The Syndicate

Wait we're Jews we have no Lord.

That didn't take long.

I've voted.

We should prepare for contingencies though just in case. The best alternative I have is still NVN. I'm going to trust FZ's strong endorsement of Marmot.

Reduce the POE pool to two and we should be okay (barring more skipped day phase or wrong lynch type b/s).

My guess is NVN is Fruma Sarah and Spacedaisy is This Guy.

My lynch order is;

Spacedaisy
NVN
Kyle
Marmot
Wilgy
JJJ

I wonder if Fruma just killed Lazar though and if so what that means for her for the rest of the game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:43 am Wait we're Jews we have no Lord.

I'm dead so I can't use pedantic pink, but this is just factually inaccurate. Jews use Lord language all the time in our theology. One of the main names for God (Adonai) is literally translated as My Lord.

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:43 am Wait we're Jews we have no Lord.

I'm dead so I can't use pedantic pink, but this is just factually inaccurate. Jews use Lord language all the time in our theology. One of the main names for God (Adonai) is literally translated as My Lord.

Thank you for updating my knowledge.

Ok, so apparently I'm still alive? I absolutely 100% endorse my lynch. It could be our undoing if you are still talking about me in LYLO.

Voting Daisy

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:31 pm Ok, so apparently I'm still alive? I absolutely 100% endorse my lynch. It could be our undoing if you are still talking about me in LYLO.

Voting Daisy

Thanks

I just scoured the posts of night killed players to find clues in case it's not Daisy. The best I've got would still be NVN with a roll of tinfoil in Kyle's lap.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:55 pm I just scoured the posts of night killed players to find clues in case it's not Daisy. The best I've got would still be NVN with a roll of tinfoil in Kyle's lap.

Why is Marmot clear ?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:00 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:55 pm I just scoured the posts of night killed players to find clues in case it's not Daisy. The best I've got would still be NVN with a roll of tinfoil in Kyle's lap.

Why is Marmot clear ?

I think FZ. had information in his favor (or information against Daisy or both). She couldn't say it outright, but there's no better reason she could have been so insistent in his defense. It'd also fit the [speculative] theory that she was Lazar Wolf and was killed when the ghost found her. That role can track on even nights and block on odd nights. It'd suggest either tracked Daisy into a kill or Marmot not into a kill when there's only one mafioso alive. It's possible she also blocked the Night 5 mafia kill (and she'd have targeted Daisy with that). That all depends upon her being Lazar Wolf though, which is an educated guess.

Host with the most would please end this Faraday

endatday

Lynch post incoming.

Mazel tov!

Good game, Daisy!

You played very well. Even if the last two day phases were dead quiet, I was never comfortable. I couldn't shake the feeling that we were choking this one away.

A couple things I would like to say. First of all, I wrote my big posts and case against Jay before I knew my role. I was 100% certain that Jay was bad as I was catching up on the thread. I knew I was replacing, but I didn't know what my role or alignment was until when I was announced back in. I decided my best course of action was to play it just like I planned before I knew I was to be bad. So all my thoughts were my authentic civ thoughts at that point. Additionally, I had no idea my team had used my predecessor's role to force Dizzy to make a case until you saw me switch off Jay in the thread. I wasn't told and what I said about Epi mentioned a curse and so forth, also 100% truth. I say this because, dude I would never have gone after Jay if I had known so please don't judge my awful Day 2 play based on that. I swear I'm a better baddie than that.

Also, let me be perfectly clear. I consider it poor form to use your real life circumstances as a weapon to guilt or manipulate anyone. I was not ever doing that and the reaction you saw was authentic.

Anyway, well played civs, PoE does it again.

[mention]DFaraday[/mention] So did I win lol ?

Congratulations to Town. And thanks for hosting mate.

Thanks for the game, DFaraday.

It was a fun one and my nerves were continually poked. I definitely didn't see Dizzy's death coming.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:00 am @DFaraday So did I win lol ?

Congratulations to Town. And thanks for hosting mate.

Were you the g-g-ghost?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:02 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:00 am @DFaraday So did I win lol ?

Congratulations to Town. And thanks for hosting mate.

Were you the g-g-ghost?

Yes

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:00 am @DFaraday So did I win lol ?

Congratulations to Town. And thanks for hosting mate.

Marmot is Tzeitel, and she survived, so no.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:59 am A couple things I would like to say. First of all, I wrote my big posts and case against Jay before I knew my role. I was 100% certain that Jay was bad as I was catching up on the thread. I knew I was replacing, but I didn't know what my role or alignment was until when I was announced back in. I decided my best course of action was to play it just like I planned before I knew I was to be bad. So all my thoughts were my authentic civ thoughts at that point. Additionally, I had no idea my team had used my predecessor's role to force Dizzy to make a case until you saw me switch off Jay in the thread. I wasn't told and what I said about Epi mentioned a curse and so forth, also 100% truth. I say this because, dude I would never have gone after Jay if I had known so please don't judge my awful Day 2 play based on that. I swear I'm a better baddie than that.

