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Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:29 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm Aight so if there is just one wolf alive and it's the role peek then the soup is real because mafia have no function to make that fake post.

So in that world it's just Scotty.

In two maf worlds it's Scotty and probably LC. With one of them having a card swapping role as well as some sort of similar role to Seanzie's gambit role and probably also a role that insanifies flips.

Then there is also the missing role to explain why C4 and Listo flipped with the same role.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:31 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm @Lime Coke you sent me your card right?
Yes I ended up with your card.

Tbh I wish I had it earlier.
why? your card is better.

It was better with what I have.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:32 pm**

LC is a supposed doctor and hasn't landed a save on day 6 though the wolves have been targeting doc dodge and asinine targets all game long.

C4 died with a hate boner for LC.

But if LC is a wolf, so too is Scotty anyway.

Scotty is basically mafia in all worlds and then if his flip doesn't end the game we just kill Lime Coke?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:32 pm**

I gotta finish up with work and drive home. I'll see everyone in an hour and a half.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:32 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:19 pm @Lime Coke you sent me your card right?
Yes I ended up with your card.

Tbh I wish I had it earlier.
why? your card is better.
It was better with what I have.

as in a doctor that can kill people if you're insane? lol

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:33 pm**

Oh maybe LC did try to put saves on people but kept killing them lmao.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:34 pm**

@Lime Coke why did you swap your card with mine in particular?

For the record LC has given me a card that gives me a 10% chance of commuting at night.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:50 pm**

Honestly, in a world where there are 2 scum left, we’re dealing with something a tad more orchestrated.

Got this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that the reason mac and Alison are still alive is that they’re wolves so deep, they only come up for air every millennium.

Shoot man I hate being at end game

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:51 pm**

Or, there’s only one wolf. That makes more sense to my little pig brain

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:52 pm**

Why doesn’t Lime Coke just come out and claim? If he were an actual doctor, there wouldn’t be a point in hiding his other roles

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:56 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:51 pm Or, there’s only one wolf. That makes more sense to my little pig brain

If there is only 1 wolf then a townie caused all the n2 card swapping. The only townie it could have been is you.

Also means there never was a flip insanifier. Also means the weird flip stuff from last night was also town caused. Which again would be you.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:56 pm**

And what purpose does a town have to do card swapping or flip tomfoolery.

2 woofs here gang.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:58 pm**

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:58 pm**

I am fine with a nice old school throw and surprise wolf endgamer or two. It's been a while.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:59 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:51 pm Or, there’s only one wolf. That makes more sense to my little pig brain
If there is only 1 wolf then a townie caused all the n2 card swapping. The only townie it could have been is you.

Also means there never was a flip insanifier. Also means the weird flip stuff from last night was also town caused. Which again would be you.

Why could it have only been me? We still don’t know what else Lime Coke or Dolby can do.

I literally haven’t done shit with my role because the conditions haven’t been met. Don’t know what else to tell you

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:01 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:58 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

That you are already willing to throw me to the gallows without Dolby even chiming in is concerning

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:02 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:56 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:51 pm Or, there’s only one wolf. That makes more sense to my little pig brain
If there is only 1 wolf then a townie caused all the n2 card swapping. The only townie it could have been is you.

Also means there never was a flip insanifier. Also means the weird flip stuff from last night was also town caused. Which again would be you.
Why could it have only been me? We still don’t know what else Lime Coke or Dolby can do.

I literally haven’t done shit with my role because the conditions haven’t been met. Don’t know what else to tell you

It just would be if it was a townie. Why would either of them be responsible for card swapping n2 and not just claim it if they were town?

Ok well sorry for throwing.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:03 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:58 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine
That you are already willing to throw me to the gallows without Dolby even chiming in is concerning

I can't see how Dolby says anything that updates my opinion.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:04 pm**

this flipped mafia role has made 0 actions since n2 it would appear? or at least unblocked actions.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:04 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:03 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:58 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine
That you are already willing to throw me to the gallows without Dolby even chiming in is concerning
I can't see how Dolby says anything that updates my opinion.

He might be able to lie detect me

Hello

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:06 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:04 pm this flipped mafia role has made 0 actions since n2 it would appear? or at least unblocked actions.

That’s why I don’t buy that flip

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:06 pm**

rightio well its not like my vote is a death sentence. 4 is hammer.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:07 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:06 pm rightio well its not like my vote is a death sentence. 4 is hammer.

If a town joins you, and if there’s still 2 wolves in, I’m toast

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:09 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:06 pm rightio well its not like my vote is a death sentence. 4 is hammer.
If a town joins you, and if there’s still 2 wolves in, I’m toast

I'm not voting yet and neither is alison from what I remember her saying.
I'm 100% waiting till dolby gets here with his thoughts

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm**

ok, maybe it's time to town case everyone
ugh

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:34 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm ok, maybe it's time to town case everyone
ugh

LC was souped, let themselves get vanillaised and has a dead town godread.

Scotty has been quite towny. Seems like Ender tried pretty hard to kill them.

You are a resurrected townflip.

Alison was kidnapped and has been a pro town voice plus was in the soup. I have mind melded with her a lot and feel she has just been townie.

I was cursed for 2 phases and in soup.

Dolby souped and killed a red check and a wolf.

