The Syndicate

or, even jules and daisy. I really have to go get ready

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:20 pm I still feel like Eloh is town. Why would she role claim what she did and even admit to not using it if she were scum? If she does have a "do it again" role, it would have been useful as scum. Eloh has gotten frustrated with this game because of unfair approaches of playing mafia, like lynching Mac while he was away. It doesn't surprise me at all that she would rather play a fair, straight-forward game and refuse to use a role that might mess that up.

I'm listening Luna. Who do you see as more of a possibility?

I'm actually more suspicious of Spacedaisy right now than Eloh or Juliets. She's added enough to the above finger-pointing to look involved, but seems to just be swaying back and forth with juliet's and dunya's opinions.

linki Kites! you see it too!

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.

So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.

Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:24 pm I'm actually more suspicious of Spacedaisy right now than Eloh or Juliets. She's added enough to the above finger-pointing to look involved, but seems to just be swaying back and forth with juliet's and dunya's opinions.

linki Kites! you see it too!

I think there is a good chance it is Elo and dunya together, thus my vote wobbling between the two.

And my opinion has not been swayed by either of them. In fact I argued against some of the things said because I think they were flawed reasons.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:26 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:24 pm I'm actually more suspicious of Spacedaisy right now than Eloh or Juliets. She's added enough to the above finger-pointing to look involved, but seems to just be swaying back and forth with juliet's and dunya's opinions.

linki Kites! you see it too!

I think there is a good chance it is Elo and dunya together, thus my vote wobbling between the two.

And my opinion has not been swayed by either of them. In fact I argued against some of the things said because I think they were flawed reasons.

ok, but you say Eloh's role and her lack of using it looks bad. Why? I sort of get it, and I think she looks town for that.

Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

No wait... arrrgh

No, I'm sticking to Elo

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.

So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.

Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.

It looks like you think both Eloh and Dunya would flip town if lynched. We are at mylo I believe? Either way, it does matter who we lynch. I don't want to trade one townie for another just because they seem to be getting tired of the game.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?

Why do you think we're at mylo Luna?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.

So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.

Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.

It looks like you think both Eloh and Dunya would flip town if lynched. We are at mylo I believe? Either way, it does matter who we lynch. I don't want to trade one townie for another just because they seem to be getting tired of the game.

incorrect. What I mean is if I lynch Elo and she flips civ, Im really going to regret not voting dunya.

If I voted dunya and she flips civ, I would be perfectly ok with that for the reasons stated. I would have zero regret.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:32 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?

Probably dunya.

Of the people left I could only see speedchuck, me or dunya doing that. I am the role that is revealing the roles in the OP. I was able to reveal speedchuck's role because of BTSC info. My role has limited helpfulness if baddie roles were given cover.

Additionally, I don't believe juliets is bad because she dropped a hint about the name of her role before her role was revealed or she claimed. I believe 100% she is civ.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:47 pm If we are working against 3 mafia members today is MyLo. A mislynch and we lose.

[mention]juliets[/mention] because of this.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:32 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:29 pm Elo plays specifically for her husband. I don't know see her ignoring that role. I think her teammate has it and didn't use it for those reasons. I think she is hoping claiming it will help her look more civ.

okay, if her teammate had that role and didn't use it, who do you think that would be?

Probably dunya.

No way. None of that theory makes sense.

You know what, I am going to switch my vote back to dunya.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:37 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 1:47 pm If we are working against 3 mafia members today is MyLo. A mislynch and we lose.

@juliets because of this.

Oh ok, got it.

Kites wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:21 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:02 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:53 pm Okay, I can't read all of this...no time. I am the Do it Again role. I don't see how claiming this helps me, but there it is. I have not used it at all this game b/c I have felt it would not help the civs.

I don't believe this.

this is a role crafted by your husband. you played the game because he wanted you to. I don't believe you would just not use the role he spent time creating.

