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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:10 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mac I think you should post the table again.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:10 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Owner has seemed to me to be perhaps the most genuine-sounding player on the board since around the time of her claim, and particularly this phase.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:12 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
be back shortly

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:13 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Seems like we are defaulting to lynching the low activity guy and the recently replaced.

I say set it all on fire and take over the Bastille.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:14 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:09 pm My RDW read was bad.
Sorry was just trying to protect my scum teammate from a railroad lynch there.

Here's a new image.

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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:14 pm
by speedchuck
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:13 pm Seems like we are defaulting to lynching the low activity guy and the recently replaced.

I say set it all on fire and take over the Bastille.
And yet RDW has no votes :huh:

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:15 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:16 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:14 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:13 pm Seems like we are defaulting to lynching the low activity guy and the recently replaced.

I say set it all on fire and take over the Bastille.
And yet RDW has no votes :huh:
CFD?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:17 pm
by nutella
I could vote for rdw but I'd rather lynch speed, like why eliminate the silent wolf when you could eliminate one who still seems to have some clout

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:18 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:14 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:13 pm Seems like we are defaulting to lynching the low activity guy and the recently replaced.

I say set it all on fire and take over the Bastille.
And yet RDW has no votes :huh:
Mafia controls 1/3 of the votes rn. Why are none of them voting for RDW even though all of them say they suspect him?

(I'm assuming the people who didn't participate the GTH suspect him too based on statistics)

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:18 pm
by MacDougall
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I think the team is RDW, Wilgy + a deepwolf. The deepwolf could be anyone and we need a further red flip to analyse it. RDW should be the lynch today without question.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:19 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: rdw] aubergine

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:19 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
[VOTE: RDW] aubergine

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:19 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:17 pm I could vote for rdw but I'd rather lynch speed, like why eliminate the silent wolf when you could eliminate one who still seems to have some clout
I don't want to lynch speedchuck today

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:21 pm
by speedchuck
[VOTE: RDW] aubergine

Even in my scariest deepwolf nightmare, RDW is a probable scumlynch.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:21 pm
by MacDougall
I have to get ready for work. I'll try to check in every now and then. Try not to let tinfoil in. RDW is the lynch. We need a mafia lynch to flesh out who the deepwolf or wolves are and RDW is our best shot.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:22 pm
by nutella
no one thinks it's weird that literally everybody suspects rdw? are we going to just be okay with another uncontested lynch?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:22 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:21 pm I have to get ready for work. I'll try to check in every now and then. Try not to let tinfoil in. RDW is the lynch. We need a mafia lynch to flesh out who the deepwolf or wolves are and RDW is our best shot.
Arrrrr!

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:23 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
nutella wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:22 pm no one thinks it's weird that literally everybody suspects rdw? are we going to just be okay with another uncontested lynch?
"Everyone"?

Don't you suspect him too?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:23 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
And this lynch is anything but uncontested.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:24 pm
by nutella
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:23 pm
nutella wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:22 pm no one thinks it's weird that literally everybody suspects rdw? are we going to just be okay with another uncontested lynch?
"Everyone"?

Don't you suspect him too?
yeah but like just by default/poe, not super strongly, and I'm starting to feel weird about this

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:24 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
nutella is on the fence lynch her

(jk)

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:26 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:22 pm no one thinks it's weird that literally everybody suspects rdw? are we going to just be okay with another uncontested lynch?
I can't think of a time that a universal scumread in GTH didn't result in a scumflip. It's more likely than anything that his teammates have been dancing around soft suspecting him without pushing it legitimately and it's finally come to a head.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:27 pm
by MacDougall
There are two things that almost always result in a scum lynch. One is unversal red on GTH and the other is the lynch being settled well ahead of the end of day with little panic or resistance.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:36 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
nutella on bussing her teammate:

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Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:40 pm
by nutella
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:27 pm There are two things that almost always result in a scum lynch. One is unversal red on GTH and the other is the lynch being settled well ahead of the end of day with little panic or resistance.
....huh? I feel like that usually results in a mislynch??

