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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:14 pm
by S~V~S
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:11 pm So we only need to watch out for the opposite of Diligence and Kindness at the moment. so its technically 3vX+Y
What do you mean? Does it spell that out somewhere and I missed it?

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 pm
by S~V~S
Also [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 pm
by Seanzie
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
Is it? At the end of the day we need to find John Doe.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:16 pm
by Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:01 pm Based
Tell me more.
Dead sins are good
Work with me here, Nook.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:18 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:01 pm Based
Tell me more.
Dead sins are good
Work with me here, Nook.
I mean that's what's based lol

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:19 pm
by Thunal33
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
Is it? At the end of the day we need to find John Doe.
Well it's day 3 and we've already killed 2 baddies with one more outed. It's a lot better than I expected from a game where baddies can genuinely solve.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:19 pm
by Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:01 pm Based
Tell me more.
Dead sins are good
Work with me here, Nook.
I mean that's what's based lol
Tell me about your worldview.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:22 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:01 pm Based
Tell me more.
Dead sins are good
Work with me here, Nook.
I mean that's what's based lol
Tell me about your worldview.
I'm gonna sheep mac probably

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:25 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
S~V~S wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:11 pm So we only need to watch out for the opposite of Diligence and Kindness at the moment. so its technically 3vX+Y
What do you mean? Does it spell that out somewhere and I missed it?
no my own personal theory that I had yesterday born out by the fact that pyxxy was mafia and not 3p

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:27 pm
by Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually
Tell me about Thun.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:29 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually
Tell me about Thun.
I think she's town and I know she's smart

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:32 pm
by Thunal33
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually
Cool, I'm very sheepable. You should vote Dennis.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:33 pm
by Thunal33
I see you've already sheeped me.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:38 pm
by Scotty
Tutuu is still listed in the poll due to host error. Please do not vote tutuu in the poll

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:39 pm
by Thunal33
Here's some interesting mech info. From Kate's role:
-You will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.

So if pyxxy's conversion was similar, then he wouldn't have BTSC with John Doe d2. I'm not sure if "a full phase" means day and night cycle or just a day phase.

And I noticed last night that John Doe has a profile in the setup roles spoiler. Here's the only thing on conversion from it:
You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???

So John Doe would know pyxxy's alignment, but would pyxxy know John Doe's alignment? I'd guess so and I'll solve in a world where he does but it's possible he doesn't.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:48 pm
by Seanzie
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:39 pm Here's some interesting mech info. From Kate's role:
-You will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.

So if pyxxy's conversion was similar, then he wouldn't have BTSC with John Doe d2. I'm not sure if "a full phase" means day and night cycle or just a day phase.

And I noticed last night that John Doe has a profile in the setup roles spoiler. Here's the only thing on conversion from it:
You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???

So John Doe would know pyxxy's alignment, but would pyxxy know John Doe's alignment? I'd guess so and I'll solve in a world where he does but it's possible he doesn't.
Tell me about your current worldview.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:55 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
[VOTE: Vote Dennis] aubergine

Nervous about numbers given everything but hey, 1 yesterday, 1 today, 1 last night. We're doing okay.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm
by Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:55 pm [VOTE: Vote Dennis] aubergine

Nervous about numbers given everything but hey, 1 yesterday, 1 today, 1 last night. We're doing okay.
Tell me about everyone.... except Dennis.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Yes, we need to find John Doe, but given that Kate's role shows she wins as LMS if she didn't become mafia, I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that we need to eliminate all sins in addition to JD.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Back to system shock pew pew pew

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
by MacDougall
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
by MacDougall
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm Yes, we need to find John Doe, but given that Kate's role shows she wins as LMS if she didn't become mafia, I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that we need to eliminate all sins in addition to JD.
Wolfy as fuck bruv. Wolfy as fuck lol.

I, as the new president, speak on behalf of all town when I say that hell the fuck no am I comfortable with the idea of going after sins and not JD. You sound evil as shit. You evil?

