Re: Hot Fuzz Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:01 pm
You, obviously lol
You, obviously lol
I don't see how that's obvious in the least bit.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:01 pmYou, obviously lol
Are ya putting any actual thought into that read? Cuz' it's like pulling teeth here to get ya to talk about it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:20 pm "Who do you think the easy answer is" is just a silly question while my vote is on you lol, the answer is obvious
yesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
Well, he had little choice, wouldn't you say? He made lots of soft sus on other slots as well, including Ruri & NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pmyesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
okay, sure, oscar thinks he forced wilgy into trying to flip me, and you think wilgy had no choice but to try and flip me. do either or both of these point to me being his wolf partner today?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:25 pmWell, he had little choice, wouldn't you say? He made lots of soft sus on other slots as well, including Ruri & NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pmyesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
In and of themselves, no, but that's not the primary reason for sus on your slot.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:26 pmokay, sure, oscar thinks he forced wilgy into trying to flip me, and you think wilgy had no choice but to try and flip me. do either or both of these point to me being his wolf partner today?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:25 pmWell, he had little choice, wouldn't you say? He made lots of soft sus on other slots as well, including Ruri & NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pmyesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
Not very interested in talking to you about it lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:08 pmAre ya putting any actual thought into that read? Cuz' it's like pulling teeth here to get ya to talk about it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:20 pm "Who do you think the easy answer is" is just a silly question while my vote is on you lol, the answer is obvious
Imagine I am town. Who else do you have as a scum suspect?
Yesterday Wilgy tried to push at Neon and Ruri. I shot those both down. It was only after I encouraged him to look at you that he started going for you because he was basically out of options near EOD.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pmyesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
lol then what is the primary reason? my treatment of wilgy seems to be the huge main driving factor behind this idea.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:27 pmIn and of themselves, no, but that's not the primary reason for sus on your slot.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:26 pmokay, sure, oscar thinks he forced wilgy into trying to flip me, and you think wilgy had no choice but to try and flip me. do either or both of these point to me being his wolf partner today?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:25 pmWell, he had little choice, wouldn't you say? He made lots of soft sus on other slots as well, including Ruri & NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pmyesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
Let's say you are town, talk to me about your current TRs & SRs plz
I do not disagree with your logic. I don't think falcon has been townier than me the past couple days, though. He's kinda slanking and had wilgy start defending him up the ass the day after jack flipped. if wilgy won't bus, and wilgy pushed on neon, ruri, and myself yesterday, but has been defending falcon like he defended jack, then I think the obvious answer is falcon. which is probably what nook is thinking as wellobscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:33 pmYesterday Wilgy tried to push at Neon and Ruri. I shot those both down. It was only after I encouraged him to look at you that he started going for you because he was basically out of options near EOD.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:17 pmyesterday wilgy did not back off. the wagon was like 4 on wilgy 3 on me. it was close. "when you forced him into it"? as in, when you made it clear you thought we were both wolves so wilgy tried to convince you I was in fact a wolf to get the ML on me yesterday before coming into today?
I'm not taking his yesterday hugely into account though because I believe a lot of it was anti-spew. But the day before he also pushed you then backed off when it mattered.
Anyway, like, it's obvious I suspect you, but the fact is it can only be a couple people.
Creature is town.
Neon is spewed town and has gone for Wilgy for days.
Basically to me it has to be you, Falcon, or NANOOK. Pyxxy's death points to you. NANOOK I believe is unpaired with Wilgy and Jack. Also I kind of felt like he believed his read on Wilgy. It'd be a weird W/W approach for him to be like "welp, I'm god-reading Wilgy town, but sure he can go" and his role-results and such are proven. The OP says that both sides have a mix of PRs and vanilla:
Setup
~16 Town vs. 4 Mafia
~Both teams have a mix of power roles and vanilla roles.
I think this implies that the last mafia has to be vanilla, since none of the others were, and NANOOK isn't vanilla.
So I think killing you into Falcon in any order wins the game. Falcon's been townier than you the last couple days imo.
Do you disagree with this? If it's not you or Falcon, who am I misclearing?
altho oscar I read this after day ended and it was very funny b/c that is likely how it would go, yeahobscurity wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:42 pm Conversation From the Maf Chat Probably™:
Wilgy: let's kill lucy
Porscha: okay but that will make you look really bad so i'll have to bus you
Wilgy: alright nw ill push back great theater
*day turns, Porscha tries pushing then gives up, realizes Wilgy is salvageable*: yasssssss king, now gonna save you every day and win in lylo. we'll just keep obscurity alive to keep scum siding.
