The Syndicate

If Mac is truly an inventor, he should give his item to someone tonight and that person should claim

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:30 pm @MacDougall

Why should I believe you are an inventor and if I did, why would that make me believe you are town?

Who is bad?

Do a thing.

I don't care

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Sorry. I’m out of high speed data until tomorrow.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:04 pm So who you killing tonight Jack?

Speedchuck.

Interesting.

RIP sabie.

I have reason to doubt Luna is mafia, although it's not confirmed. Did anyone receive one of Mac's inventions?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:49 pm I have reason to doubt Luna is mafia, although it's not confirmed. Did anyone receive one of Mac's inventions?

What was all that N1 stuff about?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:50 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:49 pm I have reason to doubt Luna is mafia, although it's not confirmed. Did anyone receive one of Mac's inventions?

What was all that N1 stuff about?

Do you believe that we will likely find the last mafia today? If yes, I will tell you, if no, I will wait.

How about I wait 'til someone confirms they have received something from Mac, since if that happens there would be few people who the mafia could even be. If nobody does, though, I'm staying silent about this.

I got nothing.

Why Sabie?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:10 pm [VOTE: Leetic] aubergine

Is this supposed to be a pressure vote or something?

Nah, you're bad.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:14 pm Nah, you're bad.

Taking out Luna and Mac, that would leave juliets as our most suspicious user, so [VOTE: juliets] aubergine

[mention]MacDougal[/mention] did you give someone an invention and if so, who?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 pm Taking out Luna and Mac, that would leave juliets as our most suspicious user, so [VOTE: juliets] aubergine

RIP sable, I don't get why it was you.

Why am I the most suspicious? And what do you mean by "user"?

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:28 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 pm Taking out Luna and Mac, that would leave juliets as our most suspicious user, so [VOTE: juliets] aubergine

RIP sable, I don't get why it was you.

Why am I the most suspicious? And what do you mean by "user"?

The voting patterns make the three of you look the worst. Mac has a claim going for him (which needs to be verified, though), I have evidence in Lunalee's favor, so that leaves you. "User" is just how I refer to people, might just be something I carried from Bulba.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:31 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:28 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 pm Taking out Luna and Mac, that would leave juliets as our most suspicious user, so [VOTE: juliets] aubergine

RIP sable, I don't get why it was you.

Why am I the most suspicious? And what do you mean by "user"?

The voting patterns make the three of you look the worst. Mac has a claim going for him (which needs to be verified, though), I have evidence in Lunalee's favor, so that leaves you. "User" is just how I refer to people, might just be something I carried from Bulba.

Oh ok, just a terminology difference.

On the vote issue though, what didn't you like about my vote? Mac voted speed, Luna voted Jack, I voted DDL. I changed my vote from Jack late in the process, is that what bothers you?

I got nothing from Mac, as expected.

[mention]MacDougall[/mention]

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:16 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:14 pm Nah, you're bad.

Hinting at a power role during the night when that does nothing except put a target on your back, yet you're hesitant on expanding further right now.

Quite the contrast with Community Leetic.

Don't get me started on Luna allegedly being your night target, although she was featured fewer times than other suspects. I mean that was the whole your reason you "hinted" at having an ability.

And LOL at the "not confirmed".

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:47 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:16 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:14 pm Nah, you're bad.

Hinting at a power role during the night when that does nothing except put a target on your back, yet you're hesitant on expanding further right now.

Quite the contrast with Community Leetic.

I only claimed in that game when it was clear I would die anyway. Right now, it is not guaranteed... although it might still be strategically beneficial if I claim at some point. We'll see, I first want Mac to talk.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:48 pm Don't get me started on Luna allegedly being your night target, although she was featured fewer times than other suspects. I mean that was the whole your reason you "hinted" at having an ability.

I was originally gonna target Mac, but after his Inventor claim I switched.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:51 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:48 pm Don't get me started on Luna allegedly being your night target, although she was featured fewer times than other suspects. I mean that was the whole your reason you "hinted" at having an ability.

I was originally gonna target Mac, but after his Inventor claim I switched.

Why Luna over Jack/Speed who were the other names from your exercise?

Yeah, I don’t see the purpose of claiming unspecified power role unless it’s a joke to make the mafia spend time trying to figure out a role you aren’t.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:47 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:16 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:14 pm Nah, you're bad.

Hinting at a power role during the night when that does nothing except put a target on your back, yet you're hesitant on expanding further right now.

Quite the contrast with Community Leetic.

I only claimed in that game when it was clear I would die anyway. Right now, it is not guaranteed... although it might still be strategically beneficial if I claim at some point. We'll see, I first want Mac to talk.

Hinting at a power role in a 9 player game featuring generic roles is a death sentence. Especially when the hinting is asking for most suspicious player.

Anyway, everyone 'xept Luna and Mac have shown up, and no claims of having received an item yet. This means that either

a. Lunalee or Sabie were Mac's target (why would he target these though)
b. Mac is a big fat liar
c. For some reason, the person who received the item didn't speak up
d. The third power role screwed things up

Which do you think is most likely?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:51 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:48 pm Don't get me started on Luna allegedly being your night target, although she was featured fewer times than other suspects. I mean that was the whole your reason you "hinted" at having an ability.

I was originally gonna target Mac, but after his Inventor claim I switched.

Why Luna over Jack/Speed who were the other names from your exercise?

I simply thought she was more suspicious than the other two.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:56 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:47 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:16 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:14 pm Nah, you're bad.

Hinting at a power role during the night when that does nothing except put a target on your back, yet you're hesitant on expanding further right now.

Quite the contrast with Community Leetic.