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
by Thunal33
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:48 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:39 pm Here's some interesting mech info. From Kate's role:
-You will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.

So if pyxxy's conversion was similar, then he wouldn't have BTSC with John Doe d2. I'm not sure if "a full phase" means day and night cycle or just a day phase.

And I noticed last night that John Doe has a profile in the setup roles spoiler. Here's the only thing on conversion from it:
You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???

So John Doe would know pyxxy's alignment, but would pyxxy know John Doe's alignment? I'd guess so and I'll solve in a world where he does but it's possible he doesn't.
Tell me about your current worldview.
Rn from what I've learned from how sins act I think baddies may play in a way that's different from their usual play, even if that difference doesn't translate to TMI. Falcon and Roxy are in my PoE since they both come across as different from their usual game. I had a tinfoil on SVS but I don't think that's true because from what you said Kate had a real townread on her.

I have a cool theory that might narrow down who John Doe could be. Assuming pyxxy does know the identity of John Doe, he made a post SOD2 saying he thought DOOM was killed for non-setup related reasons. I read into this post as genuine so I think John Doe is someone pyxxy could believe killed DOOM for non-setup reasons. Off the top of my head that means, say, Mac isn't John Doe since I couldn't imagine him killing anyone for non-setup reasons and pyxxy would know that. I'll look into who else fits that category.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
3/7+1= 3 dead, 3 mafia, 2 3p. So we are basically 3/2/10, with the potential of 4/1/8 tomorrow and 5/0/6 the day after (Assuming 2 deaths per night and worst case scenario on virtues)

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm Yes, we need to find John Doe, but given that Kate's role shows she wins as LMS if she didn't become mafia, I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that we need to eliminate all sins in addition to JD.
Wolfy as fuck bruv. Wolfy as fuck lol.

I, as the new president, speak on behalf of all town when I say that hell the fuck no am I comfortable with the idea of going after sins and not JD. You sound evil as shit. You evil?
Who said anything about not going after JD. I'm saying we can't win without eliminating both groups and Dennis fucking hardclaimed wolf.

Besides, I can self confirm so fuck off. :beer:

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:02 pm
by Seanzie
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.
Outside of Porscha (and Seanzie, king of town), I ain't doing to bad.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Also, mafia aren't evil, they're just misunderstood. Don't be so judgy.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
by MacDougall
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm Yes, we need to find John Doe, but given that Kate's role shows she wins as LMS if she didn't become mafia, I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that we need to eliminate all sins in addition to JD.
Wolfy as fuck bruv. Wolfy as fuck lol.

I, as the new president, speak on behalf of all town when I say that hell the fuck no am I comfortable with the idea of going after sins and not JD. You sound evil as shit. You evil?
Who said anything about not going after JD. I'm saying we can't win without eliminating both groups and Dennis fucking hardclaimed wolf.

Besides, I can self confirm so fuck off. :beer:
I'm watching you. :eye:

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
by MacDougall
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.
Outside of Porscha (and Seanzie, king of town), I ain't doing to bad.
Eh the jury is out on you. Someone messaged me telling me it'd be wise to vote for you lol.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm Yes, we need to find John Doe, but given that Kate's role shows she wins as LMS if she didn't become mafia, I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that we need to eliminate all sins in addition to JD.
Wolfy as fuck bruv. Wolfy as fuck lol.

I, as the new president, speak on behalf of all town when I say that hell the fuck no am I comfortable with the idea of going after sins and not JD. You sound evil as shit. You evil?
Who said anything about not going after JD. I'm saying we can't win without eliminating both groups and Dennis fucking hardclaimed wolf.

Besides, I can self confirm so fuck off. :beer:
how are you self confirming?

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:05 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:57 pm Yes, we need to find John Doe, but given that Kate's role shows she wins as LMS if she didn't become mafia, I'm pretty comfortable with the idea that we need to eliminate all sins in addition to JD.
Wolfy as fuck bruv. Wolfy as fuck lol.

