The Hobbit Mafia: Day 12

#3101

Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
juliets wrote: Spacedaicy, i did not survive a lynch - i survived a NK.
Where is Epi saying Bullz is a wood elf?
He said last night that he used to think I was an Elf but that apparently that's not possible any more and now I'm definitely Smaug due to the infallible logic that 'someone has to be'.
He thinks your bad basically and he has stated why. He thinks of all he bads remaining you are Smaug.

That's what I think he's thinking.
He hasn't really said why. Llama said why. Epig just says I'm bad because he says so.

No....he had a huge post about why you were bad. Adverbs or adjectives or something

#3102

Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
juliets wrote: Spacedaicy, i did not survive a lynch - i survived a NK.
Where is Epi saying Bullz is a wood elf?
He said last night that he used to think I was an Elf but that apparently that's not possible any more and now I'm definitely Smaug due to the infallible logic that 'someone has to be'.
He thinks your bad basically and he has stated why. He thinks of all he bads remaining you are Smaug.

That's what I think he's thinking.
He hasn't really said why. Llama said why. Epig just says I'm bad because he says so.
No....he had a huge post about why you were bad. Adverbs or adjectives or something

All of that came after he'd already decided I was Smaug. He has never explained where he originally pulled the idea out of *cough*his ass*cough* or why specifically he thinks that I'm Smaug rather than a baddie.

#3103

juliets wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:RIPIYWG K4J

Juliets do you know how you survived the lynch?
Yes I do.

Spacedaisy wrote:Frankly, I am surprised k4j was killed by Smaug. I kind of had him on my list of possible Smaug suspects...

Epi, why do you not think Bullz is a wood elf now? He was pretty protective of Boogs, wasn't he? I would say between Juliets and Bullz one of the two is probably Smaug given their lynch survivals.
Spacedaicy, i did not survive a lynch - i survived a NK.
Where is Epi saying Bullz is a wood elf?

Lol, Derp. I am super tired. Can you tell?

#3104

juliets wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:RIPIYWG K4J

Juliets do you know how you survived the lynch?
Yes I do.

Spacedaisy wrote:Frankly, I am surprised k4j was killed by Smaug. I kind of had him on my list of possible Smaug suspects...

Epi, why do you not think Bullz is a wood elf now? He was pretty protective of Boogs, wasn't he? I would say between Juliets and Bullz one of the two is probably Smaug given their lynch survivals.
Spacedaicy, i did not survive a lynch - i survived a NK.
Where is Epi saying Bullz is a wood elf?

In response to your second question. He is not saying Bullz is a wood elf. He is saying Bullz is Smaug. But Bullz made a comment that I thought said something about why did you think I was a wood elf, and why do you not think that anymore. I would like the answer to those questions too personally.

#3105

Bullzeye wrote: All of that came after he'd already decided I was Smaug. He has never explained where he originally pulled the idea out of *cough*his ass*cough* or why specifically he thinks that I'm Smaug rather than a baddie.

You cannot know when he decided what. You are not privy to his thoughts.

#3106

Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote: All of that came after he'd already decided I was Smaug. He has never explained where he originally pulled the idea out of *cough*his ass*cough* or why specifically he thinks that I'm Smaug rather than a baddie.
You cannot know when he decided what. You are not privy to his thoughts.

I can infer it based on his posts. He was saying I was Smaug all day before I made the posts he quoted in the post you referred to earlier. Most of the ones he quoted for that were made after the lynch, or near the end. He'd already been raving about me being Smaug. Therefore he'd already decided it and the post you are talking about had nothing to do with his original "suspicion".

#3107

Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote: All of that came after he'd already decided I was Smaug. He has never explained where he originally pulled the idea out of *cough*his ass*cough* or why specifically he thinks that I'm Smaug rather than a baddie.
You cannot know when he decided what. You are not privy to his thoughts.
I can infer it based on his posts. He was saying I was Smaug all day before I made the posts he quoted in the post you referred to earlier. Most of the ones he quoted for that were made after the lynch, or near the end. He'd already been raving about me being Smaug. Therefore he'd already decided it and the post you are talking about had nothing to do with his original "suspicion".

You may suspect that but you can't know that. But maybe you are right because if he originally thought you a wood elf and then Smaug he obviously had you penned as some sort of "indie" role. I mean in a way "rogue" is indy.

#3108

Ok, so here is where my brain is. Reading the role descriptions of the bard and Smaug it basically says that the bard holds the only weapon ever to penetrate Smaug's armor. This gives me the impression not that Smaug will be unlynchable, but that he will likely be unNKable. I can't imagine someone creating a role so powerful that it be both unlynchable and unNKable. I don't think Bllz is Smaug. I have an idea about who I think it might be but I need to research a little more before I post the case. Plus, to be frank, I think it is more imperative at this point that we get a goblin before their numbers are too strong for us and we lose to them.

