The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:54 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:48 pm I like this. People scum reading me. More of what I'm used to.

...??????

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:10 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:24 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:13 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:01 pm I don't feel like explaining my town read on Jay. Nothing scummy about that.

It's not only the lack of expanding but more so your whole entrance. You start with that strong vouch, then when prodded turns to light jokes and icebreakers using the theme and host to pull you through the thread. It's a big mess, and it feels like you weren't sure how to enter the thread and went on with a mix of down to business following the marks of the early gth reads and trying to be 'fun'. It's not natural.

Also why the need to comment "nothing scummy about that"?

I was very sure about how I wanted to enter the thread. The mess was on purpose. I strongly disagree. It's perfectly natural.

If it was on purpose, how was it natural?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:01 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:59 pm I think Dragomir’s behavior to this point has been goofy, but not outlandish. When he expanded on his read that I’m no good, I thought he looked pretty genuine. The case may not be “strong”, but that’s not a standard I’m holding any case to at this stage of a Mafia game.

It’s about me so I grant the potential for biases etc. A Dragomir voter and/or accuser should talk about this.

I've said things about Dragomir, but I'm waiting to hear from Dragomir.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:34 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:56 pm Can drago and Rej both be bad?

Three votes on Dragomir. Three votes on Rej.

You are asking this question but you aren't voting for either one. Bad.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:00 am JJJ and Mac look worser than before.
Fayt is ok.
Epi is also ok.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:36 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:01 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:59 pm I think Dragomir’s behavior to this point has been goofy, but not outlandish. When he expanded on his read that I’m no good, I thought he looked pretty genuine. The case may not be “strong”, but that’s not a standard I’m holding any case to at this stage of a Mafia game.

It’s about me so I grant the potential for biases etc. A Dragomir voter and/or accuser should talk about this.

I've said things about Dragomir, but I'm waiting to hear from Dragomir.

What do you want to hear from me?

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:41 am I'd like to know why you make yourself a victim in every interaction and propose no solutions, but rather bask in your victimhood as if that will help us find a baddie.
Thanks.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:39 pm I'm voting for Dragomir. I'm probably wrong. I don't care. I do stupid things. Like chase cars.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm I just got massively screwed by J. Williams in the DET-GBP game sliding on his ass on purpose in front of the end zone to let Crosby kick a field goal. I didn't lose anything, but damn. What could have been.

That said, the officiating sucked in favor of GBP. Two face mask penalties on Flowers? Guy has never had one and shouldn't have had either tonight.

In that game, the dogs lost. Let it not be so here.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:04 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:41 am I'd like to know why you make yourself a victim in every interaction and propose no solutions, but rather bask in your victimhood as if that will help us find a baddie.
Thanks.

Because I believe that I am. It should help us find a baddie. I have provided a solution. Move on from it and focus on those that tried coming after me. But you guys refuse to do that so what the hell am I supposed to do? That tizzy I created provided a lot of discussions that could be used for reads which is how my scum reads on LC and Jay came to fruition.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:06 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:39 pm I'm voting for Dragomir. I'm probably wrong. I don't care. I do stupid things. Like chase cars.

This really pisses me off. Epi is bad.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm I just got massively screwed by J. Williams in the DET-GBP game sliding on his ass on purpose in front of the end zone to let Crosby kick a field goal. I didn't lose anything, but damn. What could have been.

That said, the officiating sucked in favor of GBP. Two face mask penalties on Flowers? Guy has never had one and shouldn't have had either tonight.

In that game, the dogs lost. Let it not be so here.

Detriot should have 100% won that game. I'm more infuriated by the Browns and Seahawks game though. Browns had every chance to win the game but they blew it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:17 am I can’t read this right now I promise I will in the morning
I’m not looking forward to another day 1 Rej vs Drago fight

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:04 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:41 am I'd like to know why you make yourself a victim in every interaction and propose no solutions, but rather bask in your victimhood as if that will help us find a baddie.
Thanks.

Because I believe that I am. It should help us find a baddie. I have provided a solution. Move on from it and focus on those that tried coming after me. But you guys refuse to do that so what the hell am I supposed to do? That tizzy I created provided a lot of discussions that could be used for reads which is how my scum reads on LC and Jay came to fruition.

Elaborate. Elucidate.
I dunno. Create #content.

Anything but what you're doing would be great.

TOTAL WITCH HUNT BAD FAKE NEWS CROOKED MEDIA BAD

das u rn

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:06 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:39 pm I'm voting for Dragomir. I'm probably wrong. I don't care. I do stupid things. Like chase cars.

This really pisses me off. Epi is bad.

L O L

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:09 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm I just got massively screwed by J. Williams in the DET-GBP game sliding on his ass on purpose in front of the end zone to let Crosby kick a field goal. I didn't lose anything, but damn. What could have been.

That said, the officiating sucked in favor of GBP. Two face mask penalties on Flowers? Guy has never had one and shouldn't have had either tonight.

In that game, the dogs lost. Let it not be so here.

