The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Gavial]

Like I’m still doing more then some others Ngl.
Only reason I’d be “never allowed to end game” is if current suspensions of me stay in place.

Of which I’d agree and yeah at that point it’s probably better to get rid of me then not or I’m just that easy ML for scum to the win.

Just please let us lower down scum’s numbers before that happens because I don’t wanna lose to the full 5 stack.

[KZA]

Too many slots I'm ready to policy kill just because its game throwing to have them at end game

Step the fuck up if you're town

It’s not game throwing to have me around if I can become lock town or at least high town.

Cant wait to see it

[Gavial]

Suspicions*

[Gavial]

Too many slots I'm ready to policy kill just because its game throwing to have them at end game

Step the fuck up if you're town

It’s not game throwing to have me around if I can become lock town or at least high town.

Cant wait to see it

Go me go!

[Gavial]

Ima try and get that lock town tonight boy!

[KZA]

Look Gavial you're frustrating as fuck if you're town because all you've been doing is spouting random reads with no cases and talking about how we're getting swept and bringing up an SK every post

Put a stake in the ground, tell us your actual reads, who your trust and suspect and WHY

[Gavial]

Mac, BK, Qwags all wolves. Book it

Nope.
Mac, Falcon, Flanders all wolves. Book that!

At least we have an overlap of Mac

Like a wonderful, hairy Venn diagram

We will see who was the closest post game.
Y’know it gonna be me because BK Obv town.

You keep saying BK is town, but just because you name your child Millionaire doesn’t make them rich.

Why is he obvious town?

Because I’ve seen BK wolf and he ain’t wolfing this game.

[Gavial]

Look Gavial you're frustrating as fuck if you're town because all you've been doing is spouting random reads with no cases and talking about how we're getting swept and bringing up an SK every post

Put a stake in the ground, tell us your actual reads, who your trust and suspect and WHY

Tell you what.
I’ll try and do more in the morning alright?

[KZA]

There is lots of time. This is just a game where I feel the town lacks coordination and want to slap that ship in the face to right it

[KZA]

I'm drunk and eating a night kill soon enough okay I'm sorry for the out of character aggression

[DaisyCloud]

bit off topic but a bit not.. umm guys.. i am freaked out as all get out. I was going through Flanders iso u know all set to make the case and then I heard a chicken clucking. it scared me to death. I freaking chicken in my room. it is 2:30am as I type this. I can't make this stuff up.

okay. so idk if that means he isn't scum or that means he is.

well I'm not voting Flanders so there u go. I promise you this is real and not some made up thing for the game and theatrics.

scotty. okay so new plan is going to look at my scum leans. Gavial, made and and

then think about monkey, nacho and Enrique, qwags and quin. . those 3 are slankers and last 2 kinda post but don't. doing nothing. a town could be in there. not emoght to lynch them.

I do not like qwags and gavial the most.

I only saw 1 game with Gavial. we both were town. he is playing so different here. he seemed more contributing in last game.

is he going on about sk because he is sk? my tin foily potatoe sheep 1 brain cell left of a brain thinks so but my right toe says I'm wrong.

and Marmot seems more contributing this game. he has alot of fluff but he seems to be doing stuff.

I can take a stand.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[KZA]

Daisy did you leave Minecraft running

Could explain chicken noise

[DaisyCloud]

Mac, BK, Qwags all wolves. Book it

Nope.
Mac, Falcon, Flanders all wolves. Book that!

At least we have an overlap of Mac

Like a wonderful, hairy Venn diagram

We will see who was the closest post game.
Y’know it gonna be me because BK Obv town.

You keep saying BK is town, but just because you name your child Millionaire doesn’t make them rich.

Why is he obvious town?

Because I’ve seen BK wolf and he ain’t wolfing this game.

I should be asleep but I got the hebee jebees. please refresh me about Marmot and Made.

thank you kindly for your time and attention. ♡

[KZA]

To be fair BK is wolfing almost every game on the syndicate but I'm glad Gavial backed his read up with something tangible

[BoKnows]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

bud light lime

gross

[BoKnows]

1. Budweiser- Amazing taste, most alcohol. King of beers
2. PBR - Classic value beer. Decent taste, decent alcohol.
3. Molson Canadian - Alright taste, would have again but not my first choice.
4. Miller Lite - Disappointed, tasted like water I was expecting more tbh

To enjoy any of this, you’d need to already be plastered
Buy some Real Ale Devil’s Backbone or an Arrogant Bastard

tbh I drink 14-15 PBR to be plastered

[Timsup2nothin]

I am the KZA of Mafia

Okay...another very fast driveby...no pings, super cool...voting looks good...and this is the only post I have time for since it's the last one...

