Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I still have no idea what u are talking about herebeancat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:04 pmNot sure who TM is, but I'll assume you're talking about Onion.Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:01 pmWhy can't TM still be town here, is being wrong illegal?
Onion claimed to be spy, and then claimed that DkKoba was in the faction. Zone used the argument that they wanted to kill both, and that they wanted to get rid of the useless one first.
Why does Onion have a chance to be town and Zone doesn't?
DUDE listenSeonRichard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:54 pmIf I were to use Occam's Razor, then Town is probably the uninformed majority which is to be expected.
-CRichard
I was wondering why you were going on about Mafia being majority. This tracks.
If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?
Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:58 pmDUDE listenSeonRichard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:54 pmIf I were to use Occam's Razor, then Town is probably the uninformed majority which is to be expected.
-CRichard
if u are going to say another sentence without reading, full stop, and don't
"I can assume that town is informed evil minority"
so no, if colors mean nothing and alignment flips are all true, I can at least assume they were all evil flips
I understand your convictionOwls flipped mafia according to this post @Kurosaki Ichigo .osieorb18 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:46 pmDay 4 Start@FoolsGold, @Millium, and @OwlsWriteLetters would have died during the Night. BUT THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED. They were Werewolf Ravenous Beast, Rebel False Claim Desperado, and Mafia Mooncaller.
The moon looms closer...
Nero's violin playing was actually so good that the city of Rome burnt to never hear another violin, which would just sound worse.
In addition, @Zone_Q11 has been exiled and @based has returned.
Day 4 Starts now.
Sorry for the delay; human error.
Day 4 will last until 2 PM PST on April 10th.
@TheLukundo @Tsumugi @Zone_Q11 @Tilgarial @Millium @OwlsWriteLetters @TwoPlayersAndAOnion @beancat @FateShirou @SkillIssue @ATNoLeafia @TimHortons @DunkinDonuts @based @Boquise @FoolsGold @KurosakiIchogo @SeonRichard @TownMisleaders @TreeReaper @Whysper
I was talking about the deadSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:24 amOwls flipped mafia according to this post @Kurosaki Ichigo .osieorb18 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:46 pmDay 4 Start@FoolsGold, @Millium, and @OwlsWriteLetters would have died during the Night. BUT THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED. They were Werewolf Ravenous Beast, Rebel False Claim Desperado, and Mafia Mooncaller.
The moon looms closer...
Nero's violin playing was actually so good that the city of Rome burnt to never hear another violin, which would just sound worse.
In addition, @Zone_Q11 has been exiled and @based has returned.
Day 4 Starts now.
Sorry for the delay; human error.
Day 4 will last until 2 PM PST on April 10th.
@TheLukundo @Tsumugi @Zone_Q11 @Tilgarial @Millium @OwlsWriteLetters @TwoPlayersAndAOnion @beancat @FateShirou @SkillIssue @ATNoLeafia @TimHortons @DunkinDonuts @based @Boquise @FoolsGold @KurosakiIchogo @SeonRichard @TownMisleaders @TreeReaper @Whysper
-CRichard
Oh sorry. If you're talking about the dead, then none of them have flipped mafia.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:29 amI was talking about the deadSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:24 amOwls flipped mafia according to this post @Kurosaki Ichigo .osieorb18 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:46 pmDay 4 Start@FoolsGold, @Millium, and @OwlsWriteLetters would have died during the Night. BUT THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED. They were Werewolf Ravenous Beast, Rebel False Claim Desperado, and Mafia Mooncaller.
The moon looms closer...
Nero's violin playing was actually so good that the city of Rome burnt to never hear another violin, which would just sound worse.
In addition, @Zone_Q11 has been exiled and @based has returned.
Day 4 Starts now.
Sorry for the delay; human error.
Day 4 will last until 2 PM PST on April 10th.
@TheLukundo @Tsumugi @Zone_Q11 @Tilgarial @Millium @OwlsWriteLetters @TwoPlayersAndAOnion @beancat @FateShirou @SkillIssue @ATNoLeafia @TimHortons @DunkinDonuts @based @Boquise @FoolsGold @KurosakiIchogo @SeonRichard @TownMisleaders @TreeReaper @Whysper
-CRichard
Shouldn't we kill Foolsgold because they're ww?
