sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:15 pm
Just for the heck of it looked at rej and how he treated mac. He was pretty adamant that mac was bad and should be shot. (Super bus for town cred?) And then there was this post. Wouldn't it be funny if it was true and not just because he was unsure about spelling or something?
If someone already has made this point before I came in I apologize. Just found it amusing.
Hey don't apologize, it's nice to have you take a look at things with fresh eyes!
I agree with you and I forgot about this post. The readlist looks like a nice salad
If you agree then you're agreeing you're rejs teammate as well haha
Like mac asked if the question marks denoted rej's teammates and he said yes. One of them was confirmed to be an alien so I thought it would have been funny if he was being serious, but making it sound like a joke. The other question mark was on you.
On a scale of 1 to 10 how trolly is Rej?
I've never been asked this question before. Uhhh from the first time I've encountered him I've always found him to be difficult to read. He always ends up being mafia when I play with him though it seems except maybe like once. So on a scale of you to mac he's like a 7.654321 and a half.
I'm a little lower than that but I think my trolling is often too subtle and people don't get it. Such is life.
Sometimes life does seem all planned out, like there's no choice in the matter. But that's just an illusion.
~Darren Shan~
Alrighty so Dunya is lock alien because I did not die. The only reason I am alive is because we've been diametrically opposed and she has to leave me alive. If she wasn't pushing me I'd be dead after the Soneji and Rej flips which are the most clearing things in a game where nobody can really actually be cleared. She's carrying my lard ass to late game hoping nutella flips her read on me is my guess. Which is probably going to happen eventually and then Dunya will be all smug about it in post.
The truth is that ever since Nutella shot rej I've been largely ignoring this game I cannot deny that. I have been multigaming way outside of my comfort zone and we got two consecutive scum flips. It felt like an easier game than the others. If I was mafia in this game I'd probably have given it more of my attention tbh.
As wifom as it is and irrelevant in this game. I don't often bus. I especially don't bus Soneji there. I don't kill new players n1. If I do bus I don't just meme bus. I get cred. I have been townie enough. If you read my ISO it will be obvious.
Today isn't lylo so [mention]nutella[/mention] if shooting me firms up your worlds it must be done today.
Dunya said something that fmpov was a scumslip. When she said "mac is compatible with everyone". I am literally compatible with nobody and Dunya would see that if she was town.
If Dunya was town, she'd have sensible reads. None of her analysis has come from any place aside from self preservation. It is literally her scum meta.
After doing a ton of situation modelling, I came to the conclusion that saving someone that is universal townread gives us more mechanical freedom and gives us info.
However, we still only have one misfire possible. If there's 2 misfires back to back we're losing no matter what at night 6. (Also, we almost never lose because we don't have protections anymore)
If we shoot an alien before N6, we have more misfire possibilities though.
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:47 pm
After doing a ton of situation modelling, I came to the conclusion that saving someone that is universal townread gives us more mechanical freedom and gives us info.
However, we still only have one misfire possible. If there's 2 misfires back to back we're losing no matter what at night 6. (Also, we almost never lose because we don't have protections anymore)
If we shoot an alien before N6, we have more misfire possibilities though.
You are talking about how town can't win with back to back kills and then in brackets say 'we almost never lose" which would be true for the aliens, not for the town.
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:37 pm
adjusting reads lets see
town:
nut
dizzy
tutuu
tsp
town lean:
proto
epi
carotte
mac
alison
idk:
nanook
dunya
lc
scum:
rej
this is not really ordered except where it is i feel like my reads are not that ground breaking and idk if that should concern me. it wouldnt super surprise me if im wrong on one of the town leans. i highly doubt there is scum at the very top though
Hally's last townlist. Tbh she actually firmed up her town read on me after this. I killed a new player I love playing with who was townreading me n1.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:57 pm
Rej spewed me town too but ppl gonna tinfoil i guess
This is flat out horse shit.
I have watched you time after time. You don't give a shit about how you look in the thread, and you are completely comfortable having your team fuck you over, are you not?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:57 pm
Rej spewed me town too but ppl gonna tinfoil i guess
This is flat out horse shit.
I have watched you time after time. You don't give a shit about how you look in the thread, and you are completely comfortable having your team fuck you over, are you not?
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:53 pm
you asking nutella to replace sabie with mac was a total WTF moment for me tbh. felt very slimy.
protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:41 pm
Nothing I have seen is AI.
come on now lol. did you iso her and come to the conclusion NONE of her posts or communication with Rej/Soneji or even her mechanical analysis which you're a fan of can be AI? i cannot believe that you are unable to weigh in on even her mechanical analysis.
protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:41 pm
I cant trust what you say about Mac because you might not be telling me the truth.
and yet you trusted the fact that mac cannot have been involved with killing hally because i said it's probably not a syndicat who did that. so you're believing one thing i said, but refusing to believe the other. this is why i don't believe you and think you're picking and choosing what to believe based on the same criteria but telling me now you can't do that.
protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:41 pm
Psychology is not my strong element in mafia because I am not good at predicting people's behaviour in any given situation. Theres no reason why my weak opinion on it is better than consensus. Id prefer to use the consensus take on it than my own.
this is a game of offering opinions and reading people. every consensus starts with an opinion after all!
plus if you don't offer opinions on people beyond hard mechanics and "logic", how can we read you? also, you come across as a very confident player so your self-description of it being a "weak opinion" feels like you're intentionally downplaying yourself for sympathy and emotion.
protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:41 pm
My entire recent read on Alison is based on inactivity bias.
when do you plan on actually forming a read on an active player in the game?
protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:41 pm
I feel like you read where I was telling Dizzy that the more they scumread me, the more town I will read them, and are trying to apply this on me with a delay.
i don't care if you town read me or not. my goal in this game is to be townread first by epi (personal goal, don't @ me) and then by nutella.
you yourself have stressed that it's only nutella's opinion that matters, so why do you think i've shifted on you? logically, why would maf dunya push a universally town read proto instead of continuing with mac, carot, alison, tsp?
dunya, do you honestly think protocultures is alien? Why is my opinion of you so important but my opinion of protoctultures worthless (apparently)?
Regardless of whether or not I have no issue with my teammates attacking me, Rej is clearly not bussing. He's given himself no recourse to back off the read. It's a slank weak push on a weakened slot.
Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:17 am
Hey guys I am stuck on page 8 for now. And i would place my vote on Mac/Drago slot for sure now.
GTH: never seen Mac out of place like this (skimmed over him)
[VOTE:
Mac] aubergine
Meh pages also came faster than I am able to read at work xD you guys know the shit. My PoE will arrive later than usual. If details ping me, Ill tryna quote them.
Soneji also had me at the bottom of his readslist. The mafia team plan was clearly to just get me out off the drago shit. They both died instead. It's asinine and I hope I don't need to explain it anymore tbh.
the best thing proto has going for him fmpov is that he's been made to look bad by almost every flip
I think it's between Carot and TSP for Dunya's partner. I don't think it's Alison because Alison/mac worlds have been pushed too much and it's likely that the mafia have been building to trying to convince nutella of that.
