The Syndicate

Dizzy having good takes

Marmot did improve but early stuff was wehhh

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:52 pm Dizzy having good takes

That you and Marmot are mafia.

Glad we agree.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:52 pm Dizzy having good takes

That you and Marmot are mafia.

Glad we agree.

How's that? Their interaction with me was a disaster and I was the one pointing out that it was. What makes you think that was partnered?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:51 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:36 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:27 pm I'm liking Syn's off the cuff play.

there is no way this is true

I noticed this conversation last night, but wanted to see where it went, since i was kinda townreading Syn in general as well, and kinda wanted to know why he thought that was unreasonable

Having read the whole thing again, I think Syn is sincere in the whole exchange, I think he really believes what he's saying. Thunal, maybe not. She feels like she's scrambling a bit. Could be becasue the basis of the suspicion is unexpected (I know I'm always taken aback a bit when someone questions my townread of them, looking at you Sean), but it feels more like she's over explaining a bit. More than a bit in some places.

Syns sus of Thunal and Scotty started here (spoilered for largeness):

Spoiler: show

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:48 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:48 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:46 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:43 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:36 pm I hardclaim masons with @Dyslexicon and @Thunal33.

I don't, they're the wolves lol

Hi Nutella!

I wish.

do you like being wolf? I thought it stressled you out

I'm glad I'm town and I usually prefer it but I've always wanted to wolf with Dizzy.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:49 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:48 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:46 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:43 pm

I don't, they're the wolves lol

Hi Nutella!

I wish.

do you like being wolf? I thought it stressled you out

I'm glad I'm town and I usually prefer it but I've always wanted to wolf with Dizzy.

*checks notes*

Yeah, best to just yeet dizzy early just to be sure. I don’t want to go to f10 with dizzy

both these posts are from wolves tbh

I could understand how that looks a bit teamy rather than natural banter-y, but since Scottys last readslist has Thunal at the bottom of it less than 24 hours into day 1 (he would have to be the worst baddie teammate ever to bus her so hard this early), and over all I'm t/r Scotty, I don't think I agree re him, but ++ town for Syn out of this whole issue.

this early, that kind of read is easily inconsequential since most people won't even remember that and it's super simple to just go "oh thunal is posting better, +villa now"

also worth stating that scotty did this (+ the "my vote is spiritually on thunal rn" post) after I started paying special attention to thunal, so it could be opportunistic piling on

either way I'm just vibing. I'm not putting a lot of rigid analysis into it (yet! okay never. but i had you going there for a second didn't I)

Marmot, Nutella, Lime
Bottoms

And that's not even talking about Epig and Falcon and Rico who are nulling

I'm unsure on Thunal

The rest is fine or good

Dizzy why am I top town read when you're giving others a hard time for townreading marmot and I am also doing that

also townreading him, not giving others a hard time

only easy times here

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:52 pm Dizzy having good takes

That you and Marmot are mafia.

Glad we agree.

How's that? Their interaction with me was a disaster and I was the one pointing out that it was. What makes you think that was partnered?

Eh.

You could be. It was kind of soft ball finger slaps to each other.

You're also not being very towny.

But I wouldn't worry about it if I were town!you but feel free to do it anyway.

I don't think nutella's mafia, and we are certainly not mafia together.

I would not attempt to have an interaction like that with my partner early in Day 1 if I'm a wolf. I generally ignore my partners Day 1, or make a comment and don't follow up.

Also the nutella that I'm familiar with is kinda freeflowing with her posts and takes, and I wasn't seeing that early on. I get that it's a postcapped game, but that's why I wanted to pry for more.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:56 pm Dizzy why am I top town read when you're giving others a hard time for townreading marmot and I am also doing that

Because I can tell that you are town.

You should probably stop town reading Marmot or convince me of it though. But I kind of don't want to hear about it.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:57 pm I would not attempt to have an interaction like that with my partner early in Day 1 if I'm a wolf. I generally ignore my partners Day 1, or make a comment and don't follow up.

you realize everyone on this player list has played with you before, right

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:58 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:56 pm Dizzy why am I top town read when you're giving others a hard time for townreading marmot and I am also doing that

Because I can tell that you are town.

You should probably stop town reading Marmot or convince me of it though. But I kind of don't want to hear about it.

are you willing to go to couples therapy with me?

Marmot.

You are wolf.

I think nutella's town for now because she didn't really give in and try to force an explanation at the end of our interactions, she responded with "Vibes vibes vibes!!!"

(also friendly reminder for those who don't know or forget, I would prefer they/them pronouns pls and thank you)

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:59 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:58 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:56 pm Dizzy why am I top town read when you're giving others a hard time for townreading marmot and I am also doing that

Because I can tell that you are town.

