The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:26 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:24 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:54 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:49 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:09 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:32 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:48 am

What makes you say that?
Ender keeps making half reads on me "Rondo is this but he could be that" then he says this. So he obviously has an opinion and is willing to yeet me so that must mean that he thinks I am a wolf but he instead isnt voting me. So either this is for show and he isnt going to push it because he has TMI or he is fucking around. I intend to find out.
From my pov Ender could very easy push me instead defending me in that thread state, so he is always a good guy
So the point is moot since you have no real input around it? What is your opinion of my slot? Do you have any reason to quote me and ask that question other than just forcing an interaction with me?
Yes I have an input, maybe i should explain it better, your posts in general being Lamist and Ender saying you are suspicious doesn't make Ender wolfy in the slightest, and that i wanted to share.

I thought you are villagery/NPCy in the first day, time will tell if the read is correct

The coloured text, what gives you the idea i need to force an interaction?
I dont know why you need to force an interaction. I am saying it felt forced.
And I take it as a shade. Why do you feel the need to shade me?

Because Ender is shielding you and until he resolves his situation with me you and he are doing w/w theatre where he protects you and no one thinks a wolf would protect their partner that hard d1/2 of this jank game

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:27 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:26 am I mean you said 'vote me'
By all means this is not a villagery thought and it shouldn't be asked by a villager imo.
It rings a bell for me, so I asked why.

Why on earth is this forced?

How is it not a villagery thought? I think that all the time as villager, ergo, villagery thought.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:45 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:27 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:26 am I mean you said 'vote me'
By all means this is not a villagery thought and it shouldn't be asked by a villager imo.
It rings a bell for me, so I asked why.

Why on earth is this forced?
How is it not a villagery thought? I think that all the time as villager, ergo, villagery thought.

I don't remember from villa you to say it tbh but maybe i forgot so I will not argue against self meta

So you claim a w/w read for me and Ender just because he is town reading me?
What read do you have for me independently and why?
What read do you have for him, independently, and why?

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:48 am**

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:59 am
katze wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:14 pm who the heck is tutuu

Spoiler: show

Cute haha!

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:50 am**

I can't see that video

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:18 am**

risiinq- wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:37 am this day is a slow one

i take reading isos upon request and i might give an opinion i just dont know whose to open

I suggest Scotty and Sloonei hmmyes

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:44 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:14 pm Okay you can stop posting Walrus entries now. Thanks for that but it was really just to bait people into posting so ... yeah.

Found this in HKs Iso. I am dissapointed

Probably nothing AI in what I skimmed, Hk goes to the upper part of the null.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:23 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:14 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:29 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:38 pm What is the minumum of posts?
oh oh

Where is your head at Guillo?

You are never concerned about the minimum when you rand town, that is all

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:26 am**

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:17 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:08 am I am at work so I will not answer at that wall in detail Iaafr, and it's not like i read it throughly but you are right and i didn't read more than 1% from the game

Maybe I didn't see you wolfing but certainly i saw you bouncing ideas in games and I don't care about any other opinion than mine so for me was important to vote you to understand where your head really is. And your tone is ok

[VOTE: unvote Iaafr] aubergine

On phone and unable to make the VC now, sorry about that

I will tell you how this idiotic wagon on me will go:
- nanook will pretend i low posted so i am a wolf for lol meta because that's the only thing he's doing as either alignment
- hk will sheep nanook as either alignment
- rabbit is stubnorn enough to tunnel me to death
- guillo will support this trend no matter his alignment
- Ranmilia, we don't know each other i don't care about their vote
- chelsea, we know each other, i don't care about her vote
- idk who else is voting me, but the reaosns above can be valid for everyone

I will be here after work, ama but ping me because i will not read all the thread
What's up Michelle. My vote is still on you because of this post, because this sort of behavior is antitown enough that it makes me not care what role PM you received. A player who's saying things like "you're all idiots and i don't care about your votes and i will not read the thread and i don't care about anyone i don't personally know" -- is a player that I am absolutely willing to take behind the woodshed and Old Yeller, because they're a liability to town regardless of their role PM.

But hey the game continues. It's not too late to change things. If you want to stay alive and help town, what I need from you is to take some deep breaths, expel that attitude from your system and start working together. You're reaching out here which is a good start, I like that.