And...

I agree.

You, KZA are without question the KZA of mafia. Well done.

also why did @Timsup2nothin say this is his last post????



does it have to do with what Tony said earlier about post restrictions?

No that was exactly what I said it was...I was doing a ton of other stuff today plus running on very little sleep...I game checked looking for pings because I had a minute...like a literal minute...had no pings so I just looked at the last post in the thread and said whatever seemed clever at the time to let everyone know I am still in the game. Kinda similar here, but a have a few minutes, and I have two pings.

[BoKnows]

i am europeandrunk rn

[Timsup2nothin]

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

[DaisyCloud]

Daisy did you leave Minecraft running

Could explain chicken noise

no I didn't. it came from my side closet or my bedroom door. .. both are like kinda right next to each other. I'm too scared to go check. it may not have been a chicken clucking. idk what it could be if it wasn't. like what makes a clucking sound?

I should just burrito under my covers and plug up my phone and sleep and deal with everything later when I wake up. but im scared.
and I'm invested in this game.

I think I planned on dropping the Flanders sus thing tho like earlier. cause he does offer his scums and townies. he just doesn't really explain why. like he expects us to nod our head and agree. but like when he susssd me he kinda was being nit picky at least in my eyes. then that while broken record constant defending qwags phrase thing he was doing. but I scum read him because he ended up voting qwags.. like really? u gonna do a 180°? so maybe I have a tunnel. I need someone with higher brainpower then me to get a read on him.

but like is that fair? probably not. maybe that is what some inactive people are doing . waiting for others to do work because they think they can't.

I just.. like okay. if monkey randed town then he/she needs to step it up. a few posts looked like they were trying to contribute. I low key don't like they said for 0 reasons they town read me. like is that ethos? buddyying.

and I am paranoid about tim. why did he go straight into set up talks and role/nite action stuffs?

why did he completely freely claim for 0 reasons. and he seems so calm and peaceful and other then seanzie and syn day 1 debates, he doesn't care in with others. I don't get it. this isn't Upick but it feels like it.

it's 3am. I type too slow. but i keep popping my head up from my phone looking around every corner.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[KZA]

Daisy is so town wow

I'm putting her right below Syn and just above Scotty on my reads list

I almost hope shes actually a wolf so I get humbled and have to do a KZA redemption arc

[DaisyCloud]

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

[MacDougall]

Mac, BK, Qwags all wolves. Book it

Nope.
Mac, Falcon, Flanders all wolves. Book that!

At least we have an overlap of Mac

Like a wonderful, hairy Venn diagram

[MacDougall]

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

[DaisyCloud]

Daisy is so town wow

I'm putting her right below Syn and just above Scotty on my reads list

I almost hope shes actually a wolf so I get humbled and have to do a KZA redemption arc

I just chocgodogdd

sorry I cussed

I'm town, I promise. I'm too stressed or dumb, actually both to be wolf.

just be town too so I can say im smart about something. okay thanks

[Made]

What if we took Boknows to end game?

I like him, and he's been dying early a lot recently

[Made]

I just want to find a wolf today, because otherwise we’ll keep flandering

How do think we're doing right now? Do you think we're close to a wolf?

[Timsup2nothin]

LOL...well, both pings are one ping...a mention and a quote in the same post.

I feel very wanted! <3

Thank you Daisy!!!

I mouthed off about you! so sorry! owo ♡

but this been a weird nite. I think rl there maybe a chicken trying to murder me is frying my brain. it can't be a chicken.

is this u being a martyr again and that is why you claimed? like don't do that stuff.

No martyr. I need information, so I trade information. My role isn't going to get me anywhere, including killed, in the short term, but in a setup this complicated I think if the entire town tries to keep all their cards tight to their vest we will probably suffer for it. So I shared what looked like it wouldn't hurt to share to lead the way. This seems blatantly obvious, but with five wolves freely sharing information about their roles and how the shrines responded to them they are at a big advantage in figuring stuff out. Some people are gonna take that as role fishing and get timfoily about it and that's just the way it goes.