I, as the new president, speak on behalf of all town when I say that hell the fuck no am I comfortable with the idea of going after sins and not JD. You sound evil as shit. You evil?
Who said anything about not going after JD. I'm saying we can't win without eliminating both groups and Dennis fucking hardclaimed wolf.

Besides, I can self confirm so fuck off. :beer:
how are you self confirming?
With my giant
Spoiler: show
brain. :noble:

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:05 pm
by Thunal33
pyxxy wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:38 amhi rondo
This leans w/w with Rondo. Pyxxy's d1 takes talked about different people than his d2 takes. He paid attention to tutuu and Rondo d1 yet didn’t say anything about them d2 except for this. Pyxxy didn't have BTSC with John Doe and this makes me paranoid that it was a signal to him.
pyxxy wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:38 pm
I think whoever killed doom did it for non-setup-related reasons

either they wanted her to take a break (but missed that she dropped the class) or they were actually annoyed by the off-topic posting

I put myself in the former category except I saw the drop message + in.....Cosmere? there was a game with me and doom and my biggest takeaway is that sometimes she just shares shit and if it makes me squint + confused then she's town. sample size like 2-3 games though
This post reads to me as truthful. Assuming pyxxy does know who John Doe is, I think he would believe that John Doe would kill someone for non-setup related reasons.
pyxxy wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:27 am
*slams the yes button while tears of pride stream down my face*
He said his role and I didn’t even think about it lol.
pyxxy wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:36 am

any chance you've got a theme/setup/movie-plot-related reason to think this

I watched the first episode of Twin Peaks instead of Se7en without knowing that ep 1 was basically as long as a movie

back on the topic at hand

from what Seanzie said it didn't seem like Kate had a way to win with town


hmmmmmm okay so grain of salt like Seanzie said, but iirc Seanzie said he was posing as a sin? so (heavy fan theories here -->) maybe Seanzie did something like say that he could win alone or with scum, and then Kate went "oh yeah samesies Seanzies"

this might be worth asking Seanzie to speak further on, I don't think it would reveal much and it might help confirm how much to trust point #1

re: #2, after being in a game with Kate and SVS, can confirm they can accurate snipe each other, so if I believe #1 then I'm inclined to believe #2

idk about #3/dont wanna hear about #4 atm
I’m inclined to think him trusting Kate on SVS was genuine. I feel like if he were scum with SVS this post would make a bigger deal of either him trusting SVS or him not trusting SVS.
pyxxy wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:23 pm Why are there 9 on Kate?

Asking in a non-partnered way.
lmao nook posted exactly like this when we were wolfing together and lily got mech outed

putting nook in the sin bin
pyxxy wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:50 pm

"Asking in a non-partnered way."
bit is NAI imo for nook

"Why are there 9 on Kate?"
is what I really think is sus nook behavior

although now I'm rereading my ol' pal nook and actually I think not knowing anything is maybe townie, but showing up to know a thing is what was bad
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... d=665&ch=0

consider me taking nook out of the auto-sin bin :/ hm
When wolves waffle like this they tend to do it on townies. I don’t think Nook is John Doe from this since it feels like pyxxy was doing a real read on him. The first post also has the self-confidence to make me think it was real.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:06 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.
Outside of Porscha (and Seanzie, king of town), I ain't doing to bad.
Eh the jury is out on you. Someone messaged me telling me it'd be wise to vote for you lol.
I think one of the 3p can kill one of the people who dont do as they say? Epi last night didnt post a lot, and tutuu posted too much so she died instead of Epi. Today you are told to vote for seanzie, so someone will be told not to vote for seanzie or to vote for someone else (Assuming some logical progression in commands) which means that you both need to do as you are told or one of you that doesnt dies? or you both dont do as you are told and one of you dies?

