Bike [END]

[Hally]

i don’t really think i’ve been frustrated this game either tbh. or not frustrated at anyone else but myself really

[tutuu]

if i had to rank the order of expressed frustrations in how genuine i found them:

(from top to bottom)

master radishes
hally
long con
marmot

seanzie actually hasnt expressed frustration tbh

but regardless of any of this i simply want to kill MR. everyone else has aided in chopping wolves. MR has not done that. sure he could be town but that doesn't mean its logical to yeet someone else imo

but i probably need to back it up with more behidn why i townread everyone else

and i dont wanna do that yet

[Marmot]

She did start finding me again when she got to later posts, I was reacting to the earlier ones I guess. Just use your words next time to start.

My main concern is not that you're accusing Hally of doing the wrong thing, but that you're focusing a lot of attention on getting me chopped when I know perfectly well that I shouldn't be, and that you've found no reason for me to be town when there is plenty of reason for me to be town.


I'm not upset, but I am riled up.

I'm riled up too. Last night Hally and tutuu were fighting over who gets to put more floral garlands around my neck, and this morning I wake up to twenty posts from Hally in a row calling every post I have made this game scummy. I'm just starting to respond to it when Smarmot comes in with single-emoji-post sass.

Remember when I corrected you that I scumread Epignosis (you thought otherwise), and you decided that I must therefore be his teammate?

Ok, maybe it didn't exactly go like that. But I just don't understand how you came to that conclusion.

I remember. I just don't see how you can say you don't understand when I said it pretty plainly when I was looking at your posts.

Like... I quoted your posts and said why I thought they were teammate-indicative. You only put pressure on him when it was safe, and never when he was in danger.

I explained my MR vote yesterday in a different post where I talked about why I was focused on the consensus poe, and that was the reason I didn't vote Epignosis yesterday. But I did encourage other people to include him in their poe.

I can't do anything about the things Epi has said to/about me. Those are things he said.

[Long Con]

I don't want it to be Marmot because that would make, what was it, 6 games in a row as scum? I can't fathom that.



On a serious note, surely w!Marmot would continue to play in a style that's worked, and I think I've seen people say this doesn't look all that similar to previous w!Marmot games? But tbh I just don't want to do the work of casing anyone else if I can get away with not doing it.

Did he win those games? Are those stats legit? 6 in a row??

[Hally]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

[Master Radishes]

What's the latest stance on Seanzie btw? I've missed any reason why he's not a part of this conversation.

[Long Con]

What's the latest stance on Seanzie btw? I've missed any reason why he's not a part of this conversation.

Total purity off Made interactions, I think.

[Master Radishes]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

[Hally]

Nope, one more bit of confbias.

LC felt grumpy not long ago, and suddenly his attitude feels light and jokey.

Feels like a sudden and deliberate shift.



....Okay now I'll stop tunneling. For now.

i like this observation but i’m also light and jokey now too

but i don’t get his hugging emoji to you. what is that about?

[tutuu]

I don't want it to be Marmot because that would make, what was it, 6 games in a row as scum? I can't fathom that.



On a serious note, surely w!Marmot would continue to play in a style that's worked, and I think I've seen people say this doesn't look all that similar to previous w!Marmot games? But tbh I just don't want to do the work of casing anyone else if I can get away with not doing it.

Did he win those games? Are those stats legit? 6 in a row??

he had 5 scum games in a row and won 4. well technically 3 cuz one was decided to be "no contest" due to multiple game integrity issues but i count that as a win

[Marmot]

I don't want it to be Marmot because that would make, what was it, 6 games in a row as scum? I can't fathom that.



On a serious note, surely w!Marmot would continue to play in a style that's worked, and I think I've seen people say this doesn't look all that similar to previous w!Marmot games? But tbh I just don't want to do the work of casing anyone else if I can get away with not doing it.

If we get to F3 and I'm chopped for this reasoning, I will go angular fish on everyone involved.

[Long Con]

but i count that as a win

nah

[tutuu]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

can you link this latest wolf game of yours and also

can u think over this claim of yours that you're never sassy and never fake frustration as mafia? are you sure? double sure? completely sure?

[Master Radishes]

if i had to rank the order of expressed frustrations in how genuine i found them:

(from top to bottom)

master radishes
hally
long con
marmot

seanzie actually hasnt expressed frustration tbh

but regardless of any of this i simply want to kill MR. everyone else has aided in chopping wolves. MR has not done that. sure he could be town but that doesn't mean its logical to yeet someone else imo

but i probably need to back it up with more behidn why i townread everyone else

and i dont wanna do that yet

You found me genuine but want to chop me still?