Now we know some stuff about some stuff.

From the chaos crowd I think maybe we learned something. A bunch of people went to the Sheogorath shrine. At least three claim to have gotten post gimmick curses for their trouble while TSP got a day off the poll, assuming they are all telling the truth. One possibility is that there is a good benefit assigned, maybe randomly or maybe by some priority system, and everyone else gets fucked with. That would fit Sheogorath, lorewise.

That would also make sense of some other issues, like watcher being way to powerful to just hand out to everyone who goes to a shrine. If there is a shrine handing out watcher boons it might just give one per night and everyone else that goes there gets nothing. Gavail says there is a watcher shrine (Nocturnal), and that he chose to go somewhere else last night. That seems like a bad choice to me, and if a lot of people had that choice available it seems like most would have taken it, but we aren't flooded with watcher reports. So only one gets rewarded? Or a lot of people did get watcher power and no one watched Alison get murdered? Or someone did see Alison get murdered and doesn't want to risk telling us about it? Or Gavail is fake on the claim? Some things seem more plausible there than others.

That's what I have put together on the setup. My own input is that one other person went to the same shrine I did (Sanguine) and I have no idea who, or what they got. If whatever gets handed out there is a "only one gets blessed" thing I think I wouldn't even be eligible so it would just go to them automatically. The only thing I can imagine that might come useful out of that info is if for some reason someone admits to being the other Sanguine visitor and then someone else claims they were there too, because that makes one of the three of us a liar. Probably not happening.

Anyway, I was asleep, and woke up to clean up after a puking dog so now I am wide awake at the most inconvenient of times so I'll maybe read some thread here...although the longer I stay up the more screwed my sleep schedule is gonna get.

[Timsup2nothin]

Tim did strongly imply he was on a post count. So I’ll need to go back sometime later and see how strong his scum read of marmot really is.

And I’m not gonna @ her about it, but Daisy could vote for...someone she finds suspicious at this point instead of a parked no-vote. There’s no a hammer, don’t be shy.

If I implied that it was unintentional. I was just super busy. I am reading backwards through what I missed but I am not likely to read it all in the time I am gonna have available before EoD.

My read on Marmot is not actually mine.

Syn is extremely sharp, and is (high probability true) green checked. He was pushing.

Kyle I have down as a lean town. He was pushing.

Mac I have down as a lean town. He was pushing.

It seemed like a good push to back since I had no time to read and nothing inclining me to lean town on Marmot. If I make time to ISO Marmot and have anything of my own to add I will post it clearly. If someone trustworthy spells out a "Tim GTFO Marmot's town" case I'll listen.

[Timsup2nothin]

i lost $270 at craps. Damned 7’s

Ok it’s been most of the day and...

Why is it just me, Flanders and KZA are even contemplating voting Qwags? This resounding silence tells me we might be onto something.

Especially since a generally scummy duo of Made and Qwags is voting for marmot.

Am I in crazy town?

No, that's not crazy town.

[Timsup2nothin]

how come syn and tim are voting out Marmot. and so is qwags and Made.

and iirc several say made and qwags are real sus. but like tim and syn are real townie.

how come several people don't like Enrique and think he is mafia but not voting him. and nacho, who is voting him is supposed to be sus?

how come tim thinks the voting looks good? what about the voting looks good?

At the time there were two tied wagons. They were both on people I have zero towny feel on. One I am uncomfortably suss of, and the other multiple people I think are town were pushing. In the time I had available too root around in it, that looked good. Right now Scotty has me thinking the vote count looks less good...maybe. So now I am staying up to root around.

And maybe to have a sandwich.

[Timsup2nothin]

chilling feeling good about my Daisy townread

Since I have you pretty close to lock clear I appreciate this read. I have Daisy as a town lean based on EoD1. The vote move off and back on to the Seanzie wagon I think displayed a towny level of uncertainty about how to handle his vague claim. A wolf on the wagon there sees "oh a claim, yeah full speed ahead on this chop" unless there's a mass bail off the wagon.

Yes, I know I said "full speed ahead on this chop" at the time.

In my defense I did suggest a flash chop on Nanook and was overridden by Alison who is flipped town.

Yes I know that Nanook has also been flipped as town so my suggestion there is also smelly.