FOOLS, i wasn't born yesterday
I was never getting off wilgy when he said the word wrong because that is how I was caught as maf the last time I wolfed so now I'm hyper aware of it's existenceDrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:19 pmI suppose in simpler terms, I couldv'e just said unaligned, but I wanted to provide the feeling based reasons at least. I don't think impressions need to be present for that conclusion though. Wolves like that Neon is pushing me.Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:54 pmbeing wrong? b e i n g W R O N G?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:22 pm Also food for thought.
If it is Porscha, Neon isn't a wolf I think.
Porscha's defense of Neon is either from Porscha being wrong or Porscha having TMI on the slot.
However if Porscha does have TMI on the slot and argued that Neon/Sabi was absolutely not a thing, idk why Neon is still alive outside of 'I like Neon pushing Wilgy'.
also don't think I ever gave off the impression that I'd enjoy neon pushing you, doctor
Do you think this is tmi on NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:55 pmI was never getting off wilgy when he said the word wrong because that is how I was caught as maf the last time I wolfed so now I'm hyper aware of it's existenceDrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:19 pmI suppose in simpler terms, I couldv'e just said unaligned, but I wanted to provide the feeling based reasons at least. I don't think impressions need to be present for that conclusion though. Wolves like that Neon is pushing me.Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:54 pmbeing wrong? b e i n g W R O N G?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:22 pm Also food for thought.
If it is Porscha, Neon isn't a wolf I think.
Porscha's defense of Neon is either from Porscha being wrong or Porscha having TMI on the slot.
However if Porscha does have TMI on the slot and argued that Neon/Sabi was absolutely not a thing, idk why Neon is still alive outside of 'I like Neon pushing Wilgy'.
also don't think I ever gave off the impression that I'd enjoy neon pushing you, doctor
thats what everyone said about my read when I used the term "wrong" that time I was caught, so yeah I suppose soNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:59 pmDo you think this is tmi on NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:55 pmI was never getting off wilgy when he said the word wrong because that is how I was caught as maf the last time I wolfed so now I'm hyper aware of it's existenceDrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:19 pmI suppose in simpler terms, I couldv'e just said unaligned, but I wanted to provide the feeling based reasons at least. I don't think impressions need to be present for that conclusion though. Wolves like that Neon is pushing me.Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:54 pmbeing wrong? b e i n g W R O N G?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:22 pm Also food for thought.
If it is Porscha, Neon isn't a wolf I think.
Porscha's defense of Neon is either from Porscha being wrong or Porscha having TMI on the slot.
However if Porscha does have TMI on the slot and argued that Neon/Sabi was absolutely not a thing, idk why Neon is still alive outside of 'I like Neon pushing Wilgy'.
also don't think I ever gave off the impression that I'd enjoy neon pushing you, doctor
So you think this tmis neon town yeah?Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:00 pmthats what everyone said about my read when I used the term "wrong" that time I was caught, so yeah I suppose soNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:59 pmDo you think this is tmi on NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:55 pmI was never getting off wilgy when he said the word wrong because that is how I was caught as maf the last time I wolfed so now I'm hyper aware of it's existenceDrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:19 pmI suppose in simpler terms, I couldv'e just said unaligned, but I wanted to provide the feeling based reasons at least. I don't think impressions need to be present for that conclusion though. Wolves like that Neon is pushing me.Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:54 pmbeing wrong? b e i n g W R O N G?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:22 pm Also food for thought.
If it is Porscha, Neon isn't a wolf I think.
Porscha's defense of Neon is either from Porscha being wrong or Porscha having TMI on the slot.
However if Porscha does have TMI on the slot and argued that Neon/Sabi was absolutely not a thing, idk why Neon is still alive outside of 'I like Neon pushing Wilgy'.
also don't think I ever gave off the impression that I'd enjoy neon pushing you, doctor
I think so yeahNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:00 pmI mean wilgy and jack were willing to vote together
Was falcon around for eod?