I don't mind someone wanting to kill me off - your explanation is sadly fair - but your stance here confuses me.

[Marmot]

I don't want it to be Marmot because that would make, what was it, 6 games in a row as scum? I can't fathom that.



On a serious note, surely w!Marmot would continue to play in a style that's worked, and I think I've seen people say this doesn't look all that similar to previous w!Marmot games? But tbh I just don't want to do the work of casing anyone else if I can get away with not doing it.

Did he win those games? Are those stats legit? 6 in a row??

5 in a row

3 wins, 1 loss, and 1 draw (that would have been a win because tutuu is so amazing, town had no choice but to break rules to not lose)

[Hally]

What's the latest stance on Seanzie btw? I've missed any reason why he's not a part of this conversation.

he pushed epi the most of anyone and epi pushed him since D0

[tutuu]

but i count that as a win

nah

mischop alison into mischop esooa. it was a win. easy one too

[Marmot]

What's the latest stance on Seanzie btw? I've missed any reason why he's not a part of this conversation.

Total purity off Made interactions, I think.

Add to that his constant hounding of Epi and we have a townie

[Master Radishes]

Nope, one more bit of confbias.

LC felt grumpy not long ago, and suddenly his attitude feels light and jokey.

Feels like a sudden and deliberate shift.



....Okay now I'll stop tunneling. For now.

i like this observation but i’m also light and jokey now too

but i don’t get his hugging emoji to you. what is that about?

I assume he's being comforting because I've clearly had a bad game and am desperate to have something put me in a good light.


(...but no, I don't get why v!LC, seeing the slanker come after him too, reacts that way.)

[Master Radishes]

Btw thanks everyone for Seanzie explanation. I'm good with putting him aside, just wasn't sure why based on not reading everything in D3 yet.

[Hally]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

why do you think i stopped pushing you D1? i literally thought to myself “radishes is frustrating me so he’s probably town”

[tutuu]

if i had to rank the order of expressed frustrations in how genuine i found them:

(from top to bottom)

master radishes
hally
long con
marmot

seanzie actually hasnt expressed frustration tbh

but regardless of any of this i simply want to kill MR. everyone else has aided in chopping wolves. MR has not done that. sure he could be town but that doesn't mean its logical to yeet someone else imo

but i probably need to back it up with more behidn why i townread everyone else

and i dont wanna do that yet

You found me genuine but want to chop me still?

I don't mind someone wanting to kill me off - your explanation is sadly fair - but your stance here confuses me.

i find you the winner i tnerms of townyness in th regards of whose frustratio ni found the most genuine

i find you the loser in terms of townyness of who has killed wolves

im comparing the two and deciding to put more weight on the latter since youre not a new player and i belive youre probably capable of faking the former

[Master Radishes]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

can you link this latest wolf game of yours and also

can u think over this claim of yours that you're never sassy and never fake frustration as mafia? are you sure? double sure? completely sure?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ung-Heroes
Around D3 (?) it was Christmas and I wasn't around and soah sussed me out and I ended up NKed due to mech. But up to that point I was doing well.


Also I don't get what you're referring to...did I sass you as a wolf?

[Hally]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

can you link this latest wolf game of yours and also

can u think over this claim of yours that you're never sassy and never fake frustration as mafia? are you sure? double sure? completely sure?

that’s not what he’s saying. he’s saying he frustrates people more as town because he gives less of a shit, which is true

[Master Radishes]

if i had to rank the order of expressed frustrations in how genuine i found them:

(from top to bottom)

master radishes
hally
long con
marmot

seanzie actually hasnt expressed frustration tbh

but regardless of any of this i simply want to kill MR. everyone else has aided in chopping wolves. MR has not done that. sure he could be town but that doesn't mean its logical to yeet someone else imo

but i probably need to back it up with more behidn why i townread everyone else

and i dont wanna do that yet

You found me genuine but want to chop me still?

I don't mind someone wanting to kill me off - your explanation is sadly fair - but your stance here confuses me.

i find you the winner i tnerms of townyness in th regards of whose frustratio ni found the most genuine

i find you the loser in terms of townyness of who has killed wolves

im comparing the two and deciding to put more weight on the latter since youre not a new player and i belive youre probably capable of faking the former

Got it.

Your conclusion is fair enough in italics.

[tutuu]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

can you link this latest wolf game of yours and also

can u think over this claim of yours that you're never sassy and never fake frustration as mafia? are you sure? double sure? completely sure?

that’s not what he’s saying. he’s saying he frustrates people more as town because he gives less of a shit, which is true

that's not what he's saying. he's saying that he only does it as town, as written in his post

[Marmot]

No video mafia, looks like I can do vote analysis

[Hally]

Nope, one more bit of confbias.