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:06 pm
by Scotty
The question was posed: ‘what is a full phase?’

I classify phases as a day or night period (ie N2 or D3). A cycle is Day and night pair (ie Day 2 and Night 2)

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:06 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I don't negotiate with terrorists.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:10 pm
by MacDougall
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:01 pm Based
Tell me more.
Nanook is saying "based" because another sin died. What are you on about?
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:03 pm Anyone claiming any of the kills so far? Omega / Neon / Pyxxy?
There have been two posts before this one and neither did, blatantly, why are you trying to get townies to out their KP you sussy baka?
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
I remain unconvinced that it is. It's a role madness game. We have killed 2 utility players with mafia potential. The big bad remains at large, and we have very little idea who or what we are dealing with.
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:07 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm It says Pyxxy was Mafia aligned.
I think he converted to mafia.
Oh, really? That is an astute observation Thunal of the "really wants Mac to townread them" clan.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:10 pm Makes sense Humility was dead
So this is interesting, this is more or less implicit confirmation that your understanding of what converted sins into mafia is accurate. So... how the fuck did you know that?
S~V~S wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:11 pm So we only need to watch out for the opposite of Diligence and Kindness at the moment. so its technically 3vX+Y
What do you mean? Does it spell that out somewhere and I missed it?
We are taking SVS as lock town and never looking back k?
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
Is it? At the end of the day we need to find John Doe.
Swamsayin
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:19 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
Is it? At the end of the day we need to find John Doe.
Well it's day 3 and we've already killed 2 baddies with one more outed. It's a lot better than I expected from a game where baddies can genuinely solve.
You are one sussy sussy baka
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:01 pm Based
Tell me more.
Dead sins are good
Work with me here, Nook.
I mean that's what's based lol
Tell me about your worldview.
I'm gonna sheep mac probably
Turn, turn, turn
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually
I'm fine with you not sheeping me, but could you not sheep someone I am very sus of?
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually
Cool, I'm very sheepable. You should vote Dennis.
SUSSY but accurate
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:39 pm Here's some interesting mech info. From Kate's role:
-You will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.

So if pyxxy's conversion was similar, then he wouldn't have BTSC with John Doe d2. I'm not sure if "a full phase" means day and night cycle or just a day phase.

And I noticed last night that John Doe has a profile in the setup roles spoiler. Here's the only thing on conversion from it:
You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???

So John Doe would know pyxxy's alignment, but would pyxxy know John Doe's alignment? I'd guess so and I'll solve in a world where he does but it's possible he doesn't.
Towny helpfulness. Sorta. Still sussy.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:12 pm
by MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.
Outside of Porscha (and Seanzie, king of town), I ain't doing to bad.
Eh the jury is out on you. Someone messaged me telling me it'd be wise to vote for you lol.
I think one of the 3p can kill one of the people who dont do as they say? Epi last night didnt post a lot, and tutuu posted too much so she died instead of Epi. Today you are told to vote for seanzie, so someone will be told not to vote for seanzie or to vote for someone else (Assuming some logical progression in commands) which means that you both need to do as you are told or one of you that doesnt dies? or you both dont do as you are told and one of you dies?
You know what, I am going to be a force for good and be naive and just lock you and Thunal town for setup solving so hard. Let's make the game easy. I'm just a guy, you guys seem to be some sort of intelligent folks. Direct me oh force of solving nature Thunal and Rondo.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:12 pm
by Thunal33
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:59 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:48 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:39 pm Here's some interesting mech info. From Kate's role:
-You will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.

So if pyxxy's conversion was similar, then he wouldn't have BTSC with John Doe d2. I'm not sure if "a full phase" means day and night cycle or just a day phase.

And I noticed last night that John Doe has a profile in the setup roles spoiler. Here's the only thing on conversion from it:
You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???