My problem with Porscha is it felt like she actively pushed away from Wilgy a lot of days (including yesterday). Then just sort of resigned to it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:04 pm Anyways gamestate sort of points away from bussing, obviously its possible yesterday but, yeah, im inclined to just solve falcon, if he's town then find the busser, but I don't really want to start from the assumption of a wilgy bus yesterday when we know at least 3 members of the team were actively avoiding bussing (and given jack is one of them i think it was probably coordinated given his general tendencies)
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:18 pm Those voting Porscha,
Does Porscha only look W if they are on a team with me on it? All of Porscha's reactions to me while we were bickering does not feel wolf. Porscha should be assessed, but I don't think is the first of remaining wolves we get, if we get there. I think the order of Neon > Ruri > Porscha is correct, otherwise we miss.
Oh my quotes randomly worked.
by the logic I am pirating, stealing, downloading, using by those who found me, yes it is tmiNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:01 pmSo you think this tmis neon town yeah?Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:00 pmthats what everyone said about my read when I used the term "wrong" that time I was caught, so yeah I suppose soNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:59 pmDo you think this is tmi on NeonPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:55 pmI was never getting off wilgy when he said the word wrong because that is how I was caught as maf the last time I wolfed so now I'm hyper aware of it's existenceDrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:19 pmI suppose in simpler terms, I couldv'e just said unaligned, but I wanted to provide the feeling based reasons at least. I don't think impressions need to be present for that conclusion though. Wolves like that Neon is pushing me.Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:54 pmbeing wrong? b e i n g W R O N G?DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:22 pm Also food for thought.
If it is Porscha, Neon isn't a wolf I think.
Porscha's defense of Neon is either from Porscha being wrong or Porscha having TMI on the slot.
However if Porscha does have TMI on the slot and argued that Neon/Sabi was absolutely not a thing, idk why Neon is still alive outside of 'I like Neon pushing Wilgy'.
also don't think I ever gave off the impression that I'd enjoy neon pushing you, doctor
it literally isn't and you know that. lol
I didn't want to shoot my best 4 legged friend behind the shed. it was very tragic and sadobscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:06 pmMy problem with Porscha is it felt like she actively pushed away from Wilgy a lot of days (including yesterday). Then just sort of resigned to it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:04 pm Anyways gamestate sort of points away from bussing, obviously its possible yesterday but, yeah, im inclined to just solve falcon, if he's town then find the busser, but I don't really want to start from the assumption of a wilgy bus yesterday when we know at least 3 members of the team were actively avoiding bussing (and given jack is one of them i think it was probably coordinated given his general tendencies)
I'm caught up lolobscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:11 pm I guess my biggest concern on Falcon is it has felt like the whole mafia team has protected him. Was this necessary for v!Falcon?
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME if you can I'd recommend reading the start of yesterday with some of the Wilgy/Porscha/Falcon stuff. I was trying to quote stuff but it stopped working and I'm multitasking
yeah but pyxxy was also like not poe'd by literally anyone and you know falcon was fucking have a giggle to himself knowing I gave up pushing him multiple times on the basis of being framed only to frame me via pyxxy killobscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:23 pm i'll have to reread your interactions. i don't want this to be something where we flip you and you are actually town and i feel bad for not doing due diligence today/looking at that. on the surface level i just keep thinking of pyxxy's line about you "scared of flipping Wilgy" and how listening to the dead actually helped so much yesterday
fucking. I meant *wilgy not falconPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:25 pmyeah but pyxxy was also like not poe'd by literally anyone and you know falcon was fucking have a giggle to himself knowing I gave up pushing him multiple times on the basis of being framed only to frame me via pyxxy killobscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:23 pm i'll have to reread your interactions. i don't want this to be something where we flip you and you are actually town and i feel bad for not doing due diligence today/looking at that. on the surface level i just keep thinking of pyxxy's line about you "scared of flipping Wilgy" and how listening to the dead actually helped so much yesterday
lol
No, it's a lazy & soft read on my slot, that's trying to use my slank D2 as a springboard read on my entire game play.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:20 pmit literally isn't and you know that. lol
yeah ruri or wilgy are maffalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:59 pmOh don't act like my votes don't change.
And if 1 of the 2 is Maf, well then there's still another Maf out there
you've been slanking like all game not just day 2 imo. this is a meta read and unless I go find games to compare them to I'm not gonna quote post all of your one-two liners where you ask half ass questions or say "hmmm" on repeatfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:28 pmNo, it's a lazy & soft read on my slot, that's trying to use my slank D2 as a springboard read on my entire game play.Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:20 pmit literally isn't and you know that. lol
How have I not had provocations? Give me some examples plz