#3109

Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote: All of that came after he'd already decided I was Smaug. He has never explained where he originally pulled the idea out of *cough*his ass*cough* or why specifically he thinks that I'm Smaug rather than a baddie.
You cannot know when he decided what. You are not privy to his thoughts.
I can infer it based on his posts. He was saying I was Smaug all day before I made the posts he quoted in the post you referred to earlier. Most of the ones he quoted for that were made after the lynch, or near the end. He'd already been raving about me being Smaug. Therefore he'd already decided it and the post you are talking about had nothing to do with his original "suspicion".
You may suspect that but you can't know that. But maybe you are right because if he originally thought you a wood elf and then Smaug he obviously had you penned as some sort of "indie" role. I mean in a way "rogue" is indy.

You aren't making any sense now. The 'huge post about why I'm bad' that you're referring to contained exclusively posts that came after the day in which Epi accused me of being Smaug. Unless he's a time traveller there's no way any of them had any influence on his belief that I was Smaug. He had already said he believed that before I made any of the posts he used later. Epig has never explained what originally caused him to think I'm bad and I find it strange that you're acting as if he did.

#3110

I should say I feel confident that both CBK (my sister, so I know her pretty well) Rey, and Leamiteo were civs. So of the kills, I think we have lost far more civs than baddies so we may have as many as three misty goblins, but at least two I think. So you know what, I was wrong with what I just said. Smaug is probably the better bet to lynch right now. I will work on my case for who I think is Smaug and post it as soon as I finish...

#3111

*of the Smaug and Moria kills

#3112

Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Bullzeye wrote: All of that came after he'd already decided I was Smaug. He has never explained where he originally pulled the idea out of *cough*his ass*cough* or why specifically he thinks that I'm Smaug rather than a baddie.
You cannot know when he decided what. You are not privy to his thoughts.
I can infer it based on his posts. He was saying I was Smaug all day before I made the posts he quoted in the post you referred to earlier. Most of the ones he quoted for that were made after the lynch, or near the end. He'd already been raving about me being Smaug. Therefore he'd already decided it and the post you are talking about had nothing to do with his original "suspicion".
You may suspect that but you can't know that. But maybe you are right because if he originally thought you a wood elf and then Smaug he obviously had you penned as some sort of "indie" role. I mean in a way "rogue" is indy.
You aren't making any sense now. The 'huge post about why I'm bad' that you're referring to contained exclusively posts that came after the day in which Epi accused me of being Smaug. Unless he's a time traveller there's no way any of them had any influence on his belief that I was Smaug. He had already said he believed that before I made any of the posts he used later. Epig has never explained what originally caused him to think I'm bad and I find it strange that you're acting as if he did.

I am acting as though i don't know what Epi is thinking. Which I don't. Neither do you. Regardless of posts. I don't post everything I think. probably he doesn't either.

#3113

Spacedaisy wrote:I should say I feel confident that both CBK (my sister, so I know her pretty well) Rey, and Leamiteo were civs. So of the kills, I think we have lost far more civs than baddies so we may have as many as three misty goblins, but at least two I think. So you know what, I was wrong with what I just said. Smaug is probably the better bet to lynch right now. I will work on my case for who I think is Smaug and post it as soon as I finish...

Yeah we already said there are three Moria goblins (maybe two)

#3114

Snow Dog wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I should say I feel confident that both CBK (my sister, so I know her pretty well) Rey, and Leamiteo were civs. So of the kills, I think we have lost far more civs than baddies so we may have as many as three misty goblins, but at least two I think. So you know what, I was wrong with what I just said. Smaug is probably the better bet to lynch right now. I will work on my case for who I think is Smaug and post it as soon as I finish...
Yeah we already said there are three Moria goblins (maybe two)

Sorry, that sounds a bit rude

#3115

Snow Dog wrote: I am acting as though i don't know what Epi is thinking. Which I don't. Neither do you. Regardless of posts. I don't post everything I think. probably he doesn't either.

Let me summarise this conversation. I said Epi hadn't explained where his belief I'm Smaug originally came from. You then said actually he made a big post about adverbs and stuff, which I pointed out came long after he originally said I was Smaug and only quoted posts I'd made since he first accused me, therefore meaning it couldn't be why he first suspected me. You then said I can't know for sure that it wasn't why he decided I was Smaug because I don't know what he's thinking. You are basically saying that I'm wrong for pointing out that there has been no discussion from Epig about why exactly he initially believed I'm Smaug when all he has said on the matter is that someone has to be. I really don't understand you here.