Also, let me be perfectly clear. I consider it poor form to use your real life circumstances as a weapon to guilt or manipulate anyone. I was not ever doing that and the reaction you saw was authentic.

Anyway, well played civs, PoE does it again.

Hell, I thought your initial suspicion of me looked very authentic (and it was), and your turn back the other way when you discovered Dizzy's forced vote also looked authentic. Even if accidental, it wasn't a bad play! You were in a very difficult position as a replacement and you managed well under the circumstances.

A big part of the reason I was so irritated on Day 1 was that I was Avram, and I've wanted a chance to be the loudspeaker role for like three years. Then I finally got it and was nearly lynched before I even had a chance to use it.

I also never suspected nutella at all, but I was hoping that she (or somebody) would notice that Avram and Sloonei were saying the exact same things about her. After thay first night I felt pretty much cleared as a townie and we seemed to be on the right track, so I didn't know what to do with the role and just turned into a cheerleader.

*civilians carry FZ. on shoulders over the horizon chanting heroic poems*

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:01 am Thanks for the game, DFaraday.

It was a fun one and my nerves were continually poked. I definitely didn't see Dizzy's death coming.

Sorry for that man, I focused my curses on maximizing the curse my predecessors placed on Dizzy. Thus trying to get Epi to split the vote enough to hopefully get Dizzy lynched, which didn't work. Wilgy being the lynch stop really fucked me. And it was Wilgy's decision to not do what I asked him to that gave me the votes to get her lynched instead of me. But after that my curses were more psychological. I was trying to shake everyone's confidence in information. It was my last shot in the dark to try and shake the PoE at that point.

Also sorry Epi, I know how frustrated you were.

Linki: I was literally so shaken by the revelation of the curse I was thrown off and did not know where to put my vote since everything was changing fast. It was a really bad day for us. I knew at the end of the day we were screwed.

DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:05 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:00 am @DFaraday So did I win lol ?

Congratulations to Town. And thanks for hosting mate.

Marmot is Tzeitel, and she survived, so no.

Oh yes lol. I'm dumb, I confused her with Tevye in your last write-up.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:47 am My guess is NVN is Fruma Sarah and Spacedaisy is This Guy.

check out... uh, this guy.

Bummer on the conclusion, NVN. You played a strong indy game and surely came close considering how much I wanted to murder Marmot. It was a good first game playing with you.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:08 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:01 am Thanks for the game, DFaraday.

It was a fun one and my nerves were continually poked. I definitely didn't see Dizzy's death coming.

Sorry for that man, I focused my curses on maximizing the curse my predecessors placed on Dizzy. Thus trying to get Epi to split the vote enough to hopefully get Dizzy lynched, which didn't work. Wilgy being the lynch stop really fucked me. And it was Wilgy's decision to not do what I asked him to that gave me the votes to get her lynched instead of me. But after that my curses were more psychological. I was trying to shake everyone's confidence in information. It was my last shot in the dark to try and shake the PoE at that point.

Also sorry Epi, I know how frustrated you were.

Linki: I was literally so shaken by the revelation of the curse I was thrown off and did not know where to put my vote since everything was changing fast. It was a really bad day for us. I knew at the end of the day we were screwed.

When you cursed me, I misread it and went hard on LC. On a re-read I finally figured out the curse but he already had 4 votes on him. I started flip flopping around and making myself scummy so that I get lynched instead of him. But it was too little too late lol

nice work everyone. good work daisy. you had me doubting myself.

this game was cool cus i didn't have to do basically anything at all

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:11 am Bummer on the conclusion, NVN. You played a strong indy game and surely came close considering how much I wanted to murder Marmot. It was a good first game playing with you.

I almost got him lynched lol. I should have killed him instead of FZ but if he died, I would have lost my lynch immunity. I wanted to give Mafia more time to get kills and for you guys to lynch me. I was so scummy but you guys didn't lol.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:14 am nice work everyone. good work daisy. you had me doubting myself.

this game was cool cus i didn't have to do basically anything at all

Just be wary. Everyone knows your tell now.

Curse roles are really hard you have to come up with a curse that helps you whether they make the conditions or not, and you want it to be something that doesn't tip any information to the person being cursed or to the players seeing it in action.

I went for a defend LC curse on you, because I thought it was unlikely he would survive and it would make you look scummy. Your actions were more than I could have hoped for, but it didn't matter in the end. You played well despite everything. It was a fun first game with you NVN. Hope it's not your last game with us.

