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Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm**

By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:33 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:33 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:32 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:30 pm Where is TSP. Where is Abigail. Where is illario. Does illario even exist. Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego.
Idk, I'm keeping my vote on TSP and sadly it's gonna end up being a wasted vote because everyone else is like "yeah TSP might be scum but I'd rather policy Dizzy/vote pyxxy for spanking" and it's actually pinging the hell out of me
there's 4 on him in the poll right now lol
5 'cause secret vote

I keep forgetting he has a secret vote but I assume that came from ilario getting wagoned out in the other thread, similarly to how Abbi had an extra vote yesterday and Porscha got voted out

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one

yes. The only wagon that was alive until bereft actually moved was pyxxy

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm**

Dizzy is also the slot I have the least reason to townread overall, so yeah.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one
yes. The only wagon that was alive until bereft actually moved was pyxxy

We still have 23 minutes, lest not waste 'em

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:38 pm**

*let's

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:38 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm Dizzy is also the slot I have the least reason to townread overall, so yeah.

I have the least reason to have any kind of read at all on Dizzy, that's why I think a Dizzy yeet is a waste of time, regardless of my read on him

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:38 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one
yes. The only wagon that was alive until bereft actually moved was pyxxy
We still have 23 minutes, lest not waste 'em

how are they wasted? I am using mine. What do you propose we do instead?

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one
yes. The only wagon that was alive until bereft actually moved was pyxxy
We still have 23 minutes, lest not waste 'em

I am going to waste them and go to sleep because I have a regular job

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm Dizzy is also the slot I have the least reason to townread overall, so yeah.
I have the least reason to have any kind of read at all on Dizzy, that's why I think a Dizzy yeet is a waste of time, regardless of my read on him

It won't be a waste if they flip town, and even if they don't at least we won't be stuck with 'em in LYLO

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm Dizzy is also the slot I have the least reason to townread overall, so yeah.
I have the least reason to have any kind of read at all on Dizzy, that's why I think a Dizzy yeet is a waste of time, regardless of my read on him
It won't be a waste if they flip town, and even if they don't at least we won't be stuck with 'em in LYLO

*wolf

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm**

*wastes time*
Good night lol

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one
yes. The only wagon that was alive until bereft actually moved was pyxxy
We still have 23 minutes, lest not waste 'em
I am going to waste them and go to sleep because I have a regular job

night wwa, see you in dead chat

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm**

ADHD, everyone

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:40 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one
yes. The only wagon that was alive until bereft actually moved was pyxxy
We still have 23 minutes, lest not waste 'em
I am going to waste them and go to sleep because I have a regular job
night wwa, see you in dead chat

Well that's gonna depend on if I get paired with someone in the other thread and then if they die, I guess

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:40 pm**

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

ok 19 dollar fortnite card
WHO WANTS IT

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:40 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:37 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:35 pm By the logic that the Dizzy wagon is "dead", so is every wagon besides the TSP one
yes. The only wagon that was alive until bereft actually moved was pyxxy
We still have 23 minutes, lest not waste 'em
I am going to waste them and go to sleep because I have a regular job
night wwa, see you in dead chat
Well that's gonna depend on if I get paired with someone in the other thread and then if they die, I guess

HAH, I keep forgetting about second thread. See you over there if you're not eliminated

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm**

If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm**

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:40 pm [VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

ok 19 dollar fortnite card
WHO WANTS IT

I don't play fortnite so nah
Staying where I am

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm**

Dizzy wagon alive yay!

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm**

@pyxxy why didnt you answer me?

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.

Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me

Yeah, doubt they would have let ted submit the kill when they were CW anyway

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me

Particularly because if there's a goon, they would've performed the kill, and Ted claimed PR. A mafia goon can claim town PR without specifying, but they probably wouldn't say they won't talk about it coincidentally on the night they were targeted with a block.

Idk, I could be barking up the wrong tree, and if so, I am really really sorry. But at least you have my info and hopefully you will be able to read Ted much more clearly depending on his responses.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm**

I will say, if I die tonight, pyxxy is perhaps worth looking into. But now that I said it out loud, it's now WIFOM lol

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me
Particularly because if there's a goon, they would've performed the kill, and Ted claimed PR. A mafia goon can claim town PR without specifying, but they probably wouldn't say they won't talk about it coincidentally on the night they were targeted with a block.

Idk, I could be barking up the wrong tree, and if so, I am really really sorry. But at least you have my info and hopefully you will be able to read Ted much more clearly depending on his responses.

Not sure a vanilla mafioso would claim PR when it can be disproven by any motion detecting role. But eh

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm**

oh fuck, I almost forgot about thread doom scrolling memes.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm**

Stone nothing huh.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me
Particularly because if there's a goon, they would've performed the kill, and Ted claimed PR. A mafia goon can claim town PR without specifying, but they probably wouldn't say they won't talk about it coincidentally on the night they were targeted with a block.

Idk, I could be barking up the wrong tree, and if so, I am really really sorry. But at least you have my info and hopefully you will be able to read Ted much more clearly depending on his responses.
Not sure a vanilla mafioso would claim PR when it can be disproven by any motion detecting role. But eh

Although if that's the case, blocking 'em benefits them lol

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:46 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me
Yeah, doubt they would have let ted submit the kill when they were CW anyway

I actually hesitated in targeting him for that reason, but because I risked blocking town if I was wrong, I just went for the player I thought had the highest scum equity at the time. And yeah, I'm sorry to say that my snapread after Robyn flipped town was that Ted was scum. I didn't have a very good basis for it.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm**

Although it would be really funny if ted was actually SK and you blocked them. Probably not worth considering however

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm I will say, if I die tonight, pyxxy is perhaps worth looking into. But now that I said it out loud, it's now WIFOM lol

Pyxxy would be looked into regardless, at the rate we're going.
I feel like I might as well stay up till eod at this point since I've been putting off going to sleep for like two hours now lol. A couple more minutes isn't gonna kill me.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm**

think i'm just going to stay on tsp

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:48 pm**

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm think i'm just going to stay on tsp

Why over Dizzy?