#3116

Bullzeye wrote:
Snow Dog wrote: I am acting as though i don't know what Epi is thinking. Which I don't. Neither do you. Regardless of posts. I don't post everything I think. probably he doesn't either.
Let me summarise this conversation. I said Epi hadn't explained where his belief I'm Smaug originally came from. You then said actually he made a big post about adverbs and stuff, which I pointed out came long after he originally said I was Smaug and only quoted posts I'd made since he first accused me, therefore meaning it couldn't be why he first suspected me. You then said I can't know for sure that it wasn't why he decided I was Smaug because I don't know what he's thinking. You are basically saying that I'm wrong for pointing out that there has been no discussion from Epig about why exactly he initially believed I'm Smaug when all he has said on the matter is that someone has to be. I really don't understand you here.

I just don't care anymore. I'll let him speak for himself.

#3117

C'mon Netherlands!!!!!

#3118

Bullz I was wrong anyway. he thought you were an Elf as i said a few posts back so whats the point of going on about it? I am wrong obviously!!

#3119

Snow Dog wrote:C'mon Netherlands!!!!!

i had them pegged to win the entire World Cup. If they get knocked out by Mexico I will be crushed.

#3120

thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:C'mon Netherlands!!!!!
i had them pegged to win the entire World Cup. If they get knocked out by Mexico I will be crushed.

Yay!

#3121

Snow Dog wrote:
juliets wrote:Snow Dog, though the question I quoted was about a lynch you corrected that later to NK. That's the question I'm answering - I do know why I survived a NK. I wasn't lynched.

Yes I understood. Did you survive due to a purchase or are you Smaug?

I missed this. I am not Smaug.

YAYAYAYAYAY NETHERLANDS!

#3122

So yeah, this took me a while to read over her posts and while I did not find everything I taught I was finding at first, what I did see didn't change my mind. When it comes down to it, splints joined on Day 2. Smaug's first kill was not until Night 3. She has not taken a strong stance on anyone other than INH and some comments about Epi being Smaug. People are often prone to talk about their own role. For the most part her other comments were fairly noncommittal and agreeable. Even her vote posts were more like, well I don't feel strongly but I will go with *insertplayerhere* Add in the fact she also voted TH late in the lynch, which appears to be an attempted save, I think she is the one most likely to flip bad, be it Smaug or a goblin.

Process of elimination I am most willing to vote for Splints (who I feel most strongly about), Kyle, Metalmarsh, or Juliets. Juliets is the one I feel least strongly about.

#3123

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#3124

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You don't say?

#3125

Spacedaisy wrote:Frankly, I am surprised k4j was killed by Smaug. I kind of had him on my list of possible Smaug suspects...

Epi, why do you not think Bullz is a wood elf now? He was pretty protective of Boogs, wasn't he? I would say between Juliets and Bullz one of the two is probably Smaug given their lynch survivals.

I don't at this time suspect Epi, Snow or BWT.

I do believe Splints is bad. Her posts of late have been very buddy buddy with people who seem to be more influential in the thread. Asking them, what do you think of so and so, what do you think of so and so. And she is pushing me as bad based basically on my low posting. It just seems opportunistic and seems to overlook the fact I voted to tie up FZ with k4J and I placed a late vote on TH as well, so I have voted out one of each of the Baddie teams at a time when my vote could have possibly saved them. Then consider the fact she voted for Snow rather than TH... Yeah I don't feel good about her at all.

Kyle... I didn't even realize he was playing. Does anyone have a read on Kyle?

Metalmarsh, I am leaning bad on metal marsh mostly based on a process of elimination at this point, but I certainly would not vote based solely upon that.

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#3126

Spacedaisy wrote:Frankly, I am surprised k4j was killed by Smaug. I kind of had him on my list of possible Smaug suspects...

Epi, why do you not think Bullz is a wood elf now? He was pretty protective of Boogs, wasn't he? I would say between Juliets and Bullz one of the two is probably Smaug given their lynch survivals.

I don't at this time suspect Epi, Snow or BWT.

I do believe Splints is bad. Her posts of late have been very buddy buddy with people who seem to be more influential in the thread. Asking them, what do you think of so and so, what do you think of so and so. And she is pushing me as bad based basically on my low posting. It just seems opportunistic and seems to overlook the fact I voted to tie up FZ with k4J and I placed a late vote on TH as well, so I have voted out one of each of the Baddie teams at a time when my vote could have possibly saved them. Then consider the fact she voted for Snow rather than TH... Yeah I don't feel good about her at all.

Kyle... I didn't even realize he was playing. Does anyone have a read on Kyle?

Metalmarsh, I am leaning bad on metal marsh mostly based on a process of elimination at this point, but I certainly would not vote based solely upon that.

