
Thought about pointing out the first thing too but I was anxious I maybe misunderstoodsig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:18 pmWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pmI'm hunting for mafia, why the fuck would I vote for someone? It's still night phase.sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:02 pmI’ve done zero 3P hunting though, seems like you’re trying really hard to find a reason to vote for someone, but not trying really hard to find mafia.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
I wasn’t responding to you, but really weird how defensive you got and the sudden tone change.
We are going in circles here, you are not changing my mind and im not going to make you accept that im right.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:16 pmCounterpoint 3: Counterpoint 1Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pmWell that further strengthens my read, you pretty much are saying that you wouldnt sheep as caitlin, so much, that you had to create an alt to not be associated with sheeping,Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:01 pmCounterpoint 1: I said I would almost consider it, not that I actually wouldGuillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:57 pm Town caitlin never ever entertains sheeping someone whom opposes her reads.
She is more stubborn about them than myself.
Counterpoint 2: I have an MU alt, Porcelain Doll, where I do sheep lots since I do actually like sheeping
If Porcelain Doll was playing here i would put it to rest, but you are not playing as Porcelain Doll, you are playing as caitlin whom does not sheep anyone, and you saying you almost consider it is stating a form of approval for Seanzie;s post while not fully committimg to it, aka pocket.
Yeah but I feel like he might know something and he mentioned multiball to throw us off, so that he can later say "see, it wasn't TMI!"Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:15 pmI honestly dont think its sus for Guillo fwiw, its not like mafia would know its Town vs Mafia, Town vs Mafia vs Mafia2 or Town vs Mafia vs 3pWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:12 pmYeah, but wouldn't you normally default to thinking two wolfy unpaired players are mafia and 3P, rather than two mafia factions? Seems like quite the assumption to me, maybe I just have a different experience, but I see 3Ps frequently and almost never multiball.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
Sure, if he was 3p he'd know 3p rolled but then I dont see why he'd talk abt it being multiball, and ngl, even then it could be multiball
Ok, maybe I just don't play on here often enough.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:16 pmWelcome to syndicate, the place where ive seen most of multiball games in my forum mafia life.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:12 pmYeah, but wouldn't you normally default to thinking two wolfy unpaired players are mafia and 3P, rather than two mafia factions? Seems like quite the assumption to me, maybe I just have a different experience, but I see 3Ps frequently and almost never multiball.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:59 pmBecause i never hunt for 3Ps unless there are solid indications they exist.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:33 pmWhy do you jump to thinking it's multiball and not that one of them could be a 3p/SK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:05 pm Alison and caitlin are both scummy but they dont make sense as partners. Maybe this is a multiball game and they are both scum from different teams.
Now it is possible that there are 3Ps here, but do i care about them? No.
Why? Cause they are harder to find, if they are solo scum, they act like town with a different win condition, also it is in their best interest to kill scum first as much as it is to us cause well, scum could kill them too.
I never hunt for 3Ps unless im scum for that same reason, and it is that reason i suspect Sig for.
I mean it's not towny from me. I'm super self-aware so usually I'll try to engage everyone who gives an opinion on me and then form my reads from that. I'm only half-assing it this time because I don't have the energy.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:17 pmHm?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:14 pmI generally care a lot about people's opinions of me.Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:06 pmYour postsWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:28 pmGoing against the stream, I see. What's that read on me based on, my posts or a threadread?Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:51 amI bet WWA is townWindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:25 amyou called Guillo out on doing this, but you didn't call out my post doing the same thing (albeit with different names)?
And I bet Cape is town too - yes I'm well aware Cape isnt involved above but I still wanna say it anyway
If it was a thread state read I'd have specifically stated so (I also doubt ppl rlly have them, it being N0 at all)
I just like them and I feel like you wanna solve the game without rlly caring about other's opinions on you
Me not caring is only indicative that I have other things to do than camp the thread.