The Syndicate

Mongoose wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Were you to vote for a Lizzy voter, who would it be? Those are the folks I'm checking out.

DP seems extra squirrelly this game.

Mongoose wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Were you to vote for a Lizzy voter, who would it be? Those are the folks I'm checking out.

DP seems extra squirrelly this game.

juliets wrote: When I think back on the vote I was definitely surprised by DP's vote but at this moment I can't think of why. It just was so...unexpected if that makes sense..

Roxy wrote:[quote="Mad Bomber"]This is to be passed person to person via the host throughout Day 3. You will NOT post in the thread if you have or have not received the bomb. Watch your PM's!!

thellama73 wrote:Also, I am very confused by this.

Roxy wrote:[quote="Mad Bomber"]This is to be passed person to person via the host throughout Day 3. You will NOT post in the thread if you have or have not received the bomb. Watch your PM's!!

Epignosis wrote:I believe she means that you will not mention whether or not you have received it. That's how I read it.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I am throwing a vote on Lizzy. I find her vote rather strange.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Were you to vote for a Lizzy voter, who would it be? Those are the folks I'm checking out.

DP seems extra squirrelly this game.

I don't know what that means. I don't appreciate you lumping all us rodents together though.

Mongoose wrote:Oooh I'm the cute brown one.

Epignosis wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Epignosis wrote:The Lizzy votes came in BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM 1-2-3-4 like a band getting ready to play. They came in right when llama voted for MovingPictures.

That's the first thing that sticks out to me.

Indeed, indeed. I don't know exactly how to connect the dots though. Do you have any interpretation(s)?

That's the thing- it's all so circumstantial. One or two in that crew have to be rotten. That's when I look through the posts and am like the bear that went over the mountain.

Russtifinko wrote:RIP, S~V~S! I too am really puzzled by the choice of kill. It seems some suspicion was being directed at her.

Mongoose, let's do crank up the double entendres!

To address some of MP's thoughts, since he addressed me specifically a few times: I personally will still be keeping a weather eye on llama. Whether others have enough reason to do so is up to them. I do think his insanification makes him look less likely to be bad, even though it wouldn't be the first time a baddie has faked or targeted a teammate.

I did say I would be giving less weight to vote records, but a possible juliets-DP connection is somewhat compelling. I think juliets seems a nice enough teammate to want to keep everyone around on Day 1, even if it means risking her own neck. However, what really gets me with that is still: why S~V~S? I agree with MP's idea that she was probably targeted for a specific reason, rather than the baddie equivalent of randomizing. I disagree with 'Goose that they probably knew her role. (Unless there's something you're not telling us that you'd like to come clean about, 'Goose?) On the surface seems either a poor attempt to frame llama, or a possible double cross as (I think 'Goose?) suggested.

The other thing that makes me nervous about DP and juliets is this: as I said yesterday, one of my favorite ploys as a baddie is to trick a civvie in voting a fellow civvie (or especially being the deciding vote) and then convincing everyone to bandwagon onto that civvie. It gets 2 civs dead and wastes a bunch of time, during which my team can scheme and NK and such. So if I were a baddie, I would for sure want to frame juliets and/or DP and maybe get lucky enough to waste 3 days (counting yesterday). The problem with that, again, is: why not just sit back and let S~V~S take the heat? The only answer I can come up with is that the baddies weren't convinced S~V~S would take enough heat, or that things would change between night and the lynch.

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm talking in circles, but I think the questions we need to ask ourselves are: who would have been under suspicion (besides S~V~S) today if she had not been killed? And, if DP and juliets aren't bad (That's a big if; I'm still very much considering that they are.) who stands to benefit from/has been directing suspicion onto them?

My thoughts at this moment: I think llama clearly fits the first question, though as I said his insanification makes me feel a little better. The frame job thing could go either way. Occam's Razor says he was framed, but we know llama loves his complex mafia gambits.

