The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:38 pm My slow prodding catch up is done. I am here and mostly up to date on the happenings. But the thread is dead. I need real time interactions. I crave real time interactions. Somebody step out of the shadows and keep me company.
I'm around
Who are your strongest town reads in the game so far?

JJJ, Mac, BK, yourself

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:24 pm I like Sloonei's vibe

I remembered that Al is never posting much, so I read his posts. In a vacuum he looks good. But I didn't read any context to make a more educated guess.

what did you like about his posts?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:28 pm**

That quote is broken -_-

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:28 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:38 pm My slow prodding catch up is done. I am here and mostly up to date on the happenings. But the thread is dead. I need real time interactions. I crave real time interactions. Somebody step out of the shadows and keep me company.
I'm around
Who are your strongest town reads in the game so far?
JJJ, Mac, BK, yourself

You listed me twice.

Can you substantiate that Bo read? I want to agree with it, but I'm having trouble articulating a reason.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:29 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:03 pm what the hell
my bad, J, not trying to step on your toes
Umm.. Why not?

There's a joke in there that has fallen flat due in large part to an untimely quotation failure.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:32 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:24 pm I like Sloonei's vibe

I remembered that Al is never posting much, so I read his posts. In a vacuum he looks good. But I didn't read any context to make a more educated guess.
what did you like about his posts?

What I like about black coffee? It's simple, efficient and you drink it fast because when it's cold isn't as good as hot
Al's posts are simple and efficient and easy/fast to read. If he has a visible agenda, should be noticeable after few flips. Until then, I think we have to look for scum elsewhere

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:32 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:10 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:06 pm finished my exam... jays are making me mad... what's going on
This post is sure to spark some confusion, so let me point out that BoKnows is probably talking about the Toronto Blue Jays, and not JaggedJimmyJay.

Roark throwing BP out there today

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:32 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:29 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:03 pm what the hell
my bad, J, not trying to step on your toes
Umm.. Why not?
There's a joke in there that has fallen flat due in large part to an untimely quotation failure.

Aww poor joke.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:36 pm**

Names in tiers ordered alphabetically:

Strong town reads -- if there's a mafioso in this pile, they're truly "deep"

Esooa
falcon45ca
MacDougall
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Lesser town reads -- if there's a mafioso in this pile, I'm not sure they're really in a strong winning position so it's not an emergency

Alison
fingersplints
Oddmerta
SPF

Lesser lesser town reads -- if there's a mafioso in this pile, they probably don't feel comfortable and they shouldn't

Michelle
tutuu
Nanook

Current POE pool of nine

AL_sama
BoKnows
Dom
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
tedxtr
TSP

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:36 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:24 pm I like Sloonei's vibe

I remembered that Al is never posting much, so I read his posts. In a vacuum he looks good. But I didn't read any context to make a more educated guess.
what did you like about his posts?
What I like about black coffee? It's simple, efficient and you drink it fast because when it's cold isn't as good as hot
Al's posts are simple and efficient and easy/fast to read. If he has a visible agenda, should be noticeable after few flips. Until then, I think we have to look for scum elsewhere

This post is delightful and I'm going to slap a strong town read on you for it.

@JaggedJimmyJay is this post good enough to cross Michelle's name off your list?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:36 pm Names in tiers ordered alphabetically:

Strong town reads -- if there's a mafioso in this pile, they're truly "deep"

Esooa
falcon45ca
MacDougall
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Lesser town reads -- if there's a mafioso in this pile, I'm not sure they're really in a strong winning position so it's not an emergency

Alison
fingersplints
Oddmerta
SPF

Lesser lesser town reads -- if there's a mafioso in this pile, they probably don't feel comfortable and they shouldn't

Michelle
tutuu
Nanook

Current POE pool of nine

AL_sama
BoKnows
Dom
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
tedxtr
TSP

Can you expand your thoughts on Odd, and Straw please?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:41 pm**

we're bringing it back

@JaggedJimmyJay why am I so high

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:41 pm**

jay asks a question that i'm already in the process of answering.

several minutes later, i ask a question that jay is already in the process of answering.

we're self-parodies.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:42 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:36 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:24 pm I like Sloonei's vibe

I remembered that Al is never posting much, so I read his posts. In a vacuum he looks good. But I didn't read any context to make a more educated guess.
what did you like about his posts?
What I like about black coffee? It's simple, efficient and you drink it fast because when it's cold isn't as good as hot
Al's posts are simple and efficient and easy/fast to read. If he has a visible agenda, should be noticeable after few flips. Until then, I think we have to look for scum elsewhere
This post is delightful and I'm going to slap a strong town read on you for it.

@JaggedJimmyJay is this post good enough to cross Michelle's name off your list?

I don't get "strong town read" from that Michelle post, but I do think it's a decent post. You also asked this question just as I was posting a POE with Michelle crossed off the list.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:42 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:41 pm we're bringing it back

@JaggedJimmyJay why am I so high

Drugs?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:42 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:41 pm we're bringing it back

@JaggedJimmyJay why am I so high

We told you to only take one hit, but you just insisted on going back for more.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 pm**

damnit I was too late to make the esooweed joke

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 pm damnit I was too late to make the esooweed joke

How do you feel about the game currently? I don't have a solid read on you so I want to pick your brain a little

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm Can you expand your thoughts on Odd, and Straw please?

My read on Oddmerta is a bit of a product of my other reads. A lot of my town reads have to be wrong about Oddmerta for him to be mafia, and I don't think he's that suspicious myself anyway. If one of my town reads that has vouched for Oddmerta ends up mafia, perhaps that'll be something to revisit later. For now I'm fine with him.