It's worse, they're all townspeople. The important thing is whether they are truly an informed minority or notSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:30 amOh sorry. If you're talking about the dead, then none of them have flipped mafia.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:29 amI was talking about the deadSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:24 amOwls flipped mafia according to this post @Kurosaki Ichigo .osieorb18 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:46 pmDay 4 Start@FoolsGold, @Millium, and @OwlsWriteLetters would have died during the Night. BUT THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED. They were Werewolf Ravenous Beast, Rebel False Claim Desperado, and Mafia Mooncaller.
The moon looms closer...
Nero's violin playing was actually so good that the city of Rome burnt to never hear another violin, which would just sound worse.
In addition, @Zone_Q11 has been exiled and @based has returned.
Day 4 Starts now.
Sorry for the delay; human error.
Day 4 will last until 2 PM PST on April 10th.
@TheLukundo @Tsumugi @Zone_Q11 @Tilgarial @Millium @OwlsWriteLetters @TwoPlayersAndAOnion @beancat @FateShirou @SkillIssue @ATNoLeafia @TimHortons @DunkinDonuts @based @Boquise @FoolsGold @KurosakiIchogo @SeonRichard @TownMisleaders @TreeReaper @Whysper
-CRichard
Shouldn't we kill Foolsgold because they're ww?
-CRichard
If town is the informed minority in this setup, then assuming that the hosts made them 1/4 of the player list. If there are more than 6 players who have flipped town, then that proves town isn't the informed minority.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:33 amIt's worse, they're all townspeople. The important thing is whether they are truly an informed minority or notSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:30 amOh sorry. If you're talking about the dead, then none of them have flipped mafia.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:29 amI was talking about the deadSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:24 amOwls flipped mafia according to this post @Kurosaki Ichigo .osieorb18 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:46 pmDay 4 Start@FoolsGold, @Millium, and @OwlsWriteLetters would have died during the Night. BUT THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED. They were Werewolf Ravenous Beast, Rebel False Claim Desperado, and Mafia Mooncaller.
The moon looms closer...
Nero's violin playing was actually so good that the city of Rome burnt to never hear another violin, which would just sound worse.
In addition, @Zone_Q11 has been exiled and @based has returned.
Day 4 Starts now.
Sorry for the delay; human error.
Day 4 will last until 2 PM PST on April 10th.
@TheLukundo @Tsumugi @Zone_Q11 @Tilgarial @Millium @OwlsWriteLetters @TwoPlayersAndAOnion @beancat @FateShirou @SkillIssue @ATNoLeafia @TimHortons @DunkinDonuts @based @Boquise @FoolsGold @KurosakiIchogo @SeonRichard @TownMisleaders @TreeReaper @Whysper
-CRichard
Shouldn't we kill Foolsgold because they're ww?
-CRichard
"You" meaning one of four people who all missed the last vote deadline and got yeeted for it. Yeaaaaaaaah about that.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:35 amYou're very quiet in the game, I find it suspicious
we can only wait until thenSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:36 amIf town is the informed minority in this setup, then assuming that the hosts made them 1/4 of the player list. If there are more than 6 players who have flipped town, then that proves town isn't the informed minority.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:33 amIt's worse, they're all townspeople. The important thing is whether they are truly an informed minority or notSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:30 amOh sorry. If you're talking about the dead, then none of them have flipped mafia.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:29 amI was talking about the deadSeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:24 amOwls flipped mafia according to this post @Kurosaki Ichigo .osieorb18 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:46 pmDay 4 Start@FoolsGold, @Millium, and @OwlsWriteLetters would have died during the Night. BUT THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED. They were Werewolf Ravenous Beast, Rebel False Claim Desperado, and Mafia Mooncaller.
The moon looms closer...
Nero's violin playing was actually so good that the city of Rome burnt to never hear another violin, which would just sound worse.
In addition, @Zone_Q11 has been exiled and @based has returned.
Day 4 Starts now.
Sorry for the delay; human error.
Day 4 will last until 2 PM PST on April 10th.
@TheLukundo @Tsumugi @Zone_Q11 @Tilgarial @Millium @OwlsWriteLetters @TwoPlayersAndAOnion @beancat @FateShirou @SkillIssue @ATNoLeafia @TimHortons @DunkinDonuts @based @Boquise @FoolsGold @KurosakiIchogo @SeonRichard @TownMisleaders @TreeReaper @Whysper
-CRichard
Shouldn't we kill Foolsgold because they're ww?