I think Epi has been the one looking closest at juliets and DP lately, and MP mentioned likely voting juliets as well. Others may also be thinking they're bad and just not have posted it yet, so it may be a fluke of timing, but those two have caught my eye. The fact that other apparently get the heebie-jeebies from Epi right now also disconcerts me.

I would LOVE to hear if others have ideas about who would have drawn suspicion today along with S~V~S if she hadn't been the one killed, and about who would want to get DP and juliets lynched.

thellama73 wrote:Awesome job voting in the poll, Russti. Were you saying something about accountability earlier? I was going to look at your vote record, but oh wait! You don't have one!

I am going to be largely incommunicado this weekend, so I will be brief. My suspicions fall heavily on MP today. He clearly said that if I voted for him, he would vote for me back, but when I called his bluff, he inexplicably backed off and voted for Lizzy, starting a bandwagon that resulted in a civ lynch. I also think he has been less helpful at making cases than he usually is, instead just saying things like "oh golly, I don't know, someone else come up with an idea I can latch onto." That is atypical of his play, and I don't trust him one single bit. If nothing changes between now and vote o'clock, I will be bringing the hammer down on MP...HARD!

S~V~S wrote:Good Question. Epi~

I am though

Voting Hedgeowl

linki~ she is saying that she can see Lizzy vote, yet she also is suspicious of it, and indeed wound up voting for it. She set herself up to teeter either way, me or Lizzy, depending how the wind blew. That is how it reads to me at least. Her vote for lizzy makes me suspect lizzy a bit more, tbh.

thellama73 wrote:I do think all the Lizzy voters are suspicious. The way that bandwagon shaped up was really weird. But I still blame you for starting it. :P

juliets wrote: DP, to try to answer your question I can explain a little further why your vote bothers me. MP and I had been having some conversation about Lizzy earlier in the day, around the noonish time frame. From that time up until the below quote which was at @5:29 you hadn't said anything about Lizzy, then all of a sudden this:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I am throwing a vote on Lizzy. I find her vote rather strange.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Lest we forget also that Hedgeowl's vote for Lizzy was incredibly blendy and that she contradicted herself (something that S~V~S pointed out).

I think I might actually go her way now, tbh. I have to leave to go back to work in 10 minutes. Going to think about it. Want to hear what others have to say.

I did think that it's possible baddies were trying to frame Hedgeowl, but why do that? No one has even talked about her, really. I mentioned her a bit just before and there was a little bit of discussion, but she is far from the main topic right now.

Hedgeowl wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Were you to vote for a Lizzy voter, who would it be? Those are the folks I'm checking out.

DP seems extra squirrelly this game.

I don't know what that means. I don't appreciate you lumping all us rodents together though.

Russtifinko wrote: llama: Please address your future posts to me in sarcastic orange, since they are clearly sarcastic. Feel free to be a dick, but at least follow site protocol.

Russtifinko wrote:MP: yes.

llama: Please address your future posts to me in sarcastic orange, since they are clearly sarcastic. Feel free to be a dick, but at least follow site protocol.

juliets wrote:I just finished reading MP (I had to also throw a jog into that time) and didn't see anything I felt was un-Moving Pictures like in these first days. His suspicions, though varied, seem to be rational. I won't be looking his way for the lynch.

I'm about to re-read Hedgeowl because of the issue brought up by SVS I think that Hedgeowl contradicted herself. I'm concerned however that Hedgeowl seems to be under either a smilie curse or a silence curse. When I first read her post above I thought why is she just repeating what somebody else said? but upon closer inspection I see she has added little smilies. Given that her name has come up and she was here it doesnt make sense to me that she wouldn't address the issue that's been brought up. I'm still going to re-read her but I'm not sure I would vote her unless I see her speak up.