Dolby is omega level clear. You are all but clear. Alison and I are clear barring wifom. LC is only clear by the soup and without it would be my push today.

C4 died as town with a strong townread on Scotty and a wolf read on Lime Coke. It's worth considering.

LC getting vanillaised may have been just apathy. If there is actually only one wolf left alive and they have no soup kill left then they've been solo since Martin flipped. LC fits the profile there. It would explain why there was no curse or kidnap on that night at least also.

But if LC is a solo wolf we can afford to clear Scotty first anyway. And Scotty is mafia in almost all 2 wolf worlds fmpov.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:36 pm**

LC being wolf would also have motive to keep the rest of the souped players alive.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:38 pm**

The question is if Scotty is town can there be two other wolves.

From my perspective it would require Alison to be mafia. It's not impossible. She does have this level of wolfgame in her range. She did also catch 3 NK immunities in a row in the early game. Would be nice if we snapped those to see if wolves were voting her.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:38 pm**

It would mean the team is Alison and Lime Coke. Alison and I both hard pushed Lime Coke d1. Though admittedly neither of us ended d1 there.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:40 pm**

That said we both ended up on another wolf. But so did flipped wolfy Nanook.

I forgot Nanook was a dead wolf so forget what I said about LC apathy read.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:40 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:34 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:14 pm ok, maybe it's time to town case everyone
ugh
LC was souped, let themselves get vanillaised and has a dead town godread.

Scotty has been quite towny. Seems like Ender tried pretty hard to kill them.

You are a resurrected townflip.

Alison was kidnapped and has been a pro town voice plus was in the soup. I have mind melded with her a lot and feel she has just been townie.

I was cursed for 2 phases and in soup.

Dolby souped and killed a red check and a wolf.

Dolby is omega level clear. You are all but clear. Alison and I are clear barring wifom. LC is only clear by the soup and without it would be my push today.

C4 died as town with a strong townread on Scotty and a wolf read on Lime Coke. It's worth considering.

LC getting vanillaised may have been just apathy. If there is actually only one wolf left alive and they have no soup kill left then they've been solo since Martin flipped. LC fits the profile there. It would explain why there was no curse or kidnap on that night at least also.

But if LC is a solo wolf we can afford to clear Scotty first anyway. And Scotty is mafia in almost all 2 wolf worlds fmpov.

we can only afford to clear scotty first if we're lock solid confident that soup isn't a thing they still can do. Otherwise they soup me, you, dolby and win via parity with alison
The first soup came on D3, during the day, and they traded their NK to do it, yeah?

so another soup, should it exist on a cycle, would be today.

I think the C4/Listo deaths were due to bodyguard and that the rightful kills were me and someone in the soup

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:44 pm**

Every mafia flip didn't have to act in a cycle. So if soup is a joat role it isn't on a cycle. So its gone. The end. No soup.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:46 pm**

which means if was very likely just a real soup and Scotty is outed last mafia

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:50 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:46 pm which means if was very likely just a real soup and Scotty is outed last mafia

Dolby’s absence in this matter is going to give me an aneurysm

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:53 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:46 pm which means if was very likely just a real soup and Scotty is outed last mafia

The soup might be real, but regardless, someone is hiding in it, and burned their soup for the long con.

The soup might be fake, and was out there so someone could hide in it.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:07 pm**

if soup was real and that was fake then we have now gone 6 days with no soup.

Mafia don't have cycle limitations so if soup was a role it could have just simply been followed up the very next night.

If there is a mafia role capable of making a fake soup gambit we have somehow killed 5 wolves except it and the peek is either fake or there are 2 wolves left alive.

Soup was real. It was a 1 shot hail Mary. They missed.

At this point your only out is HK being a wolf dude.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:19 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:34 pm @Lime Coke why did you swap your card with mine in particular?

For the record LC has given me a card that gives me a 10% chance of commuting at night.

I have you town based on what has happened to you, among other things. So I decided to switch with you.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:20 pm**

I got home but I have a decent sized headache right now, might be a migraine, and I can't find my imitrex. I'll try to be on but if the pain is too much I'm gonna have to try to sleep it off.

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:47 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:20 pm I got home but I have a decent sized headache right now, might be a migraine, and I can't find my imitrex. I'll try to be on but if the pain is too much I'm gonna have to try to sleep it off.

Try some flavored Coke to take the edge off

jk hope it passes mate

Actually no not jk, because caffeine has been known to help with that lol

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:55 pm**

For 100% clarity, I received Honeys card N3

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:55 pm**

For 100% clarity, I received Honeys card N3

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:55 pm**

For 100% clarity, I received Honeys card N3

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:02 pm**

For 100% clarity, I received Honeys card N3

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:14 pm**

Did you receive honeys card N3?

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:16 pm**

Oh ffs he’s claiming he was insanified

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:18 pm**

Now I really feel setup. Either Dolby is good and was just the perfect victim for this because he probably can’t do his lie detector or he’s faking the whole thing

Gah

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:21 pm**

For 100% clarity, I received Honeys card N3

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:22 pm**

@Dolby if you are insane quote this post with a vote for guillo

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:24 pm**

wait shit that doesn't work does it

Posted: **Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:24 pm**

For 100% clarity, I received Honeys card N3

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