LC felt grumpy not long ago, and suddenly his attitude feels light and jokey.

Feels like a sudden and deliberate shift.



....Okay now I'll stop tunneling. For now.

i like this observation but i’m also light and jokey now too

but i don’t get his hugging emoji to you. what is that about?

I assume he's being comforting because I've clearly had a bad game and am desperate to have something put me in a good light.


(...but no, I don't get why v!LC, seeing the slanker come after him too, reacts that way.)

but that requires him to think you’re town? and be weirdly okay with you suspecting him? that he hugs you? i’m just confused by that reaction but i might be nitpicking

[tutuu]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

can you link this latest wolf game of yours and also

can u think over this claim of yours that you're never sassy and never fake frustration as mafia? are you sure? double sure? completely sure?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ung-Heroes
Around D3 (?) it was Christmas and I wasn't around and soah sussed me out and I ended up NKed due to mech. But up to that point I was doing well.


Also I don't get what you're referring to...did I sass you as a wolf?

answer the question wolf

in all of your mafia career have you not once faked frustration as mafia

do you double down on this claim or rescind

[Hally]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

can you link this latest wolf game of yours and also

can u think over this claim of yours that you're never sassy and never fake frustration as mafia? are you sure? double sure? completely sure?

that’s not what he’s saying. he’s saying he frustrates people more as town because he gives less of a shit, which is true

that's not what he's saying. he's saying that he only does it as town, as written in his post

i mean, i’ve only ever seen him do it as town but i haven’t seen every game he’s played so i dunno

[Master Radishes]

Nope, one more bit of confbias.

LC felt grumpy not long ago, and suddenly his attitude feels light and jokey.

Feels like a sudden and deliberate shift.



....Okay now I'll stop tunneling. For now.

i like this observation but i’m also light and jokey now too

but i don’t get his hugging emoji to you. what is that about?

I assume he's being comforting because I've clearly had a bad game and am desperate to have something put me in a good light.


(...but no, I don't get why v!LC, seeing the slanker come after him too, reacts that way.)

but that requires him to think you’re town? and be weirdly okay with you suspecting him? that he hugs you? i’m just confused by that reaction but i might be nitpicking

I agree it's...not what I was expecting.

If I'm a vill and slanky mcslankerson starts sussing me after supa townie Hally does, I think I get more frustrated and claim opportunism. I don't send a huggy emoji.


Anyway, dipping now. I'll return to solve the game with you later.

[Long Con]

Nope, one more bit of confbias.

LC felt grumpy not long ago, and suddenly his attitude feels light and jokey.

Feels like a sudden and deliberate shift.



....Okay now I'll stop tunneling. For now.

i like this observation but i’m also light and jokey now too

but i don’t get his hugging emoji to you. what is that about?

I assume he's being comforting because I've clearly had a bad game and am desperate to have something put me in a good light.


(...but no, I don't get why v!LC, seeing the slanker come after him too, reacts that way.)

but that requires him to think you’re town? and be weirdly okay with you suspecting him? that he hugs you? i’m just confused by that reaction but i might be nitpicking

I was hugging him because he said he had a bad game. It wasn't a commentary on the state of his suspicions or his alignment.

[Hally]

sassiness is not the same as frustration tutuu. he said he’s not sassy as wolf to the point of frustrating people, not that he himself never fakes frustration as wolf

[Master Radishes]

actually that’s a lie, radishes’s slanking D1 did frustrate me a bit

Tbh this should just lock me town.

I've made people flip tables with my sassiness before on many occasions, and I know you can't just take my word for it but I'm certain I've only ever done that as town.

can you link this latest wolf game of yours and also

can u think over this claim of yours that you're never sassy and never fake frustration as mafia? are you sure? double sure? completely sure?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ung-Heroes
Around D3 (?) it was Christmas and I wasn't around and soah sussed me out and I ended up NKed due to mech. But up to that point I was doing well.


Also I don't get what you're referring to...did I sass you as a wolf?

answer the question wolf

in all of your mafia career have you not once faked frustration as mafia

do you double down on this claim or rescind

I'm sure I've faked it, but to the point of actually getting people openly annoyed at me? The only examples I remember come from me being town. I don't remember every game I've ever played though.

[tutuu]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost4541729

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost4541787

this is frmo his mafia game

i will be reading this entire iso

so far these two posts remind me of hwo he treated dizzy at th start of day 1 this game

[Hally]

Nope, one more bit of confbias.