Mongoose wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Like who, Mongoose? Can you name names, please? More helpful that way

Loike the wahn bloke 'oo 'as the masters of the universe avatar. but na 'e will be Mum and Dad at meeeee and wanna Tiddley Win' me Claret so daan't let 'im, okay?

It's too Liz Hurley for me ter tell if 'e is a snakey Joe Blake obviously, but it's a bit pingy for me from this yoga ball on which I Eartha Kitt.

Does that make any Eigh'een Pence?

linki - I done loike that Din' Dong.

Mr. D wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:MP: yes.

llama: Please address your future posts to me in sarcastic orange, since they are clearly sarcastic. Feel free to be a dick, but at least follow site protocol.

Sarcastic orange is reserved for the dead in this game, since the hostess stole the dead color. May I suggest a different color for sarcasm this game? Something really obnoxious and hard to read...like this!

Mr. D wrote:Guys sorry I have been so absent lately. Had some stuff to do, but Mr D is back and better than ever! I can tell you all that you are very wrong in at least one if your suspicions, but I am not gonna tell you which one. As for the last night poll, only one option benefited, but which one? and did they have info? I'll let you all be the judge of that!

Whoever used "squirrelly" is now my favorite person ever. I use that at least once a day.

juliets wrote:Mongoose, I'm reading back through your posts and I can't understand this one. It's in response to SVS asking you who you meant when you said you saw some aggressive players playing less aggressively (I'm paraphrasing there just to let you know what post you were responding to). Can you tell me what you are saying here?

Mongoose wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Like who, Mongoose? Can you name names, please? More helpful that way

Loike the wahn bloke 'oo 'as the masters of the universe avatar. but na 'e will be Mum and Dad at meeeee and wanna Tiddley Win' me Claret so daan't let 'im, okay?

It's too Liz Hurley for me ter tell if 'e is a snakey Joe Blake obviously, but it's a bit pingy for me from this yoga ball on which I Eartha Kitt.

Does that make any Eigh'een Pence?

linki - I done loike that Din' Dong.

thellama73 wrote:I reread hedge, and DP (I do not think juliets is bad) and I'm not seeing enough in either of them to deter my intentions. Hope you enjoy my vote, MP!

MovingPictures07 wrote:If I don't hear from anyone else soon, I will spam the thread.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:If I don't hear from anyone else soon, I will spam the thread.

And this is a threat...how exactly?

Russtifinko wrote:juliets, I actually feel worst about Epi right now. That's almost purely gut feeling. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a particular action that has pinged me.

However, I am still worried my fears of him are based too much on Bioshock and not enough on Rolling Stones, and I'd hate to lynch him if he's not bad. If I don't go for Epi, you and DP seem the obvious candidates. I'm not as sure as I'd like to be about any of the 3 of you, but I am absolutely committed to voting for someone in this poll, and no other names have truly caught my eye so far.

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:juliets, I actually feel worst about Epi right now. That's almost purely gut feeling. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a particular action that has pinged me.

However, I am still worried my fears of him are based too much on Bioshock and not enough on Rolling Stones, and I'd hate to lynch him if he's not bad. If I don't go for Epi, you and DP seem the obvious candidates. I'm not as sure as I'd like to be about any of the 3 of you, but I am absolutely committed to voting for someone in this poll, and no other names have truly caught my eye so far.

If it's your gut, there's nothing I can really say (except suggest a bicarb?).

I feel the strongest about juliets and (by extension) Disgruntled Porcupine. And yet uneasy about voting for either.

thellama73 wrote:Also, I am very confused by this.

Roxy wrote:[quote="Mad Bomber"]This is to be passed person to person via the host throughout Day 3. You will NOT post in the thread if you have or have not received the bomb. Watch your PM's!!

Am I to be graded on my words when hosting or playing a game?

You knew what I meant llama you always make me giggle.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:If I don't hear from anyone else soon, I will spam the thread.

And this is a threat...how exactly?

No spamming without actual spam involved in someway or form.

Link -Who would you vote for Mr D?