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:48 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me
Particularly because if there's a goon, they would've performed the kill, and Ted claimed PR. A mafia goon can claim town PR without specifying, but they probably wouldn't say they won't talk about it coincidentally on the night they were targeted with a block.

Idk, I could be barking up the wrong tree, and if so, I am really really sorry. But at least you have my info and hopefully you will be able to read Ted much more clearly depending on his responses.
Not sure a vanilla mafioso would claim PR when it can be disproven by any motion detecting role. But eh

I think last year I randed motion detector or similar two or three games in a row and then I haven't seen a proper motion detector role since, lol, I completely forgot that was a thing.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:50 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm Although it would be really funny if ted was actually SK and you blocked them. Probably not worth considering however

I really hope there isn't an SK because an SK in a thread with 13 players is kinda weird
For that matter I could block a wolf kill and the sk kill could go through (doubt this, though) or the wolves and sk could double on a target
But yeah I think if there are 3ps in the game, they're not SKs

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm**

Currently 3 votes on dizzy and 4 on TSP

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm**

WAIT! I just had a huge idea that I think we are playing sub optimally

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:48 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm think i'm just going to stay on tsp
Why over Dizzy?

gut. dizzy is frustrating for not really playing but that doesn't tell me much about his alignment. tsp is demonstrably playing and i think the way he has been playing comes as working toward a mafia win condition.

if dizzy is scum and tsp is town i'll eat shit for it, willing to take that risk

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:48 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me
Particularly because if there's a goon, they would've performed the kill, and Ted claimed PR. A mafia goon can claim town PR without specifying, but they probably wouldn't say they won't talk about it coincidentally on the night they were targeted with a block.

Idk, I could be barking up the wrong tree, and if so, I am really really sorry. But at least you have my info and hopefully you will be able to read Ted much more clearly depending on his responses.
Not sure a vanilla mafioso would claim PR when it can be disproven by any motion detecting role. But eh
I think last year I randed motion detector or similar two or three games in a row and then I haven't seen a proper motion detector role since, lol, I completely forgot that was a thing.

Well, that, plus Tracker, Follower, Reporter, etc.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm**

@Porscha @nutella who do you think are the wolves in the other thread?

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm**

Where on earth are all the people being voted.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm WAIT! I just had a huge idea that I think we are playing sub optimally

You don't say...

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:52 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm WAIT! I just had a huge idea that I think we are playing sub optimally

Do tell

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:52 pm**

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:50 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm Although it would be really funny if ted was actually SK and you blocked them. Probably not worth considering however
I really hope there isn't an SK because an SK in a thread with 13 players is kinda weird
For that matter I could block a wolf kill and the sk kill could go through (doubt this, though) or the wolves and sk could double on a target
But yeah I think if there are 3ps in the game, they're not SKs

how fucked would it be if they could only kill in the opposite thread and shared with someone else in the other thread and if one gets eliminated they both do kinda vibes. That feels balanced and sufficently JJJ

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:52 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm @Porscha @nutella who do you think are the wolves in the other thread?

nutella's out of the game, she won't help you

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:53 pm**

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:51 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:48 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:45 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:44 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:41 pm If tedxtr was blocked, at least that means they didn't kill Mac for what it's worth.
Yeah I know that
But with all wolves in this thread currently alive, that means almost nothing to me
Particularly because if there's a goon, they would've performed the kill, and Ted claimed PR. A mafia goon can claim town PR without specifying, but they probably wouldn't say they won't talk about it coincidentally on the night they were targeted with a block.

Idk, I could be barking up the wrong tree, and if so, I am really really sorry. But at least you have my info and hopefully you will be able to read Ted much more clearly depending on his responses.
Not sure a vanilla mafioso would claim PR when it can be disproven by any motion detecting role. But eh
I think last year I randed motion detector or similar two or three games in a row and then I haven't seen a proper motion detector role since, lol, I completely forgot that was a thing.
Well, that, plus Tracker, Follower, Reporter, etc.

Ok yeah
But like I said
I don't think Ted was lying about being PR, I just don't think the claim makes him towny or wolfy
It's the "not answering questions" part around the claim that bothers me

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:53 pm**

traffic still driving eta 2 min eod

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:53 pm**

[VOTE: dizzy ] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:54 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:52 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:50 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:47 pm Although it would be really funny if ted was actually SK and you blocked them. Probably not worth considering however
I really hope there isn't an SK because an SK in a thread with 13 players is kinda weird
For that matter I could block a wolf kill and the sk kill could go through (doubt this, though) or the wolves and sk could double on a target
But yeah I think if there are 3ps in the game, they're not SKs
how fucked would it be if they could only kill in the opposite thread and shared with someone else in the other thread and if one gets eliminated they both do kinda vibes. That feels balanced and sufficently JJJ

Oh man, and then NKA would be useless EXCEPT if people in opposite threads analyze the NK in their original thread, relay it to their post-death thread, and then it gets relayed back by a townie who dies in that thread and goes to the other one.
Ngl I've seen a game like that before. It's plausible.

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