LC felt grumpy not long ago, and suddenly his attitude feels light and jokey.

Feels like a sudden and deliberate shift.



....Okay now I'll stop tunneling. For now.

i like this observation but i’m also light and jokey now too

but i don’t get his hugging emoji to you. what is that about?

I assume he's being comforting because I've clearly had a bad game and am desperate to have something put me in a good light.


(...but no, I don't get why v!LC, seeing the slanker come after him too, reacts that way.)

but that requires him to think you’re town? and be weirdly okay with you suspecting him? that he hugs you? i’m just confused by that reaction but i might be nitpicking

I was hugging him because he said he had a bad game. It wasn't a commentary on the state of his suspicions or his alignment.

can you offer a commentary on the state of his suspicions and his alignment then?

[Long Con]

Like I don't know if it's wolf MR trying to take me down, or town MR having a very bad game. The hug is pretty good either way.

[tutuu]

sassiness is not the same as frustration tutuu. he said he’s not sassy as wolf to the point of frustrating people, not that he himself never fakes frustration as wolf

that is yet again not what he's saying

stop telling me what he's saying, i am reading his posts myself

[Long Con]

Nope, one more bit of confbias.

LC felt grumpy not long ago, and suddenly his attitude feels light and jokey.

Feels like a sudden and deliberate shift.



....Okay now I'll stop tunneling. For now.

i like this observation but i’m also light and jokey now too

but i don’t get his hugging emoji to you. what is that about?

I assume he's being comforting because I've clearly had a bad game and am desperate to have something put me in a good light.


(...but no, I don't get why v!LC, seeing the slanker come after him too, reacts that way.)

but that requires him to think you’re town? and be weirdly okay with you suspecting him? that he hugs you? i’m just confused by that reaction but i might be nitpicking

I was hugging him because he said he had a bad game. It wasn't a commentary on the state of his suspicions or his alignment.

can you offer a commentary on the state of his suspicions and his alignment then?

Not right now. I'm trying to exit this conversation because it's gone on too long at this time, and I want to get going with my day. We have entirely too much time to talk about all these things, frankly. I'll be back later.

[Hally]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost4541729

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost4541787

this is frmo his mafia game

i will be reading this entire iso

so far these two posts remind me of hwo he treated dizzy at th start of day 1 this game

ftr this is why i pegged him as a wolf when i subbed in. i have a theory that radishes always tries to pocket people early on as scum. but looking back i don’t think his posts to dizzy were actually serious, whereas usually when he pockets someone as scum it’s framed as a serious read

[Long Con]

I'm just addicted to reading New Posts right now. I have to go out and stop looking.

[Hally]

Like I don't know if it's wolf MR trying to take me down, or town MR having a very bad game. The hug is pretty good either way.

you want to hug him if he’s a wolf?

[Hally]

sassiness is not the same as frustration tutuu. he said he’s not sassy as wolf to the point of frustrating people, not that he himself never fakes frustration as wolf

that is yet again not what he's saying

stop telling me what he's saying, i am reading his posts myself

@Master Radishes what are you saying?

[Long Con]

Like I don't know if it's wolf MR trying to take me down, or town MR having a very bad game. The hug is pretty good either way.

you want to hug him if he’s a wolf?

The hug would have a mocking interpretation in that event.

Please let me go.

[Hally]

Like I don't know if it's wolf MR trying to take me down, or town MR having a very bad game. The hug is pretty good either way.

you want to hug him if he’s a wolf?

The hug would have a mocking interpretation in that event.

Please let me go.

ok

[Marmot]

Wolves are cute and huggable

I'm a marmot and I'm even saying that

[Master Radishes]

sassiness is not the same as frustration tutuu. he said he’s not sassy as wolf to the point of frustrating people, not that he himself never fakes frustration as wolf

that is yet again not what he's saying

stop telling me what he's saying, i am reading his posts myself

@Master Radishes what are you saying?

Exactly how you're interpreting it. Tutuu is being very literal.


Now everyone stop posting for two minutes so I can stop refreshing.

[Marmot]

Food chain

Wolf ==> Marmot ==> Radish


It makes no sense for MR to be a wolf

[Hally]

Food chain

Wolf ==> Marmot ==> Radish


It makes no sense for MR to be a wolf

hmmyes

[Marmot]

Why are we letting MR get away with going all round without playing properly?

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Oh wait there's two marmots in this game!!!

Radishes are natural predators of marmots.

Waaaaaaaaaaait

MR wolf confirmed!!!!!!