-CRichard
-CRichard
^^^SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:37 am Ngl, it's not every game where town being uninformed majority isn't automatically true.
-CRichard
I'm so sorry I don't have this information, let's talk more about this gameFoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:39 am"You" meaning one of four people who all missed the last vote deadline and got yeeted for it. Yeaaaaaaaah about that.Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:35 amYou're very quiet in the game, I find it suspicious
Any information is useful. Talking more in a chat than here, where everyone can see and judge, is not good for the game.FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:42 am^^^SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:37 am Ngl, it's not every game where town being uninformed majority isn't automatically true.
-CRichard
Anyway @Kurosaki Ichigo, heck if I know how to "convince" you. Most of both my and my hydramates contributions have been in the ??? chat, and we're just as confused as anyone else in there as a result. If you have specific questions I or other mates can try to answer them, but just spewing random info doesn't seem useful here atm.
let's find out then **/vote Tim Horton's**Whysper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:31 pmDid he say what the point of this was? I just worried that people are only going to notice the fake red check and not even follow up in reading that it was fake.Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:28 pmTim Horton's told the chat he was in, that he was going to do itSeonRichard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:27 pmMillium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:23 pmITS FAKESeonRichard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:22 pm I'm inclined to believe the cop check on Whysper is legit, because I made no secret that I don't town read Whysper.
That being said, in a bastard game like this there are mechanics that could mess with a cop such as framer.
One problem I have with revealing the cop check this early, is that if it's real then Whysper can limit spew.
-CRichard
Oh it's fake? I was expecting you to tell me that the check was FPS on their part.
-CRichard
why did you never claim your original role was mafiaOwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.
Okay, cool. Good to know.Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:48 pmCorrect, this was an error on osie part you did show up on my watch.Whysper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:50 pmYes, I do the Shaman blood thing. And yes, I did target TownMisleaders last night. It doesn't say anything on the ability about it not counting as a visit. But my ability may take precedence over a watch, which might then make it so the watch doesn't work since it makes targeting harder.
I stand corrected.Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:46 am @SeonRichard you said somewhere I didn't kidnap zone due to kidnapöing and exile being different mechanics; my abiity was always exile, people simomy talked about it as kidnapping due to more familiarity with the term (or something? Maybe?)
Has anybody considered that maybe the end flips aren't the "core" role, but mafia/town depending on wether they were informed minority/uninformed majority, like it would be in a regular game, disregarding their actual faction?
As far as I'm aware, all "final" flips were town, which doesn't add up with all the factions we know of, ngl
(Yes, side note, millium has info that people with the known mafia role are uninformed majority. Mafia in this post was used independent of said faction, as a counterpoint to town. Those with a mafia role would flip town in a world where this post is true and milliums info is true too.)
Other corrections to make:
I exiled/kidnapped beancat N1, based N2, and now zone N3. 3 uses.
...I forgot the others, but there were more that weren't related to me. Regardless, there's a lot of misinformation going on and I don't have the posts to correct them all. (Also, I'm lazy and my memory is bad. I don't want to and shouldn't be the one keeping things straight.)
But it was enough for me realize that ya'll aren't going to be doing... well, anything really, if ya'll don't get your info straight.
....good luck with that, I guess
I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lolOwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.
Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to meKurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 amIf mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?
Explain how this is a gotchaOwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 amI swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lolOwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.
Luckily this post was made:
Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to meKurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 amIf mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?
[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine
osieorb18 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:07 pm
#2. DkKoba @MathBlade - Rebel Archaeologist -> Town Maria Sekiutsu -> Town Telephone, Eliminated Day 3.
#14. @Cream + @Joker + @Lissi + @Psyx (@SpectatoChat) - Neutral Copsonistado -> Town Token, Died Night 2.
#16. @Kiiruma (non-invite) - Town Kirby -> Town Editor, Died Night 2.
One thing i did notice is that colors only started to occur during the 2nd and third role; which fits kinda into the whole initial wincon and core wincon thingy
I feel like white seems to be important tho we could just be grasping at straws and it could just be another meme rule
-seon