Who do you think might be an actual wolf? Any players you'd like to discuss?

Ranmilla is soooo town

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:29 am**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:23 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:14 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:29 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:38 pm What is the minumum of posts?
oh oh

Where is your head at Guillo?
You are never concerned about the minimum when you rand town, that is all

I didn't ask for myself, i saw ppl claiming they reached a number of posts and I wanted to check if that’s the minimum. Now i read, is 5 posts.

I asked in general, i'm curious to know what's your strongest wolf read

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:22 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:31 am Nutella also loves to experiment with her food and music. She's an experimental girl. When you see this game, and see something new - playing as an NPC; a novelty - and you're nutella, you just have to try it out!

so true bestie

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:28 pm**

ender wagon isn't taking off which just makes me more confident I'm right

cmon ppl

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:28 pm**

#d2apoc

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:32 pm**

[VOTE: DeeZees] aubergine

Guy sitting to my left literally started meowing yesterday.
He never meowed before.
Maybe cause of who was sitting in front of him, or cause I was contaminating his head. Or someone else perhaps.

Either way, ignorance is bliss and bliss sucks

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:33 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:28 pm ender wagon isn't taking off which just makes me more confident I'm right

cmon ppl

I think Guillo is either town or NPC

With this level of activity and 2 top wagons of town/NPC what makes you have this conclusion?

Cmon Nut

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:34 pm**

the format makes it inherently many times more difficult than usual to wagon actual mafia

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:35 pm**

cmon michelle

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:36 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:34 pm the format makes it inherently many times more difficult than usual to wagon actual mafia

Who's actual mafia? How do you read them?

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:38 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:28 pm ender wagon isn't taking off which just makes me more confident I'm right

cmon ppl

I read one page of his ISO, and you are right. He's mafia. He does the "haha I'm here haha oh wow I'm so not worried about anything look at my guud toan haha" thing.

I really want to be right about a read this game. That was kind of my whole goal. And this is it - Ender is mafia.

And if he isn't, I was mafia siding

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:40 pm**

@nutella Do you have the vote count?

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:40 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:38 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:28 pm ender wagon isn't taking off which just makes me more confident I'm right

cmon ppl
I read one page of his ISO, and you are right. He's mafia. He does the "haha I'm here haha oh wow I'm so not worried about anything look at my guud toan haha" thing.

I really want to be right about a read this game. That was kind of my whole goal. And this is it - Ender is mafia.

And if he isn't, I was mafia siding

You make me go an read the Iso

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:43 pm**

I want to murder god

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:46 pm**

Wait. People are voting like Michelle and Guillo and stuff. Is that only NPCs fucking around? Cause those are clearly harmless and not mafia.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:48 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:46 pm Wait. People are voting like Michelle and Guillo and stuff. Is that only NPCs fucking around? Cause those are clearly harmless and not mafia.

Yes, that's why is so quiet...

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:54 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:28 pm#d2apoc

i'm too lazy to get the vc but i'm down tbh

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:56 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:40 pm @nutella Do you have the vote count?

not atm

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:58 pm**

several ppl have voted since the last vc was pasted so i'm just gonna wait for lumi's script to come around on the guitar

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:58 pm**

just waitin for it to come around

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:03 pm**

Ok, well

Ender is mafia.

So do with that what you will

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm**

Rando mech catchup for the thread since I'm realizing people might not have realized -

There's no reason I can think of for the mafia deleter to have held their shot. Town deleter might hold but mafia certainly never does. So with the night deaths being only TSP, that means mafia deleter was used, and failed.

Which means mafia for sure know a real town, and it's someone they thought was somewhat threatening, enough to try and delete last night. (Plus also their scout result, which we can't tell anything about, but they might know a second real town as well.)

Which means they now have at least one NK lined up going forward, plus scout results, so infosec on who is and is not an NPC is not as important as it was on d1.

Though keep in mind, it's still not incredibly beneficial to town to go ham on it - mafia can "solve" NPCness naturally and hide easily that way, for those who hunt by looking for TMI and "natural solving".