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:47 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
I don't have such a detailed memory but I remember at least one instance where a GTH completely turned the game around for the civs.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:52 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:27 pm There are two things that almost always result in a scum lynch. One is unversal red on GTH and the other is the lynch being settled well ahead of the end of day with little panic or resistance.
....huh? I feel like that usually results in a mislynch??
Not in my experience. It's those days where hardly anything happens because there is such a strong lynch candidate that the Mafia themselves can't find cause to defend lest they be chained to it.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:53 pm
by MacDougall
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:47 pm I don't have such a detailed memory but I remember at least one instance where a GTH completely turned the game around for the civs.
Indeed. And I recall at least two games where the Mafia had a lead and one critical lynch of an obvscum unravelled their entire web of lies.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:07 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I think the case against speedchuck is considerably more substantive than the case against RDW.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:08 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Jay is doubting GTH

I'm telling you guys, he's bad

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:08 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I have no good reason to call RDW a civilian. He hasn't done anything of note in his return to the game, and his present vote is goofy. I can't dissociate him from Ultra. That's about the extent of what I can say on that front.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:09 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:07 pm I think the case against speedchuck is considerably more substantive than the case against RDW.
That goes without saying given speedchuck's content is more substantive.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:10 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:08 pm Jay is doubting GTH

I'm telling you guys, he's bad
GTH has never been about "see who has the most mafia reads and then lynch that person". It's a contextual exercise with a value that comes about in unique ways in each game I've employed it or seen it employed. The only consistent theme I can draw from the past has been that mafia members are more inclined to give civilian reads GTH, and even that has become less accurate over time (perhaps as a result of my saying it so many times).

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:13 pm
by MacDougall
I disagree. It's exactly about what you say it isn't.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:15 pm
by MacDougall
Jay you yourself have RDW as a scum read in GTH and we have uninamous support of the lynch yet you want to talk about speedchuck who had a majority civ reading him instead. Take a back seat and let daddy decide for once.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:15 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention], thoughts on speedchuck and RDW - go

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I can't say that I thought about that specific fact. Did you?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
by MacDougall
All in favour of Jay letting Daddy Mac create some satisfaction out here?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I can't say that I thought about that specific fact. Did you?
No. I don't recall anyone supporting him all day though.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:19 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I had all my answers decided in advance but it's not my fault I'm just paying more attention to this game than usual.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:20 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I'm not going to defend the dude. He hasn't done anything.

I am just more moved by a speedchuck lynch.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:20 pm
by MacDougall
Is there a universe in which speedchuck and RDW are both mafia?

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:20 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
I didn't know whether the rest of you were going to scumread him or not, though.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:21 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I can't say that I thought about that specific fact. Did you?
No. I don't recall anyone supporting him all day though.
Jay, meet Distancing. Distancing, here is Jay. I hope you get along well.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:22 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I can't say that I thought about that specific fact. Did you?
No. I don't recall anyone supporting him all day though.
Jay, meet Distancing. Distancing, here is Jay. I hope you get along well.
Yes, you suspect me. Thanks for the reminder. :smile:

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:22 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
[mention]rundontwalk2[/mention], you have three votes. Talk about them.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:24 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:17 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:14 pm Did we expect anyone to call RDW a civilian before we did a GTH exercise?
I can't say that I thought about that specific fact. Did you?
No. I don't recall anyone supporting him all day though.
Jay, meet Distancing. Distancing, here is Jay. I hope you get along well.
Yes, you suspect me. Thanks for the reminder. :smile:
No, what I mean here is that whoever RDW's teammates are, they are distancing from him.

So no, the fact no one is defending him at all is not a good thing.

Re: MU Season 6 Scrimmage [Day 5]

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:25 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 6:24 pm No, what I mean here is that whoever RDW's teammates are, they are distancing from him.

So no, the fact no one is defending him at all is not a good thing.
Could be.