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#3127

Snow Dog wrote:
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You don't say?

#3128

Spacedaisy wrote:So yeah, this took me a while to read over her posts and while I did not find everything I taught I was finding at first, what I did see didn't change my mind. When it comes down to it, splints joined on Day 2. Smaug's first kill was not until Night 3. She has not taken a strong stance on anyone other than INH and some comments about Epi being Smaug. People are often prone to talk about their own role. For the most part her other comments were fairly noncommittal and agreeable. Even her vote posts were more like, well I don't feel strongly but I will go with *insertplayerhere* Add in the fact she also voted TH late in the lynch, which appears to be an attempted save, I think she is the one most likely to flip bad, be it Smaug or a goblin.

Process of elimination I am most willing to vote for Splints (who I feel most strongly about), Kyle, Metalmarsh, or Juliets. Juliets is the one I feel least strongly about.

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#3129

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#3130

It's amazing how chatty people become once insanified.

#3131

fingersplints wrote:Noup whon AIN outiced ows on ws on SD s SD AGAINon uticed SD SD uticenly ot. only oup owshe whowhed whowhoticed ot. ows oticalled SD whout. oup up wshed SD only cally up when utice N ced SD ws on oup oticale Noutice ws calllle cenled whed Nowhon ced owhot. SD ot. Nonly ws out. she wshed ced AINon cale uticed up owshed SD cen up AIN ced ows N up AGAGAGAGAGAINoticallly ows SD up ws otice Notice oup Nonly s up cenled ws SD owshot. N whed ut. AGAINowhoticed whout. ws ws otice SD AGAGAIN oup she owshe

Which SD?

#3132

Snow Dog wrote:It's amazing how chatty people become once insanified.

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#3133

Snow Dog wrote:
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#3134

fingersplints wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:It's amazing how chatty people become once insanified.
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I understand.

#3135

fingersplints wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
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#3136

Lol, nice. Well, I don't believe in voting for some one who is insanified because I don't like voting for someone who can't defend unless there Isabel iron clad case against them. So my vote will likely go to Metalmarsh or Kyle today.

#3137

*is an iron clad

#3138

Also Splints this is my normal civ game. I usually get much more engaged as the game gets into the end stages. So, this is not me suddenly showing up because I am bad. I'm not bad. Not even remotely. I am securely civ. though I have no real power anymore, so it won't be the most devastating loss should the civs vote me off.

#3139

Isabel Ironclad. Sounds like a character from Game of Thrones.

#3140

Spacedaisy wrote:Lol, nice. Well, I don't believe in voting for some one who is insanified because I don't like voting for someone who can't defend unless there Isabel iron clad case against them. So my vote will likely go to Metalmarsh or Kyle today.

Unless Kyle is Smaug, I don't think Kyle is bad.

#3141

Snow Dog wrote:Isabel Ironclad. Sounds like a character from Game of Thrones.

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#3142

Spacedaisy wrote:Kyle... I didn't even realize he was playing. Does anyone have a read on Kyle?

Kyle is here! last time i was in the thread there hadn't been any posts since the last host post. i fell asleep and now there's a bunch of bullz-epig stuff to catch up on.

#3143

Spacedaisy wrote:Lol, nice. Well, I don't believe in voting for some one who is insanified because I don't like voting for someone who can't defend unless there Isabel iron clad case against them. So my vote will likely go to Metalmarsh or Kyle today.

wait why me?

#3144

Why am I on the poll?

#3145

insertnamehere wrote:Why am I on the poll?

A mistake

#3146

Snow Dog wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Why am I on the poll?
A mistake

If INH gets to be on the poll, I want to be on there too!

#3147

thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Why am I on the poll?
A mistake
If INH gets to be on the poll, I want to be on there too!

Hehehe. :sheepishgrin:

llama, you can be on the next poll if you want.

#3148

Kylemii wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Lol, nice. Well, I don't believe in voting for some one who is insanified because I don't like voting for someone who can't defend unless there Isabel iron clad case against them. So my vote will likely go to Metalmarsh or Kyle today.
wait why me?

Just process of elimination. You are not one of those I feel like I trust, so you are on my list of possible baddies. Apparently Epi trusts you though...

#3149

Spacedaisy wrote:
Kylemii wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Lol, nice. Well, I don't believe in voting for some one who is insanified because I don't like voting for someone who can't defend unless there Isabel iron clad case against them. So my vote will likely go to Metalmarsh or Kyle today.
wait why me?
Just process of elimination. You are not one of those I feel like I trust, so you are on my list of possible baddies. Apparently Epi trusts you though...

I don't trust him. A view of the voting record is rather convincing.

#3150

Ok, that makes a difference. Then I would leave him on my list obviously, lol

Excited for endgame??