You should probably stop town reading Marmot or convince me of it though. But I kind of don't want to hear about it.

are you willing to go to couples therapy with me?

Ok. But I will sleep with my back turned all night.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:49 pm Marmot town.
Bad if Marmot town.

....

Correctly townreading a town member is bad?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:59 pm (also friendly reminder for those who don't know or forget, I would prefer they/them pronouns pls and thank you)

I am usually not this terrible. I'm sorry.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:00 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:49 pm Marmot town.
Bad if Marmot town.

....

Correctly townreading a town member is bad?

When they are as wolfy as Marmot. Yes.

Like I have respect for your game but if you make statements like that then that kinda tanks it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:01 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:00 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:49 pm Marmot town.
Bad if Marmot town.

....

Correctly townreading a town member is bad?

When they are as wolfy as Marmot. Yes.

Unless you're Syn of course.

Actually, it isn't that bad. But all your reads are weird to me.

Thunal has the worst Marmot read offence if Marmot is town.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:59 pm Marmot.

You are wolf.

No I'm not.

I'm surprised you still believe that to be the case. I get that my early posts weren't exactly townie. I'm a bit rusty, and I was also trying to force content to get this game going and develop reads.

But I'm running out of posts, so I'm not going to deliberate over this unless you want me to address a particular point.

my two greatest loves are mortal enemies

it's like i'm caroline from vampire diaries

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:30 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:23 pm I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:16 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:30 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:23 pm I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:19 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:17 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:16 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:30 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:23 pm I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

I'm asking you why Rico and I aren't in that camp. Sure my name is involved, but I'm interested in how you differentiate the two.

Because.....you....weren't....towny?
This seems circular

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:29 am I don't think continuing this pedantic exchange will allow me to secure a read on you. Talk about something else.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:52 pm Marmot did improve but early stuff was wehhh

Like if you think this is how I interact with a wolf partner in the first 12 hours, uh... I think I probably don't lol. In any case you quoted several marmot posts and called them wolf without directly bringing me up again so yeah dunno where that's coming from.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:03 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:59 pm Marmot.

You are wolf.

No I'm not.

I'm surprised you still believe that to be the case. I get that my early posts weren't exactly townie. I'm a bit rusty, and I was also trying to force content to get this game going and develop reads.

But I'm running out of posts, so I'm not going to deliberate over this unless you want me to address a particular point.

But what if I want you to be wolf, did you ever consider that?

Did you ever think about MY feelings?

are we really doing "I would never do this as a wolf" defenses on d1

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:01 pm Like I have respect for your game but if you make statements like that then that kinda tanks it.

Bruh tf is this stinky stink. You know damn well what a tmi accusation is.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:04 pm are we really doing "I would never do this as a wolf" defenses on d1

I certainly would never do a never do defence as a wolf D1

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:04 pm are we really doing "I would never do this as a wolf" defenses on d1

I would never do that as a wolf.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:04 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:03 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:59 pm Marmot.

You are wolf.

No I'm not.

I'm surprised you still believe that to be the case. I get that my early posts weren't exactly townie. I'm a bit rusty, and I was also trying to force content to get this game going and develop reads.

But I'm running out of posts, so I'm not going to deliberate over this unless you want me to address a particular point.

But what if I want you to be wolf, did you ever consider that?

Did you ever think about MY feelings?

I'm sorry Dizzy. I'll rebargain with the rand gods to make you both a happy and correct player in this game.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:04 pm are we really doing "I would never do this as a wolf" defenses on d1

I tried but I have a hard time imagining what i would actually do as a wolf tbh.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:05 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:01 pm Like I have respect for your game but if you make statements like that then that kinda tanks it.

Bruh tf is this stinky stink. You know damn well what a tmi accusation is.

They should know my great my skill is in my reads. They've seen it before.

To be honest, I just want to feel the vibes, guess a bit, and don't doubt myself too much and don't get carried away by this game.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:08 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:05 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:01 pm Like I have respect for your game but if you make statements like that then that kinda tanks it.

Bruh tf is this stinky stink. You know damn well what a tmi accusation is.

They should know my great my skill is in my reads. They've seen it before.

TBH it was probably a harsh response to that but yeah.

Scotty
Syn

Seanzie
Marmot
Thunal

Dyslexicon
S~V~S

Epignosis
Falcon
Ricochet
Lime Coke


Off the cuff tiers. Still plenty of shifting

Dizzy - Reasons

Syn - Appears to be loose and is giving off reads in a way that I feel is towny.

Thunal - Liked how she's gotten reads, posts liked #91 because of the description of the read given to Syn that I wasn't able to put into words myself.

Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

Scotty - Kind of already explained it.

