The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:19 am**

you have a lot of gall to get frustrated when the sole reason we dont trust you as much is because you have been trolling and virtually scumclaiming the entire game

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Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:19 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:16 am What's bothering you right now NAA? Is my approach taking town down the wrong path?

Stop trolling, this is endgame.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:21 am**

Tell me what you want, I'm willing to talk about it.

Otherwise, I'll just keep going with what I was doing.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:22 am**

Let's cool it on the claims of trolling, por favor.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:21 am Tell me what you want, I'm willing to talk about it.

Otherwise, I'll just keep going with what I was doing.

I'll give you time to come around to believing my claim, and then we'll talk, I feel like you're just trolling final 6 right now, but maybe you're just not caught up

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:24 am**

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:22 am Let's cool it on the claims of trolling, por favor.

Didn't see

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:26 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:23 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:21 am Tell me what you want, I'm willing to talk about it.

Otherwise, I'll just keep going with what I was doing.
I'll give you time to come around to believing my claim, and then we'll talk, I feel like you're just trolling final 6 right now, but maybe you're just not caught up

I don't know what your claim is, that's where I'm at. Maybe I just missed it or something.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:29 am**

Like I see that Michelle is the Insane Cop and also checked you Mafia, that makes you not Mafia, yes.

I double-checked SoA's statement, he said there is more than one 3P. Two have flipped already, so it doesn't completely bar you from also being one.

You said there's another piece of info in the game that makes you not 3P, what is that?

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:30 am**

Regardless, NAA is defintitely not getting chopped today, because we need to chop mafia. If SoA isn't mafia and we don't chop mafia, the game is over.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:31 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:29 am Like I see that Michelle is the Insane Cop and also checked you Mafia, that makes you not Mafia, yes.

I double-checked SoA's statement, he said there is more than one 3P. Two have flipped already, so it doesn't completely bar you from also being one.

You said there's another piece of info in the game that makes you not 3P, what is that?

Ah, I thought SoA had said there were 2 3p my bad, well I guess I'm not confirmed not 3p.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:44 am**

Anyway, I need to go to bed.

Not really sure where to go next. It sounds like we're between chopping Jack or Paopan. I guess MafiaMenace is still on the list, but I doubt he's mafia.

There's still an outside chance that SoA and NAA are partners, but I don't think that's the case. Michelle died, and it probably was NAA that did it, and while there could be a day-vig, it likely wouldn't be a mafia role.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:49 am**

I kinda wish SoA was modkilled, because it's so late in the game to replace that slot.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:10 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:04 am I'm double-checking this list and reposting for my own understanding

There will be at least 1 Sane Town Cop. - **Probably True** - claimed by MafiaMenace
There will be at least 1 Insane Town Cop. - **Confirmed** - Michelle
There will be no Day Vigilante. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Lie Detector. - **Unconfirmed** claimed by Paopan
There will be at least 1 Role that’s pointless.
There will be at least 1 Mafia. - **Confirmed**
There will be at least 1 Third Party. - **Confirmed**
There will be no Post Restriction roles. - **Probably True**
There will be at least 1 Loyal role. - **Confirmed** - LinearPoint
There will be no Vanilla roles because they suck. - **Probably True**
There will be only two roles without a modifier.
There will be no redirection roles of any kind.
There will be at least 8 Town roles. - **Confirmed** - 7 have flipped + Marmot
There will be at least 1 role with a day ability. - **Confirmed** - Lime Coke
There will only be one of the above that’s a lie.

