The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:41 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:37 pm Who has shots and why also

I have a shot, strongly thinking about shooting you. Any legacy you want to give before I do?

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:41 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 pm Wait did MR claim 3P

I dont think he did? he just seems flat to me

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:20 am ok he's clearly not 3p let's move on smh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:32 am waiting for something exciting to happen or else I'll have to read back later and I don't want to

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:41 am What time is EoD? 6pm EST - So I give my red check at 3:59pm... I think?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:30 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:46 am

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:30 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

I left it there

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:45 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:41 am What time is EoD? 6pm EST - So I give my red check at 3:59pm... I think?

Hmmm. Which timezone?
Neeko knows your loophole tricks.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:46 am

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:30 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Where's that spark I saw in RYM 96

I left it there

What made this the first post you responded to upon coming back

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:13 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm Here is my case on Creature.

All of Creature's posts so far can be divided into one of three categories: useless fluff, attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons, and "flame fanning".

Category 1: Useless Fluff

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:22 pm Why does the game always start when I'm the most low energy?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:32 pm Wow this got intense so quick

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm Is this game by any chance bastard? I didn't check before joining

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:11 pmWho is Neeko?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:12 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:11 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:49 pm Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

I think you are.

I'm not mafia and this makes your push on me even more annoying

These posts go beyond the usual RVS horsing around (although we are well out of RVS now). These are posts that show a clear lack of interest in the progression of the game. His questions are flat, shallow, and in many cases could have been easily answered by glancing at the OP. He is more interested in looking like he is around and engaging with the game than actually being around and engaging with the game. He had a ripe opportunity to engage with me about my push on him, and he responded by going "I'm not mafia, I'm annoyed now, go away". I don't get the sense that he cares whether or not I am town misreading him or scum trying to get him killed, and this is especially concerning because in my last scum game I tried to get him killed early on.

I believe him when he says he is low energy. Take note that being low energy and unable to meaningfully engage with the game is a classic Creature scumtell.

Category 2: Attempting to derpclear himself for silly reasons

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:51 pm I want the guilty on nutella to be legit

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:34 pm Is soup kill a thing?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:49 pm Would much rather just be mafia in bastard games

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:06 pm Wait I think the existence of a mafia captain should almost clear me from ever being picked as mafia this game

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:07 pm Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:15 pm If I was mafia captain I would choose players tbh even if it is not mechanically optimal. I would much rather have an enjoyable team to play with.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:15 pm I know I'd never be picked by the mafia captain if they chose players over roles

Creature makes an excessive number of posts attempting to insinuate that he is town, or in some way get people to "angleshoot" him as being town due to his lack of knowledge about the game mechanics or the inner workings of the mafia ("is there a soup kill?"). But a town Creature who genuinely wanted to know would just check the OP; asking in thread serves no purpose except to try to get people to falsely read him as town. He is aware that he struggles to gain the trust of the town when he is mafia, and he is cheaply attempting to earn this towncred through derptells and "townslips".

Take note that he is trying to convince the game repeatedly that the mafia captain chose players rather than roles. If he is town, he has no reason to believe that the mafia captain chose players over roles. I, personally, have reason to believe that the mafia captain chose roles. I think nutella is much townier than her scum self would be, and as I have argued, a town nutella implies a town Alexa. I know I am town, and I do not think a mafia captain who picked players would pass over both me and Alexa. So this attempt to convince the town - with no evidence whatsoever - that the mafia captain picked players reeks of agenda-pushing to me.

Finally, I want to highlight this line: "Unless you want to argue that I'm 3p here? But would be better to seek for the seven mafia first." Nobody has accused him of being 3P. It comes completely out of the blue, and reads almost as though he is self-aware of his own scumminess and is trying to hang a lampshade of it. I don't think it's a line that would flow naturally from a townie's mouth.

Category 3: Flame Fanning

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Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm lol if nutella is salty alexa caught her n0

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:07 pm lol if the alexa/nutella w/w theory is right

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:18 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Thought I was the only one seeing it

LinearPoint has been accused of fanning the flames. I think Creature is even more guilty of this sin. In his ISO of 19 posts (at the time I wrote this case), Creature utters provocative lines, egging on the suspicions of townies towards each other, three separate times. They are quoted in the spoilers above. Note that he first eggs on the "Alexa has a red check on nutella" narrative, then switches to "Alexa and nutella are wolves together". These narratives are contradictory. Creature does not have an opinion of his own; he just encourages whatever happens to be the prevailing opinion or thread sentiment at the time. This is strongly opportunistic, and this opportunism is exemplified even further by his agreement with 112 that Seanzie is wolfing. How is Seanzie being wolfy? Why has he not brought up this scumread on Seanzie before, if he thought he was the only one seeing it? In fact, if he thinks Seanzie is a wolf and fooling everyone except him, why would he keep quiet about it until someone else brings it up, at which point he eagerly jumps on the bandwagon? Answer: because he is nakedly taking advantage of 112's suspicion to push Seanzie.

At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

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Please vote Creature.

jfc Alison you came to play. I take it you aren't the Gambit Demon this go around?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:54 am Flipping creature to determine if nutella has good reads or not this game

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:54 am I’m just gonna read creature’s iso and decide for mysef

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:55 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:54 am I’m just gonna read creature’s iso and decide for mysef

You read?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:49 am I will say this once: I an semi-retired and in no position to play with the sort of energy people are used to from me.

On top of that, I had no power for 12 hours today and could not connect to the internet or do anything that involved electricity. This game was not even on my mind while this was happening. Prodding me is useless. I can give feedback if you have direct questions for me. But mostly I will just be hanging around and commenting on what I see/shitposting.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:59 am Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:02 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:59 am Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

LOYAL GODFATHER DAYVIG

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:03 am Creature has more posts than I thought maybe I am full of shit actually

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:03 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:02 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:59 am Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

LOYAL GODFATHER DAYVIG

Yeah exactly

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:05 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:03 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:02 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:59 am Also this is a secret read we can use later but I do think dya could have loyal hellbus vigged marmot for cred because he was always going down early anyway, they have been wolfy or null at best otherwise and tried to tell me creature got towny when he didn't

LOYAL GODFATHER DAYVIG

Yeah exactly

That was 2020 though and more realistically dya who literally cannot play this game long enough to go deep can’t be claiming those shots, right?