Detriot should have 100% won that game. I'm more infuriated by the Browns and Seahawks game though. Browns had every chance to win the game but they blew it.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:12 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:04 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:41 am I'd like to know why you make yourself a victim in every interaction and propose no solutions, but rather bask in your victimhood as if that will help us find a baddie.
Thanks.

Because I believe that I am. It should help us find a baddie. I have provided a solution. Move on from it and focus on those that tried coming after me. But you guys refuse to do that so what the hell am I supposed to do? That tizzy I created provided a lot of discussions that could be used for reads which is how my scum reads on LC and Jay came to fruition.

Elaborate. Elucidate.
I dunno. Create #content.

Anything but what you're doing would be great.

TOTAL WITCH HUNT BAD FAKE NEWS CROOKED MEDIA BAD

das u rn

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:06 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:39 pm I'm voting for Dragomir. I'm probably wrong. I don't care. I do stupid things. Like chase cars.

This really pisses me off. Epi is bad.

L O L

Are you trying to say that all I've been doing is just say that the accusations against me are fake and bad?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:13 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:09 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm I just got massively screwed by J. Williams in the DET-GBP game sliding on his ass on purpose in front of the end zone to let Crosby kick a field goal. I didn't lose anything, but damn. What could have been.

That said, the officiating sucked in favor of GBP. Two face mask penalties on Flowers? Guy has never had one and shouldn't have had either tonight.

In that game, the dogs lost. Let it not be so here.

Detriot should have 100% won that game. I'm more infuriated by the Browns and Seahawks game though. Browns had every chance to win the game but they blew it.

I can't see this image.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:12 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:04 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:41 am I'd like to know why you make yourself a victim in every interaction and propose no solutions, but rather bask in your victimhood as if that will help us find a baddie.
Thanks.

Because I believe that I am. It should help us find a baddie. I have provided a solution. Move on from it and focus on those that tried coming after me. But you guys refuse to do that so what the hell am I supposed to do? That tizzy I created provided a lot of discussions that could be used for reads which is how my scum reads on LC and Jay came to fruition.

Elaborate. Elucidate.
I dunno. Create #content.

Anything but what you're doing would be great.

TOTAL WITCH HUNT BAD FAKE NEWS CROOKED MEDIA BAD

das u rn

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:06 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:39 pm I'm voting for Dragomir. I'm probably wrong. I don't care. I do stupid things. Like chase cars.

This really pisses me off. Epi is bad.

L O L

Are you trying to say that all I've been doing is just say that the accusations against me are fake and bad?

Mostly. Yeah.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:13 am Why do you guys think Dragomir ignored my post about him?

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:15 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:13 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:09 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:08 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm I just got massively screwed by J. Williams in the DET-GBP game sliding on his ass on purpose in front of the end zone to let Crosby kick a field goal. I didn't lose anything, but damn. What could have been.

That said, the officiating sucked in favor of GBP. Two face mask penalties on Flowers? Guy has never had one and shouldn't have had either tonight.

In that game, the dogs lost. Let it not be so here.

Detriot should have 100% won that game. I'm more infuriated by the Browns and Seahawks game though. Browns had every chance to win the game but they blew it.

I can't see this image.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:59 am Nothing changed. I still like tizzies. Else I wouldnt had engaged myself in this.

The question rather is if you are the same civillian JJJ from the other game? I'd say no.

Back then (persona game) you got heavily pressured and then you started your rational and well thought civillian play. Now I feel things are differently. You dont do your analysis you are underwhelming in contrast to your previous plays.

So JJJ tell me what changed?

You didnt come any further than saying "rej is lackluster he is a wolf".

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:19 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:12 am Are you trying to say that all I've been doing is just say that the accusations against me are fake and bad?

Mostly. Yeah.

I hard disagree but I won't argue.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:09 am I don't even need to hear NAY!

I need to her solutions. What's your plan?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:58 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:37 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:07 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:01 pm I don't feel like explaining my town read on Jay. Nothing scummy about that.

There mustn’t be much to it, the thread is still a baby. There’s little effort needed here, lad. Why don’t you feel like it?

I don't want to explain reads that I'm not very serious about.

Sure.

How about instead of explaining the read itself, you talk about why you made the post.

I just felt like doing that.

Ok how about talking about why you felt that way?

>Trying to go with the grain
>Hiding behind off-radar and focusing his attacks on an already suspected target. Similar to the first point.

LC = bad for me. It's only one post. A bit too early to tell if this is the direction that LC is going for the day with. Because of those 2 things, I'm not married to this read, but this is how I feel right now.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:58 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:37 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:07 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:01 pm I don't feel like explaining my town read on Jay. Nothing scummy about that.

There mustn’t be much to it, the thread is still a baby. There’s little effort needed here, lad. Why don’t you feel like it?

I don't want to explain reads that I'm not very serious about.

Sure.

How about instead of explaining the read itself, you talk about why you made the post.

I just felt like doing that.

Ok how about talking about why you felt that way?