[Timsup2nothin]

Like fuck eh. Qwags - always mafia even if he isnt. He sure as hell looks like it now.

This is a problem for me Flanders.

I have people on my home site that "are always mafia even when they aren't." Two different kinds in fact.

There's me. I start every game wrapped in so much tinfoil because of my past behavior that I have to come out the gate fending of a "just in case" chop. You saw the Syn tunnel day one here. That's one kind of "always mafia" to be pushed, but that's obviously not what you are saying about Qwags.

The other kind is the low hanging fruit kind. Always gets chopped early because no matter who the wolf team is they are comfortable that they can. Just...always easy to suss and doesn't have a really strong skillset for "towning it up" to get off the hook. People know that they could just slank that to a win, so they are always inclined to just early chop "just in case" and because "can't have that at end game."

So I get it. But if someone from my home site like that is here I am shielding them, at least partially, because even this early on town can't afford to just throw away a chop. Maybe I'm mad at them for not being able to fend off mischops. Maybe I'm saying "this is just a lhf thing and everyone needs to take a breath here." Maybe a lot of things. But one thing I am NOT doing is saying "looks wolfy, charge!!!" because I would be first in line saying "they always look wolfy though."

You are the one saying that they always look wolfy, but at the same time you seem to be leading the chop with nothing more than "because they look wolfy." That's a not really towny contradiction to me.

Please consider and respond.

[Timsup2nothin]

what's the case on qwags?

He hasn't done anything and doesn't seem to be on track to and cant be retained till endgame

This is a valid thought, but Flanders just going along with it still seems super sketchy.

Like, yes, Qwags has nothing going for them and doesn't seem likely to get anything going for them...but heck we may get lucky and some great mafia player just bones up a green check on them and turns them into an unexpected demand on the wolves for a night kill. I mean, that does happen sometimes.

And I think Flanders postion, if he is town, should be more like "Qwags is always like that and sure maybe we need to chop him but just know that "because he isn't looking towny" is not really a wolf indication so this could be wrong." Flanders is really the wrong guy to be leading the charge.

@Stupid Sexy Flanders I get your position on Qwags well enough and I might be willing to forgive it...but I really need you to suggest some possible wolf reads. Like, not just "hasn't done anything particularly towny," but real solid "saw them do this and it seems really sketch to me" stuff. I need to know what qualifies as "looks wolfy" in your world.

[Timsup2nothin]

Tim could be pocketing me but this ain't my first rodeo

This isnt even a rodeo you can tell because no bulls

[Timsup2nothin]

marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?

i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?

Obviously in that game I had TMI because I was scum, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't think there was some semblance of truth to it.

Has this happened to you in a wolf game? If it has, I'll reconsider my stance.

i feel like it has but i don't know enough about myself to dispute it. i know i tend to tunnel on things that end up being minutia. i guess i don't remember for sure if i've replicated it as mafia but i think i'd be capable of it? i can't think of any specific examples

the crux of my concern here is that i think given our recentmost games i feel like you'd be more apprehensive about your ability to townread me, i.e. stardew. the ease at which you town read me in double elimination was actually one of the red flags i ignored there. what's different here? please tell me about your kyle-reading process

Is this an honest post Kyle?

[Timsup2nothin]

Nacho may be the lowest poster by far in this game, but he's somehow done more in those 5 posts than Qwags, Enrique or Quin.

The "randomly throw out some LHF options" defense is not a great look Marmot.

Just sayin'.

[Timsup2nothin]

Alright then. Let's light a fire under Qwags ass and see if he gets moving.

Again here...

You seem to be saying that on your home forum this "light a fire under his ass" play generally doesn't work, so you leading the push with it here seems waaaaaaay off to me.

On the other hand, you don't strike me as the "okay pack, I'm gonna go out there and dirty wolf it and lead the town to the mischop" type. More a "blend in and let the town make their own bad choices" type.

Tell me Flanders, do you play the dirty wolf when you wolf? Don't lie, because I am very experienced in the world of the dirty wolf and I will catch you out.

[Timsup2nothin]

I betcha that mafia sword artifact was used on a someone more town-leaning last night, and failed.

I would also bet that that target will be the NK tonite. Makes sense to me. Not that this info has any bearing on anything

It has five charges, so if I was wolf I would be itching to use it. Leads me to agree they probably fired it off and hoped for the bonus kill, yes. Whether the target they chose last night will still be a high enough priority to be the NK tonight is a different question though. There are people I would say have likely bubbled to the top of the NK list today that likely displaced anyone they tried to razor last night.