So John Doe would know pyxxy's alignment, but would pyxxy know John Doe's alignment? I'd guess so and I'll solve in a world where he does but it's possible he doesn't.
Tell me about your current worldview.
Rn from what I've learned from how sins act I think baddies may play in a way that's different from their usual play, even if that difference doesn't translate to TMI. Falcon and Roxy are in my PoE since they both come across as different from their usual game. I had a tinfoil on SVS but I don't think that's true because from what you said Kate had a real townread on her.

I have a cool theory that might narrow down who John Doe could be. Assuming pyxxy does know the identity of John Doe, he made a post SOD2 saying he thought DOOM was killed for non-setup related reasons. I read into this post as genuine so I think John Doe is someone pyxxy could believe killed DOOM for non-setup reasons. Off the top of my head that means, say, Mac isn't John Doe since I couldn't imagine him killing anyone for non-setup reasons and pyxxy would know that. I'll look into who else fits that category.
I realized there's a lot of people who I'm not sure if they would kill someone for non-setup reasons, and I'm not sure pyxxy would know either. Personally I don't think Mac, Michelle, or Epi would but I'm not sure how much pyxxy knows the Syndicate crowd or who he would make the connection of "the NK was for non-setup reasons" for.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:14 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:10 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:01 pm Based
Tell me more.
Nanook is saying "based" because another sin died. What are you on about?
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:03 pm Anyone claiming any of the kills so far? Omega / Neon / Pyxxy?

There have been two posts before this one and neither did, blatantly, why are you trying to get townies to out their KP you sussy baka?

Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
I remain unconvinced that it is. It's a role madness game. We have killed 2 utility players with mafia potential. The big bad remains at large, and we have very little idea who or what we are dealing with.
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:07 pm
S~V~S wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm It says Pyxxy was Mafia aligned.
I think he converted to mafia.
Oh, really? That is an astute observation Thunal of the "really wants Mac to townread them" clan.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:10 pm Makes sense Humility was dead

So this is interesting, this is more or less implicit confirmation that your understanding of what converted sins into mafia is accurate. So... how the fuck did you know that?
S~V~S wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:11 pm So we only need to watch out for the opposite of Diligence and Kindness at the moment. so its technically 3vX+Y
What do you mean? Does it spell that out somewhere and I missed it?

We are taking SVS as lock town and never looking back k?

Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
Is it? At the end of the day we need to find John Doe.
Swamsayin
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:19 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:15 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:05 pm Nice! This is going really well!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
Is it? At the end of the day we need to find John Doe.
Well it's day 3 and we've already killed 2 baddies with one more outed. It's a lot better than I expected from a game where baddies can genuinely solve.
You are one sussy sussy baka
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:02 pm

Tell me more.
Dead sins are good
Work with me here, Nook.
I mean that's what's based lol
Tell me about your worldview.
I'm gonna sheep mac probably
Turn, turn, turn
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually
I'm fine with you not sheeping me, but could you not sheep someone I am very sus of?
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:23 pm Or thunal, probably gonna sheep thun actually
Cool, I'm very sheepable. You should vote Dennis.
SUSSY but accurate
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:39 pm Here's some interesting mech info. From Kate's role:
-You will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia.

So if pyxxy's conversion was similar, then he wouldn't have BTSC with John Doe d2. I'm not sure if "a full phase" means day and night cycle or just a day phase.

And I noticed last night that John Doe has a profile in the setup roles spoiler. Here's the only thing on conversion from it:
You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???

So John Doe would know pyxxy's alignment, but would pyxxy know John Doe's alignment? I'd guess so and I'll solve in a world where he does but it's possible he doesn't.
Towny helpfulness. Sorta. Still sussy.
A) Think about it
B) Logically thinking about how a host would lock a sin behind a wall before they could become mafia
C) How does that quote relate to what you are saying?