I don’t know about you guys but the parts I bolded here...
daisy’s reasoning here sounds reaaally... wrong. The host is her husband yeah... but she’s not required to use the power, not any more than the other players

It’s late and my English is crappy I can’t put what I’m trying to say in words. Eloh is my top suspect but this daisy post stinks bad bad bad, especially because she seemed reluctant to vote Eloh at first

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 12:23 am Why are people so certain of Elo? I'd rather we had some conversation about this especially since she got railroaded in the past and I don't want to see that done to her again. Let's at least talk this through...

@dunya what do you think of this

It's a bad reason. I believe Eloh's claim. I can see a civilian Eloh choose to not use a role that can hurt townies.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:31 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:04 pm I voted dunya because I feel like she is trying to create suspicion about the role juliets has. It makes no sense. The only way juliets is bad is if her role has a hidden description like Mac's did. Which is entirely possible.

So why did you vote for me?

Why is a silencer or insanifier ok to be town and a stump or "lie detector" can't be bad?

If someone can tell me a logical reason for that, I will vote for whoever the hell you want me to vote for.

Two reasons. 1. because I suspect you are trying to create as much doubt about people as possible because you don't want to end up in a tiny PoE. Juliet's role does not make any sense as a baddie. Jack's had actual utility as a Baddie role. What need does a baddie have for an LD?

2. Because I'm more ok with lynching you and discovering it was a mislynch than Elo because I know you are running yourself into the ground over a game and I don't want to see that happen.

It looks like you think both Eloh and Dunya would flip town if lynched. We are at mylo I believe? Either way, it does matter who we lynch. I don't want to trade one townie for another just because they seem to be getting tired of the game.

incorrect. What I mean is if I lynch Elo and she flips civ, Im really going to regret not voting dunya.

If I voted dunya and she flips civ, I would be perfectly ok with that for the reasons stated. I would have zero regret.

okay, but I would regret it. Hopefully we can avoid that today and lynch mafia.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:38 pm You know what, I am going to switch my vote back to dunya.

I still firmly see juliets as civ as well.

[mention]dunya[/mention] did I miss your role claim?

I really don't understand why I get raked over the coals for having dunya in my POE and daisy comes in and votes her, no questions are asked and she gets a hug.

I don’t believe we will. Do we think Epi started with 3 or 4 baddies? I don’t believe 5. I don’t think it would be balanced and Epi is the king of balance.

I believe 4 which means 2 are left. I don’t believe we have two town cleared mafia left. One of those left in the PoE pool are definitely bad imo.

The only way we could have two Town cleared mafia is if it is Speedchuck and Luna. I don’t believe Speed looks at all bad. Luna has used the words in her role. Lie detect is definitely in it. So unless she is quoting some kindness of cover description, I don’t think she is bad.

Also I’m just realizing I mixed up Juliets and Luna’s roles when I was talking to dunya earlier. Sorry about that.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:44 pm I really don't understand why I get raked over the coals for having dunya in my POE and daisy comes in and votes her, no questions are asked and she gets a hug.

It’s just because she knows I’m doing it because I’m worried about her irl.

Only partially though. I really do think she is a good suspect. She looks to me like she has been trying throughout the game to keep people from beingtiwb cleared, keep suspicion open on as many people as she can.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:44 pm I really don't understand why I get raked over the coals for having dunya in my POE and daisy comes in and votes her, no questions are asked and she gets a hug.

I was hugging her for her reasons of thinking I'm overwhelmed and need to exit the game. You are always hugged by me

Also, because clearly we're w/w. And this is a plot.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:44 pm I really don't understand why I get raked over the coals for having dunya in my POE and daisy comes in and votes her, no questions are asked and she gets a hug.

Don’t let the game upset you. You are one of the most awesome woman both Dunya and I know and we both love you.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:44 pm I really don't understand why I get raked over the coals for having dunya in my POE and daisy comes in and votes her, no questions are asked and she gets a hug.

I was hugging her for her reasons of thinking I'm overwhelmed and need to exit the game. You are always hugged by me

Also, because clearly we're w/w. And this is a plot.

Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:44 pm I really don't understand why I get raked over the coals for having dunya in my POE and daisy comes in and votes her, no questions are asked and she gets a hug.