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:14 pm**

isn't it possible they just both targeted tsp

would be wild but

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:14 pm**

wait or am i misunderstanding it again

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:15 pm**

i’ve just been skimming a bit and i dunno why people wolf read michelle

also guillo seems like an NPC that thinks it’s such a mibdfuck to pretend to be a wolf

i agree with dizzy, these wagons seem bad

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:17 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:14 pm isn't it possible they just both targeted tsp

would be wild but

Mafia would not target the nightkill and deleter on the same player, the NK is guaranteed to work regardless of anything.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:20 pm**

oh i get it

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:21 pm**

Guillo is pretty obviously NPC, I don't mind saying this since mafia are never ever killing there now. He's a safe vote if we for some reason want to punt and guarantee we don't vote out a real town. I don't think that's a great way to go though.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:23 pm**

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:21 pm Guillo is pretty obviously NPC, I don't mind saying this since mafia are never ever killing there now. He's a safe vote if we for some reason want to punt and guarantee we don't vote out a real town. I don't think that's a great way to go though.

yeah it’s pretty obvious lol

also fwiw i think you should look elsewhere, michelle doesn’t really seem wolfy to me

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:24 pm**

How do you know I'm technically on Michelle but you don't know what I've actually said about that vote on the last couple of pages

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:26 pm**

Oh thank the syndigods 250 was the threshold. My true nefarious plot with all this posting was to not have to see "Stool pigeon" anymore because stool means poop and it bugged me.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:26 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:03 pm Ok, well

Ender is mafia.

So do with that what you will

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

He the false reality dude ? The sig is nonsensical as is but I don‘t mind voting with you.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:26 pm**

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:24 pm How do you know I'm technically on Michelle but you don't know what I've actually said about that vote on the last couple of pages

well i know it’s at least in part a policy vote but i thought you’re also wolf reading her (or were)

if you still are, i don’t think you should be

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:27 pm**

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:26 pm Oh thank the syndigods 250 was the threshold. My true nefarious plot with all this posting was to not have to see "Stool pigeon" anymore because stool means poop and it bugged me.

Literally my thought in my first game here

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:28 pm**

Half of you metareaders say that, the other half say she's wolf. Talk to the actual metareaders, for my part I'm now on "if this is truly her town meta that makes me want to kill her more"

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:30 pm**

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:28 pm Half of you metareaders say that, the other half say she's wolf. Talk to the actual metareaders, for my part I'm now on "if this is truly her town meta that makes me want to kill her more"

Why?

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:30 pm**

alright, i mean i don’t really care to policy someone in this sort of game and i don’t even understand why you think she deserves to be policied but i don’t hope to convince you lol

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:34 pm**

And my meta doesn't exist

I play like I have time, i low post when I can't stay much itt, I don't read the game if I can't because it’s not the second job, it's a game, and the way you claim you want to policy me because i don't play like you consider I should is uncalled for.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:35 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:30 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:28 pm Half of you metareaders say that, the other half say she's wolf. Talk to the actual metareaders, for my part I'm now on "if this is truly her town meta that makes me want to kill her more"
Why?

I haven't seen any towns win by refusing to work together, and I don't care to encourage or reward that sort of posting by townreading it, giving it passes, or letting other people meta townread it. Please respect your fellow gamers.

Let's stop talking about this now as we're spirit wagoning Ender now anyway.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:38 pm**

i don’t really feel like iso’ing ender and suck at reading him anyway but if people who have read wanna kill him, sure ig

i feel like i always think he’s wolfy regardless of alignment and he gets mislunched all the time lately for whatever that’s worth, but i mean he could still be a wolf

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:39 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:28 pm ender wagon isn't taking off which just makes me more confident I'm right

cmon ppl

what even is this argument lmao

I hate it already in normal games because when I wolf half the time even I don't get what I'm doing but like there's 4 wolves out of like 40 people, plus wolves are somewhat incentivized to not really do a lot, I don't think they have thread presence at all as a team, we're just pushing collective buttons here.

Posted: **Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:40 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:15 pm i’ve just been skimming a bit and i dunno why people wolf read michelle

also guillo seems like an NPC that thinks it’s such a mibdfuck to pretend to be a wolf

i agree with dizzy, these wagons seem bad

Shocking! =p

Let's kill Ender \o/

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