By the way, everything on this list is confirmed except for cop and redirect.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:35 am**

if a poisoner is somehow town deadass im avoiding you like the plague after this

the fact that town!you can be so arrogant but also so hellbent on the idea that i just HAVE to be mafia is insane

there is no way you are town and if you are wtf are u doing

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:37 am**

not to mention the last “town vigilante” was 3p that had the wincon of getting a cop killed

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:09 am**

Hey guys. I forgot about this game. I learned that the lie in this setup is that there is no sane cop btw

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:10 am**

I have no idea what’s going on whatsoever. That’s just the info I received

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:10 am**

I’m gonna back read but like no quotin’ ‘cause that’ll take forever

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:11 am**

Sorry the EOD and SOD times are really confusin’ for me

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:14 am**

and theres the scumclaim lol

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:15 am**

who woulda thought scum!soa has zero self preservation on day one

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:14 am**

the oracle results are incredibly inconsistent
you telling me you get generic shit like "theres more than one 3p" and then suddenly you get told what the lie is conveniently when my claim is called into question?

i mean shit maybe the bastard game is trolling everyone and im a cop who will only get red checks or smth but afaik thats just a wolf claim

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:15 am**

i dont trust naa to have actually targeted soa so again im just gonna stick here

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:32 am**

Yeah, the fact that SoA's claim today is a direct counter to MM's looks too convenient.

NAA can't be mafia, so it is still possible that he targeted SoA.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:35 am**

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:11 am Sorry the EOD and SOD times are really confusin’ for me

It's fine. The Day started about ~10 hours ago, so we've got until roughly 11PM EDT on Tuesday (or whenever the host says that it ends.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:00 am**

Hi @Paopan did you Lie-Detect anything last night?

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:07 am**

So cool that no one died today. I was expecting to die while on a 21h work shift.
Anyway, SOA, Marmot, MM, Jack, Me, and NAA. There are 6 people remaining
and it is 3 town, 2 mafia, and 1 neutral correct?
SoA, liar will die today due to poison.
So there are going to be 4-5 players left tonight.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am**

21 hour work shift??? Wtf? That's insane!

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am**

I'm sure that Jack is town, MM is 50-50 because of his sig. You making game confusing you know?? Marmot is suspicious.

Mafia are SoA/Marmot and SoA/MM.

I suggest we lynch between Marmot or MM. Otherwise, don't lynch at all.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am**

How do you know SoA is the liar? Did you lie-detect him?

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:09 am**

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am I'm sure that Jack is town, MM is 50-50 because of his sig. You making game confusing you know?? Marmot is suspicious.

Mafia are SoA/Marmot and SoA/MM.

I suggest we lynch between Marmot or MM. Otherwise, don't lynch at all.

I'm cleared town, so you don't have to worry about me.

See here

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:10 am**

How much are you caught up on Paopan, are you available to chat?

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:11 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 am 21 hour work shift??? Wtf? That's insane!

9am - 6pm
then 6pm to 5am...

It's only temporary becos of the deadlines.
Don't want to be specific. But it has something to do with the client's annual budget (ISP) for the next year.
So workload is huge at this month.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am**

Yeah sure, I can chat a little. I'm a lil tired. All I have been doing is excel excel excel.

Are you town Marmot? I'm currently 50-50 bt. you and MM

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am**

Fair, but also ew. I've worked a 20hour day in the past, will never do it again unless it's an emergency.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am**

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am Yeah sure, I can chat a little. I'm a lil tired. All I have been doing is excel excel excel.

Are you town Marmot? I'm currently 50-50 bt. you and MM

Yeah, I posted a link above where I was cleared as town inno child.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:13 am**

Can you tell me who/what post you lie-detected last night?

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:14 am**

Oh and also, how are you certain there's a 3P? Do you think that NAA is the 3P?

That's kinda where I'm at too, but we need to kill a wolf today regardless.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:15 am**

And if you need to take a break from cpu and answer later, that's fine too. I have to leave for work soon anyway, and won't be online until late tonight probs.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:17 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:12 am Fair, but also ew. I've worked a 20hour day in the past, will never do it again unless it's an emergency.

It's an emergency thingy so yeah.. I really wanted to die last night (this game, not IRL).
But I'm on the 60-80 hours per week bracket.

I'm tired to navigate but it's #978 and is a lie.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:18 am**

Quoting post #978 here

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:30 am Seein' as I might die here, figure I'll just claim. My role ain't that great, but I'm a town oracle. I get information about the setup each night.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:19 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:14 am Oh and also, how are you certain there's a 3P? Do you think that NAA is the 3P?