We won? Yay!! Good job guys! Are dead civvies winners too?

Daisy, well played! I know you think I accused you of using real life as an excuse, but that was never the case.

I'm on my phone, so I'll be back in a few minutes to say stuff I wanted

Oh also NVN. I didn't actually curse you, I was redirected. It was good you messed it up because then whoever redirected it would have known instantly it was me.

FZ I understand, I enjoy playing with you. I only said that at the end because I want to be clear I don't fake emotional outbursts or whatever. It was probably misunderstanding what you meant. You are cool.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:16 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:14 am nice work everyone. good work daisy. you had me doubting myself.

this game was cool cus i didn't have to do basically anything at all

Just be wary. Everyone knows your tell now.

reacting poorly to unfair accusations is not a tell i want associated with me if it encourages unfair accusations to be placed upon me, i won't react the same in the future, regardless of alignment. i don't want to see that precedent

set*

I'd like to know how the mafia team responded (if at all) behind the scenes to Epignosis and I ripping into each other all day, my furious insistence that he be destroyed, and then both of us completely dropping it out of nowhere and never revisiting it. That was fun.

By the way. Sloonei and I were teammates. You should have lynched us.

I wasn't part of the team when you guys started, but we didn't really talk about it behind the scenes once I was in there.

I was one of the daughters btw. I didn't expect to be found because I wasn't a high priority kill target, did the dad find the other daughter?

I was Lazar Wolf. I blocked Marmot and saw the kill go through the same night that FZ seemed to clear him too and then blocked Daisy on the last night. I also failed to submit a night pm 3 times.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:20 am Oh also NVN. I didn't actually curse you, I was redirected. It was good you messed it up because then whoever redirected it would have known instantly it was me.

FZ I understand, I enjoy playing with you. I only said that at the end because I want to be clear I don't fake emotional outbursts or whatever. It was probably misunderstanding what you meant. You are cool.

I'm glad we're okay. I don't doubt people when they tell me they had a shitty day and are not in the mood to play, because just like you, I try not to use personal life as an excuse.

I was Chava, the cop. The first night, I checked LC because something there felt off, but it was really a lucky hunch. Then, I spent most of the time trying to think of ways to not look like I was the cop and still get people to follow me. That is one hard job...I was sure the baddies were on to me and would kill me.

Next, I checked Wilgy, who turned out to be Golde. He had barely posted so I had almost nothing to "base" my opinions on. I started making things up. It's a good thing Epi did his shtick, because that was helpful for Wilgy.
The next night I was blocked, and the one after that I checked Marmot and got Tzeitel. Once again I had to fabricate evidence for you guys to follow me and not lynch him. I have no idea why Marmot did the things he did, or if he was indeed cursed the last day before I died. I just didn't know how to get you to listen. I'm glad JJJ finally understood.

The funny thing is, I checked Daisy the night before my last one, and DF didn't give me an answer. So I started out by wanting to lynch her anyway, but my back and forth with JJJ lead to me saying that the only person I'd consider switching to is NVN (Should have let him get lynched, I'd still be alive...), but I ended up keeping it on Daisy. But just when I was going to sleep, DF got back to me and said Daisy was actually this guy, so I had to stay up to make sure JJJ went back to Daisy. If you were wondering why I suddenly became so sure of myself, that's the reason

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:37 am I was one of the daughters btw. I didn't expect to be found because I wasn't a high priority kill target, did the dad find the other daughter?

Poor Epi never found any of his daughters, so there was no civ BTSC at all this game. He came close twice though, once he tried to protect someone else, but was redirected to you, but was also blocked that night. Another time he tried to protect FZ, who was Chava, but it got redirected to NVN.

Linki: And for some reason I kept not receiving PMs from Mac even when he sent them.

FZ. wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:42 am I have no idea why Marmot did the things he did

Same.

LOL, the last night I didn't really have any reasons to check anyone anymore, so I told DF that just for fun, I'd like to check JJJ. When I found out I was killed by the ghost, I thought maybe it was JJJ and anyone that targeted him would have a 50% chance of dying, or a similar kind of role

DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:43 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:37 am I was one of the daughters btw. I didn't expect to be found because I wasn't a high priority kill target, did the dad find the other daughter?

Poor Epi never found any of his daughters, so there was no civ BTSC at all this game. He came close twice though, once he tried to protect someone else, but was redirected to you, but was also blocked that night. Another time he tried to protect FZ, who was Chava, but it got redirected to NVN.

Linki: And for some reason I kept not receiving PMs from Mac even when he sent them.

I pretty sure I just thought they were going through when in fact I was just submitting to the preview screen