Marmot - Responses to suspicion all around him feel fine.

@Dyslexicon

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

...Where are you seeing this??

My first ever-so-slight pressure was on Marmot whom I now lean town. I haven't really had scumreads aside from defaulting to the 0-1 posters and shrugging a bit on Epi/Thunal for a couple pages (Thunal has moved up a little but subject to return). I just now put you on the bottom of my list and I don't think I had indicated that inclination much prior to responding to your post above.

My reads have not been following a particularly snowbally pattern at all. They've been in flux. Explain this read.

Alright.

I guess I'm waiting for null brigade and hold off on making up my mind.

Good talk.

I'm stamping Brad with "whack"

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm
Syn - Appears to be loose and is giving off reads in a way that I feel is towny.

only for dizzy

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:15 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

...Where are you seeing this??

My first ever-so-slight pressure was on Marmot whom I now lean town. I haven't really had scumreads aside from defaulting to the 0-1 posters and shrugging a bit on Epi/Thunal for a couple pages (Thunal has moved up a little but subject to return). I just now put you on the bottom of my list and I don't think I had indicated that inclination much prior to responding to your post above.

My reads have not been following a particularly snowbally pattern at all. They've been in flux. Explain this read.

Actually, when did you lean town on Marmot? When did it start? Cause a moment ago, you agreed with me calling him wolfy.

unironically townreading Seanzie more now because he's the only one not opening their pocket for me to hop into like a baby kangaroo

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:15 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

...Where are you seeing this??

My first ever-so-slight pressure was on Marmot whom I now lean town. I haven't really had scumreads aside from defaulting to the 0-1 posters and shrugging a bit on Epi/Thunal for a couple pages (Thunal has moved up a little but subject to return). I just now put you on the bottom of my list and I don't think I had indicated that inclination much prior to responding to your post above.

My reads have not been following a particularly snowbally pattern at all. They've been in flux. Explain this read.

Actually, when did you lean town on Marmot? When did it start? Cause a moment ago, you agreed with me calling him wolfy.

I agreed with your assessment of their posts from 12+ hours ago. After I slept, they had more posts that I read in the morning that looked townier.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:08 pm To be honest, I just want to feel the vibes, guess a bit, and don't doubt myself too much and don't get carried away by this game.

I want you to know that the klaxons in my head are blaring after reading this

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:19 pm Syn svs thunal sean town ig

Marmot and rico are subject to further curiosity

Scotty is a worldhopper from a different game

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:30 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:23 pm I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:16 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:30 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:23 pm I think it's rand townie that nutella has so many townleans right off the bat, but why are Rico and I not in that camp?

Why should you be?

You tell me, you're the one who made the read.

You're the one who wanted to be townread.

@nutella

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:08 pm To be honest, I just want to feel the vibes, guess a bit, and don't doubt myself too much and don't get carried away by this game.

I want you to know that the klaxons in my head are blaring after reading this

this is shades of GoC Dizzy

Pretty soon it's gonna be me, which is unfortunate because you don't get out of tunnels, but yeah it probably means you're town.

I think it's just Scotty/Lime-Coke

Their interactions and reads on each other are weird in isolation, and the fact that they're also directed at each other rubs me the wrong way.


Epi - I get the case that v!Epi is probably much more self-conscious and apologetic than w!Epi and that's why he's more likely town from his content thus far.
Dizzy - Far too messy with his reads and cute to be a wolf. But seriously, w!Dizzy I would expect to be more calculated than this (or just lean more heavily into pocketing).
Syn - He's not stilted so he's probably town. I haven't seen w!Syn in years, but I don't really feel like this is it regardless.
Seanzie - I like his needling thus far. I hope he moves on from only needling me and applies pressure elsewhere, but I at least liked that focus.
Thunal - One minor gripe that doesn't stand up to me anymore. Her approach looks good, which I think is fine for Day 1 at least.
SVS - Town. Pushing multiple players with long explanations is very much in her town meta.
nutella - Talked about her already, but her explanation to me was satisfactory and her prods thus far have been fine.

falcon/Rico - null for now

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In general I think Scotty is fine, it's just that his progression on Lime Coke is quite lacking compared to his other content. He went from accusing LC of having a bad take to a top townread with very little deliberation in between.

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:08 pm To be honest, I just want to feel the vibes, guess a bit, and don't doubt myself too much and don't get carried away by this game.

I want you to know that the klaxons in my head are blaring after reading this

I do not know what this means.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:19 pm I think it's just Scotty/Lime-Coke

Their interactions and reads on each other are weird in isolation, and the fact that they're also directed at each other rubs me the wrong way.

You...actually think we do this "Maybe you're mafia, maybe you're town, maybe you're not" dance as scum?