People have already said that the mech spec strikes them as wolfy, but you are persisting. Obviously so am I, but I am notorious for an IDGAF attitude towards the "eww that looks wolfy" kneejerkers in the crowd. What are your motives for risking their ire?

[Timsup2nothin]

kza, scottie, syn, DC and mac are my town leans.

Who the heck is DC?

Why are they a town lean?

So you think it is weird that no one else has asked you who this mysterious town lean is? Do you think it means that no one cares about your reads? It seems extremely weird to me.

[Timsup2nothin]

So you too are in the "no info on what shrines do what" category. There seem to be a whole lot of varieties in this role business. Post game gonna be really interesting.

I went to Hircine, thinking I might get a track or something, but instead I got ghosted.

Interesting. I suspect this is where Gavial went to get his claimed track, then.

Only one ability of a kind doled out per night?

But that wouldn't jive with the Sheogorath results.

TSP got a good result from Sheogorath and the rest got fucked with. The other shrines might work on a "one good result, rest get nothing" basis. Sheogorath being that kind of "special" makes sense.

[Timsup2nothin]

kza, scottie, syn, DC and mac are my town leans.

Who the heck is DC?

Why are they a town lean?

So you think it is weird that no one else has asked you who this mysterious town lean is? Do you think it means that no one cares about your reads? It seems extremely weird to me.

Nevermind...DC is Daisy, I get it.

[Timsup2nothin]

Shit, sixteen in a row.

Well, maybe there will be pings when whatever passes for morning on my now totally busted sleep schedule comes around.

[Enrique]

I will be back into things soon. Sorry for the absence, it’s been a super hectic few days. Still playing.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tim just did a tsp

[Gavial]

Mac, BK, Qwags all wolves. Book it

Nope.
Mac, Falcon, Flanders all wolves. Book that!

At least we have an overlap of Mac

Like a wonderful, hairy Venn diagram

We will see who was the closest post game.
Y’know it gonna be me because BK Obv town.

You keep saying BK is town, but just because you name your child Millionaire doesn’t make them rich.

Why is he obvious town?

Because I’ve seen BK wolf and he ain’t wolfing this game.

I should be asleep but I got the hebee jebees. please refresh me about Marmot and Made.

thank you kindly for your time and attention. ♡

I’m sorry, I mean I mentioned made a couple times but I like never really even mentioned marmot?
I don’t like this post of yours here.

[Gavial]

bit off topic but a bit not.. umm guys.. i am freaked out as all get out. I was going through Flanders iso u know all set to make the case and then I heard a chicken clucking. it scared me to death. I freaking chicken in my room. it is 2:30am as I type this. I can't make this stuff up.

okay. so idk if that means he isn't scum or that means he is.

well I'm not voting Flanders so there u go. I promise you this is real and not some made up thing for the game and theatrics.

scotty. okay so new plan is going to look at my scum leans. Gavial, made and and

then think about monkey, nacho and Enrique, qwags and quin. . those 3 are slankers and last 2 kinda post but don't. doing nothing. a town could be in there. not emoght to lynch them.

I do not like qwags and gavial the most.

I only saw 1 game with Gavial. we both were town. he is playing so different here. he seemed more contributing in last game.

is he going on about sk because he is sk? my tin foily potatoe sheep 1 brain cell left of a brain thinks so but my right toe says I'm wrong.

and Marmot seems more contributing this game. he has alot of fluff but he seems to be doing stuff.

I can take a stand.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Mac/Falcon/Daisy/Flanders/Some last dude

That’s my guess.

[Gavial]

Daisy is so town wow

I'm putting her right below Syn and just above Scotty on my reads list

I almost hope shes actually a wolf so I get humbled and have to do a KZA redemption arc

I just chocgodogdd

sorry I cussed

I'm town, I promise. I'm too stressed or dumb, actually both to be wolf.

just be town too so I can say im smart about something. okay thanks

@KZA

Don’t be fooled.
There’s a different between AI and real strong Townie Playstyle.
Daisy has a real strong Townie Playstyle which is NAI.

[Gavial]

You need to find those little things.
Not quite slips but perception. Like a catch.
That’s how you find scum.