I was hugging her for her reasons of thinking I'm overwhelmed and need to exit the game. You are always hugged by me

Also, because clearly we're w/w. And this is a plot.

LOLOL!

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.

Ok so lets start from there. Who are the last two mafia?

I won't be voting in the hopes of keeping 7 votes on the poll, but do know that I would prefer a spacedaisy vote today.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm @dunya did I miss your role claim?

Am I on the lynching block?

I only role claim when I think not role claiming hurts town. Today is not that day. Unless you guys are hot potatoing me, I need to see more votes on me and I'll role claim. And you're all gonna be very upset with yourselves.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:50 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm @dunya did I miss your role claim?

Am I on the lynching block?

I only role claim when I think not role claiming hurts town. Today is not that day. Unless you guys are hot potatoing me, I need to see more votes on me and I'll role claim. And you're all gonna be very upset with yourselves.

LOL, you're not on the lynching block (yet), but the way you pushed Eloh to claim I thought you would have already claimed by now. You just did that because she was getting lynched then?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:49 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.

Ok so lets start from there. Who are the last two mafia?

You, speed, Luna and definitely SD because she told me she was bad in our BTSC. I mean a role that flips roles in the open? That's extremely pro-mafia.

LC, Kites and me are above reproach.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:50 pm I won't be voting in the hopes of keeping 7 votes on the poll, but do know that I would prefer a spacedaisy vote today.

This would be a waste. But I wouldn’t be a big loss either. Nothing I do can be helpful in any kind of certain way. I will flip civ. Go on and LD that tonight if you are able.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:52 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:49 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.

Ok so lets start from there. Who are the last two mafia?

You, speed, Luna and definitely SD because she told me she was bad in our BTSC. I mean a role that flips roles in the open? That's extremely pro-mafia.

LC, Kites and me are above reproach.

Lmao, how is that pro-mafia? They know all their roles. We know nothing. They are the ones who have something to hide.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:52 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:50 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:42 pm @dunya did I miss your role claim?

Am I on the lynching block?

I only role claim when I think not role claiming hurts town. Today is not that day. Unless you guys are hot potatoing me, I need to see more votes on me and I'll role claim. And you're all gonna be very upset with yourselves.

LOL, you're not on the lynching block (yet), but the way you pushed Eloh to claim I thought you would have already claimed by now. You just did that because she was getting lynched then?

Yes. Please understand I'm anti-roleclaiming in any alignment. That's important for me.

But I watched Mongoose get lynched on Day 1 of Gossip Girl because she didn't roleclaim. I become pro-roleclaiming in those situations.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:53 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:52 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:49 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:48 pm Come on Annie, we didn't agree to this in BTSC. Way to throw me under the bus.

But yeah. I'm not bad.

Ok so lets start from there. Who are the last two mafia?

You, speed, Luna and definitely SD because she told me she was bad in our BTSC. I mean a role that flips roles in the open? That's extremely pro-mafia.

LC, Kites and me are above reproach.

Lmao, how is that pro-mafia? They know all their roles. We know nothing. They are the ones who have something to hide.

Because mafia don't know my role. Or anyone elses before they willingly roleclaimed.

so [mention]dunya[/mention] you believe daisy could be bad?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:55 pm so @dunya you believe daisy could be bad?

Spacedaisy is one of the best people I know. The goodest of good. The Goodiest.

But she could be mafia in this game, yes.

When Eloh flips town, I won't count till 3 before juliets comes for my head.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:58 pm When Eloh flips town, I won't count till 3 before juliets comes for my head.

You have that all wrong. Why would I think you're mafia if Elo flips town? You've defended her a lot.

Playing the game this way is refreshing, [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]. I get it now. I think dunya has finally understood.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 6:00 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 5:58 pm When Eloh flips town, I won't count till 3 before juliets comes for my head.

You have that all wrong. Why would I think you're mafia if Elo flips town? You've defended her a lot.

And who are you going to look at if Eloh flips town?