I only claimed in that game when it was clear I would die anyway. Right now, it is not guaranteed... although it might still be strategically beneficial if I claim at some point. We'll see, I first want Mac to talk.

Hinting at a power role in a 9 player game featuring generic roles is a death sentence. Especially when the hinting is asking for most suspicious player.

I will claim later in this phase... But I want Mac to show up first.

What if Mac kept his stuff to himself?

Like inventor and gift giver isn’t necessarily the same thing.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:31 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:17 pm There's nothing going on. sabie12 you still around?

Luna, where’s your head at? Talk to me about your suspects. Gimmie some controversial opinions.

ok, you're scum, and Mac is probably dying tonight since he claimed inventor.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:58 pm Anyway, everyone 'xept Luna and Mac have shown up, and no claims of having received an item yet. This means that either

a. Lunalee or Sabie were Mac's target (why would he target these though)
b. Mac is a big fat liar
c. For some reason, the person who received the item didn't speak up
d. The third power role screwed things up

Which do you think is most likely?

But why would they?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:31 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:58 pm Anyway, everyone 'xept Luna and Mac have shown up, and no claims of having received an item yet. This means that either

a. Lunalee or Sabie were Mac's target (why would he target these though)
b. Mac is a big fat liar
c. For some reason, the person who received the item didn't speak up
d. The third power role screwed things up

Which do you think is most likely?

But why would they?

If they're mafia, they might not speak up to try and secure a Mac mislynch. Still though, that'd be incredibly risky if Mac outed them as the one who he gave the item to, so I really don't see why someone would withhold this information. Since you don't seem to have received the item... I swear, if Mac says he gave the item to sabie...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:18 pm What if Mac kept his stuff to himself?

Like inventor and gift giver isn’t necessarily the same thing.

At least where I come from, they typically are, but still, Mac should've given it to someone to confirm his claim. If he kept them to himself, that'd be mighty convenient...

Well if there's no one who will claim to have received an item (sabie would be too convenient), I can't give Mac much town points for his claim. I'll keep my vote on him until he can offer an explanation.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:30 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:31 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:17 pm There's nothing going on. sabie12 you still around?

Luna, where’s your head at? Talk to me about your suspects. Gimmie some controversial opinions.

ok, you're scum, and Mac is probably dying tonight since he claimed inventor.

He claimed inventor long before the night ended and Sabie died.

I caught DDL. My case. Outta your tunnel and do something.

I did ask for controversial opinions lol.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:43 pm I did ask for controversial opinions lol.

sorry, I was still in night 1 mode. Didn't scroll back far enough to see sabie had already died.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:43 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:30 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:31 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:17 pm There's nothing going on. sabie12 you still around?

Luna, where’s your head at? Talk to me about your suspects. Gimmie some controversial opinions.

ok, you're scum, and Mac is probably dying tonight since he claimed inventor.

He claimed inventor long before the night ended and Sabie died.

I caught DDL. My case. Outta your tunnel and do something.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:49 pm I don't mind a DDL lynch either. Jack has made a salient point, and it's certainly a more conventional tell than what I spotted. :P

Plus I scumread DDL first.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:05 pm [VOTE: DDL] aubergine

April Fools!

This is the worst DDL vote I believe

I gave sabie a one shot lie detection. Yes it's awfully convenient. C'est la vie. I thought she was under the radar enough to avoid being shit and looked good from day one.

I have left a one shot vanilla detection and a one night btsc.

I claimed because apparently I was in a small POE so I figured by claiming it'd clear things up but apparently people believe I'd make this shit up on day 2 rather than just play normally. It is whatever.

Good guess at who I'd give an invention to.

Lunalee is a civ. Nova seems town. Everyone else is pingy.

I don't know what to think of Mac, I need to think through whether it really makes sense that he would lie about this.

I got side tracked yesterday from re-reading some people but I will do it today after I get home from work. I feel good about nova and pretty good about Luna going in so I'll put them last on the list.

I'll be gone to work again until this afternoon sometime.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:17 am I gave sabie a one shot lie detection. Yes it's awfully convenient. C'est la vie. I thought she was under the radar enough to avoid being shit and looked good from day one.

I have left a one shot vanilla detection and a one night btsc.

I claimed because apparently I was in a small POE so I figured by claiming it'd clear things up but apparently people believe I'd make this shit up on day 2 rather than just play normally. It is whatever.

Good guess at who I'd give an invention to.

I’d believe you if Sabie hadn’t died.

I don’t think scum kills Sabie to try to spike an inventor claim.

Assumes you can give items. Assumes you give an item to Sabie. Assumes you live and die off your power being confirmed even though it’s arguably NAI. Assumes we don’t give you a day to try again. How many kills does a wolf use trying to mislynch a PR? Cause if you use one, you have to consider using several.

Nah. That’s not why Sabie died. The question is if Sabie died so you could sell this story.

7 players. Assuming 1 wolf and no extra kills or stopped kills, POE is 3.

Mac, Speed, Juliets.

Case on Mac: Ignores DDL case, promotes alternative suspects, N1 target is super convenient

Trust fall Mac: Probably 1-2 town PRs and 0-1 scum PRs. Just claiming PR is good.

Case Speed: Treats DDL like he’s bussing him ie pushing the same way until it isn’t viable and taking undeserved credit. Acts like I’m going to kill him for suspecting me makes it look like he knows I’m town.

Trust fall Speed: Idk. I had a decent reason but I forgot it. Will update.

Case Juliets: Quotes the post immediately following the DDL case but when Nova basically restates the DDL case, acts like this is new information. Votes DDL after momentum has turned so this comes across as fake.

Trust fall Juliets: Going to find a specific game where DDL did something that makes him look scummy here is not effort I expect to see from a goon that decides to bus late in the day.