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:12 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.
Outside of Porscha (and Seanzie, king of town), I ain't doing to bad.
Eh the jury is out on you. Someone messaged me telling me it'd be wise to vote for you lol.
I think one of the 3p can kill one of the people who dont do as they say? Epi last night didnt post a lot, and tutuu posted too much so she died instead of Epi. Today you are told to vote for seanzie, so someone will be told not to vote for seanzie or to vote for someone else (Assuming some logical progression in commands) which means that you both need to do as you are told or one of you that doesnt dies? or you both dont do as you are told and one of you dies?
You know what, I am going to be a force for good and be naive and just lock you and Thunal town for setup solving so hard. Let's make the game easy. I'm just a guy, you guys seem to be some sort of intelligent folks. Direct me oh force of solving nature Thunal and Rondo.
Sure, I can even help you lock me more town if you want. Or I can keep being a sussy baka

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm
by MacDougall
We are in World 1

In world 1 everything is just easy and fun

In world 1 the following players are town

Rondo for setup solving
Thunal for wim and hard solving
Nanook for being super towny and probably never killing Zenon
Seanzie for teabagging 2 sins
Jack because he "self confirms" and wolves never claim to do that (do they? lol)

Who else is level 1 AN TOWNIE?

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm
by Seanzie
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.
Outside of Porscha (and Seanzie, king of town), I ain't doing to bad.
Eh the jury is out on you. Someone messaged me telling me it'd be wise to vote for you lol.
*Strips completely naked*

*steps out into the middle of virtualworld*

*spreads arms*

I'm open, come at me, bro.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:17 pm
by MacDougall
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:03 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.
Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.
Outside of Porscha (and Seanzie, king of town), I ain't doing to bad.
Eh the jury is out on you. Someone messaged me telling me it'd be wise to vote for you lol.
*Strips completely naked*

*steps out into the middle of virtualworld*

*spreads arms*

I'm open, come at me, bro.
This is clearly the behaviour of an unhinged pseudo demonic serial killer

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:18 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Someone messaged me to pocket Mac today.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:18 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
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Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:18 pm
by MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:18 pm Someone messaged me to pocket Mac today.
Haha I will hurt you
Spoiler: show
because I'm John Doe

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:20 pm
by Thunal33
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm We are in World 1

In world 1 everything is just easy and fun

In world 1 the following players are town

Rondo for setup solving
Thunal for wim and hard solving
Nanook for being super towny and probably never killing Zenon
Seanzie for teabagging 2 sins
Jack because he "self confirms" and wolves never claim to do that (do they? lol)

Who else is level 1 AN TOWNIE?
ehh I still am not convinced we're in level 1 world and I wouldn't clear Rondo. I've played enough mafia.gg games with lost wolves to know not everything that looks like a signal is one, but I think it raises the odds of him being mafia and I'm a little paranoid at how agreeable and conventionally towny he is compared to Solar System.

I'd add you and Michelle to the list.

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:21 pm
by MacDougall
Thunal33 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm We are in World 1

In world 1 everything is just easy and fun

In world 1 the following players are town

Rondo for setup solving
Thunal for wim and hard solving
Nanook for being super towny and probably never killing Zenon
Seanzie for teabagging 2 sins
Jack because he "self confirms" and wolves never claim to do that (do they? lol)

Who else is level 1 AN TOWNIE?
ehh I still am not convinced we're in level 1 world and I wouldn't clear Rondo. I've played enough mafia.gg games with lost wolves to know not everything that looks like a signal is one, but I think it raises the odds of him being mafia and I'm a little paranoid at how agreeable and conventionally towny he is compared to Solar System.

I'd add you and Michelle to the list.
Your solution is based on the idea Pyxxy knows who Joh Doe is, talk me through how you came to that?

Re: Se7en Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:22 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:18 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:18 pm Someone messaged me to pocket Mac today.
Haha I will hurt you
Spoiler: show
because I'm John Doe
thats ok, you gotta do what you gotta do.

But while we are talking did you read my big post yesterday? I @ed you and you didnt reply

Also ftr seanzie is my president