That's kinda where I'm at too, but we need to kill a wolf today regardless.

How can you explain how Michelle died?
If he's so ballsy to claim it as wolf. Then he's good IMO.
Is not really that of a priority since neutral sides with us.

He/she also poisoned a mafia.
So in reality, there is only one mafia left for tonight (or none if we lynch him today).

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:21 am**

What makes more sense?
Mafia not attacking, or mafia hitting a healed person?

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:23 am**

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:19 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:14 am Oh and also, how are you certain there's a 3P? Do you think that NAA is the 3P?

That's kinda where I'm at too, but we need to kill a wolf today regardless.
How can you explain how Michelle died?
If he's so ballsy to claim it as wolf. Then he's good IMO.
Is not really that of a priority since neutral sides with us.

He/she also poisoned a mafia.
So in reality, there is only one mafia left for tonight (or none if we lynch him today).

In my experience, Poisoners are anti-town 3P roles that need to reach parity with everyone else to win. That's my concern.

But fortunately, Michelle checked NAA as mafia (which, since she was insane cop, means NAA is not mafia), so he's clear from that.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:24 am**

Oh. Wait. I finally get it.

I realized that MM was kinda "confirmed town" when he rides on Michelle's investigative result.
They may have a consigliere and wanted to kill Sig because he's a roleblocker.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:24 am**

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:21 am What makes more sense?
Mafia not attacking, or mafia hitting a healed person?

Assuming the doctor can't self-target, that means Jack had a 20% chance to protect whoever the mafia killed.

Honestly, I'm a little surprised they wouldn't just kill Jack.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:25 am**

Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:24 am Oh. Wait. I finally get it.

I realized that MM was kinda "confirmed town" when he rides on Michelle's investigative result.
They may have a consigliere and wanted to kill Sig because he's a roleblocker.

What does consig do again?

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:26 am**

Oh. Poisoner doesn't win with town? Neutral evil eh.

Hmmm in a scenario SoA died today. If we lynch MM Mafia.
It's 3v1 tomorrow.

If we don't lynch anyone.
It's 3v1v1 tonight.
Mafia kills 1
It's 2v1v1 and we lose.

So it's MYLO that we lynch scum, MM.
I guess we are kinda lucky that a Mafia was poisoned today.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:30 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:25 am
Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:24 am Oh. Wait. I finally get it.

I realized that MM was kinda "confirmed town" when he rides on Michelle's investigative result.
They may have a consigliere and wanted to kill Sig because he's a roleblocker.
What does consig do again?

A player can know the role of someone. Kinda Mafia Investigative. I'm just assuming here cos I'm really not that familiar with the game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:24 am
Paopan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:21 am What makes more sense?
Mafia not attacking, or mafia hitting a healed person?
Assuming the doctor can't self-target, that means Jack had a 20% chance to protect whoever the mafia killed.

Honestly, I'm a little surprised they wouldn't just kill Jack.

I'm also baffled with this. Is there a mechanical reason why won't they?
Ah this is kinda annoying when the roles available aren't available in the setup. I just can't deduce anything.

Posted: **Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:31 am**

Collecting these posts for ease of access. These are Paopan's lie-detected statements.

Night 1 - False

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:37 pm I'm VT, I expect you all to let me carry you this game, always vote with me, never vote anyone other that who I'm voting and we will win this.

Night 2 - True

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:08 am I am town!

Late to the party I see

Night 3 - True

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:43 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:34 pm Btw there's a 0% chance I get yeeted today so you might as well not bother.
Why is that?
Because I'm the doctor.

Random doctor, to be specific. I'm assuming I've either accidentally stopped a kill (possibly twice) or there's no sker and the wolves are making doc dodge kills.

Either scenario confirms me town.

Night 4 - False

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:30 am Seein' as I might die here, figure I'll just claim. My role ain't that great, but I'm a town oracle. I get information about the setup each night.

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