>Trying to go with the grain
>Hiding behind off-radar and focusing his attacks on an already suspected target. Similar to the first point.

LC = bad for me. It's only one post. A bit too early to tell if this is the direction that LC is going for the day with. Because of those 2 things, I'm not married to this read, but this is how I feel right now.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:14 am What isn't lacking about his read of you?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:04 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:19 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:12 am Are you trying to say that all I've been doing is just say that the accusations against me are fake and bad?

Mostly. Yeah.

I hard disagree but I won't argue.

I think this is the crux of things innit? I would guess that many people in this thread have a similar interpretation of your play to Dom (those who disagree can interject).

So I would like to officially give you this exclusive opportunity to rail against your accusers and say NAY! I have done MORE than you say I have done! Just jot down a quick list of all of your contributions to this point as you perceive and remember them.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:15 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:30 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:58 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:37 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:07 pm

There mustn’t be much to it, the thread is still a baby. There’s little effort needed here, lad. Why don’t you feel like it?

I don't want to explain reads that I'm not very serious about.

Sure.

How about instead of explaining the read itself, you talk about why you made the post.

I just felt like doing that.

Ok how about talking about why you felt that way?

>Trying to go with the grain
>Hiding behind off-radar and focusing his attacks on an already suspected target. Similar to the first point.

LC = bad for me. It's only one post. A bit too early to tell if this is the direction that LC is going for the day with. Because of those 2 things, I'm not married to this read, but this is how I feel right now.

And LC?

Why am I not suspicious off the same logic?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:26 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:04 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:19 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:12 am Are you trying to say that all I've been doing is just say that the accusations against me are fake and bad?

Mostly. Yeah.

I hard disagree but I won't argue.

I think this is the crux of things innit? I would guess that many people in this thread have a similar interpretation of your play to Dom (those who disagree can interject).

So I would like to officially give you this exclusive opportunity to rail against your accusers and say NAY! I have done MORE than you say I have done! Just jot down a quick list of all of your contributions to this point as you perceive and remember them.

I'd rather not. I see that there's no convincing you guys to my side so I'd rather not spend energy on something that won't help. You could always do it for me though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:14 am What isn't lacking about his read of you?

Maybe “lacking” is the wrong word. “Disingenuous” is better. His suspicion of me wasn’t “well-founded”, but that means nothing to me compared to “was it genuine?”

He has fielded suspicion from a ton of people in this game and he hasn’t suspected them all. What I feel @Dragomir has struggled to do is to explain in clear terms what the differences are — something you understandably don’t care for Dom. I am tasking myself with digging into the following distinction:

Dragomir has failed to explain all of his reads effectively because they are not real.

Dragomir has failed to explain all of his reads effectively because he doesn’t entirely know how.

Reminder to self to look at the Scrimmage game where Dragomir was a civilian and faced constant misguided pressure.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:26 am I hard-debunked the stuff against me already anyway.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:31 am Based on what you just said to me I’d lean the former. When I get to my computer I will dig.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:08 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:54 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:48 pm I like this. People scum reading me. More of what I'm used to.

...??????

What's so confusing?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:32 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:31 am Based on what you just said to me I’d lean the former. When I get to my computer I will dig.

*Smashes keyboard*

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:58 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:59 am Nothing changed. I still like tizzies. Else I wouldnt had engaged myself in this.

The question rather is if you are the same civillian JJJ from the other game? I'd say no.

Back then (persona game) you got heavily pressured and then you started your rational and well thought civillian play. Now I feel things are differently. You dont do your analysis you are underwhelming in contrast to your previous plays.

So JJJ tell me what changed?

You didnt come any further than saying "rej is lackluster he is a wolf".

Expecting “analysis” right now, from anyone, is quite silly. Most players in this thread have < 20 posts. The content is relatively thin. Instead we operate with posts in real-time, and that’s what you see.

Moreover, the way you just reduced everything I have said about you to “Rej is lackluster” is ridiculous. Go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:07 am speedchuck - Conflicting views here. Having met speedchuck in person has made me reevaluate how I consider his posts. I have to think on him too.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:57 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:18 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:20 pm I don't get the scumreads on Dragomir. Sounds a bit forced by JJJ and novas, also it was quite a speedy jump.

Mac is looking OK

There was a thing with Sprityo and Michelle that bothered me. They just quoted each other and then dropped the D0 fluffing. It gave me a "picky" vibe.
I really wait for @sprityo and @Michelle post to deduct further about their alignment in the game.

Again about the above tizzy I feel like JJJ is town. It fits with his previous townplay of engagin agressively to collect as much data as possible from something, I like it and I wanna see more of it through the course of the game!

I am too tired to read a wolf in Drago or novas, in best case I want them to be town with us.

I will go sleep now, I hope I won't have to catch up that much pages when I am at work after I woke up.

Forced how?

Because they came too quick. Drago is easy to discuss and have a wagon formed on. Both civ and scum might know this.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:15 am Anyway taking the shit was crazy. But the damage done to toilette...ooof cant add gifs or memes on mobile...so sad.