Strawhenge is probably the easiest read on the board for me. His posts radiate the purity of a player returning after five years away from Mafia with a town role card, uncertainty about how to get into business, and an admirable motor to do it anyway.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:46 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:41 pm we're bringing it back

@JaggedJimmyJay why am I so high

I just decided that within the last ten minutes or so. I think you have started to take "shape" more as the game has proceeded, and I recognize much of the same spirit I saw in Bread Mafia. I don't sense agenda from your play, and I do sense authentic development of your world view.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm Can you expand your thoughts on Odd, and Straw please?
My read on Oddmerta is a bit of a product of my other reads. A lot of my town reads have to be wrong about Oddmerta for him to be mafia, and I don't think he's that suspicious myself anyway. If one of my town reads that has vouched for Oddmerta ends up mafia, perhaps that'll be something to revisit later. For now I'm fine with him.

Strawhenge is probably the easiest read on the board for me. His posts radiate the purity of a player returning after five years away from Mafia with a town role card, uncertainty about how to get into business, and an admirable motor to do it anyway.

I'm a huge fan of the Odd reasoning tbh. It reminds me of synthetic CDOs. You're betting (reading) on other peoples reads and hoping it all falls in place. Is there anything in Odds content that makes you believe he's town?

I do agree with this. I also think if Straw randed wolf in his first game back in five years he would be playing a little more conservative and not sticking out his neck like he did earlier today.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:49 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm Can you expand your thoughts on Odd, and Straw please?
My read on Oddmerta is a bit of a product of my other reads. A lot of my town reads have to be wrong about Oddmerta for him to be mafia, and I don't think he's that suspicious myself anyway. If one of my town reads that has vouched for Oddmerta ends up mafia, perhaps that'll be something to revisit later. For now I'm fine with him.

Strawhenge is probably the easiest read on the board for me. His posts radiate the purity of a player returning after five years away from Mafia with a town role card, uncertainty about how to get into business, and an admirable motor to do it anyway.
I'm a huge fan of the Odd reasoning tbh. It reminds me of synthetic CDOs. You're betting (reading) on other peoples reads and hoping it all falls in place. Is there anything in Odds content that makes you believe he's town?

I do agree with this. I also think if Straw randed wolf in his first game back in five years he would be playing a little more conservative and not sticking out his neck like he did earlier today.

NOT A HUGE FAN

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:50 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 pm damnit I was too late to make the esooweed joke

How do you feel about the game currently? I don't have a solid read on you so I want to pick your brain a little

That's far too open ended for me to respond to

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:51 pm**

Mafia members need to hard town shield their partners more

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:51 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm I'm NOT a huge fan of the Odd reasoning tbh. It reminds me of synthetic CDOs. You're betting (reading) on other peoples reads and hoping it all falls in place. Is there anything in Odds content that makes you believe he's town?

I can understand that it might make you uneasy, but I think this is the kind of thing that too many towns in the game of Mafia lack.

Teamwork.

Trust your team. I don't know everything. My teammates can help me, but only if I let them. When people cocoon up and play in their own little worlds, town loses.

Oddmerta's posts aren't hard to interpret from a town view at least. I have seen plenty of town-aligned players play with similar frankness, bravado, and [potentially] confirmation bias.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:52 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:51 pm Mafia members need to hard town shield their partners more

Translate please.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:52 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:51 pm Mafia members need to hard town shield their partners more

Is someone doing that?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:50 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 pm damnit I was too late to make the esooweed joke

How do you feel about the game currently? I don't have a solid read on you so I want to pick your brain a little
That's far too open ended for me to respond to

1.) How do you feel about the game currently?
A. Excellent
B. Good.
C. Neutral
D. Poor
E. Horrible

2.) What makes you feel this way about the current game state? _____________________

3.) Out of the reads you have already provided which ones are you most confident in? ________________

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:38 pm My slow prodding catch up is done. I am here and mostly up to date on the happenings. But the thread is dead. I need real time interactions. I crave real time interactions. Somebody step out of the shadows and keep me company.
I'm around
Who are your strongest town reads in the game so far?
JJJ, Mac, BK, yourself
You listed me twice.

Can you substantiate that Bo read? I want to agree with it, but I'm having trouble articulating a reason.

I don't see how JJJ, BK, Mac, and you is listing you twice, but whatever.

BKs posting is light and easy, stress free. I think he'd be more focused on appearing solvey if he randed scum (again). It's like a weight's taken off his shoulders not having to scum again.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:50 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 pm damnit I was too late to make the esooweed joke

How do you feel about the game currently? I don't have a solid read on you so I want to pick your brain a little
That's far too open ended for me to respond to
1.) How do you feel about the game currently?
A. Excellent
B. Good.
C. Neutral
D. Poor
E. Horrible

2.) What makes you feel this way about the current game state? _____________________

3.) Out of the reads you have already provided which ones are you most confident in? ________________

E

I suck

Anyone I called town in my rainbow list

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:54 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm I don't see how JJJ, BK, Mac, and you is listing you twice, but whatever.

yeah I misread you, my bad

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:54 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:51 pm Mafia members need to hard town shield their partners more
Translate please.

Just in general. It has great effectiveness. The implication for this game is that usually they don’t and thus there’s no reason to assume that Odd is a wolf

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:55 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:51 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm I'm NOT a huge fan of the Odd reasoning tbh. It reminds me of synthetic CDOs. You're betting (reading) on other peoples reads and hoping it all falls in place. Is there anything in Odds content that makes you believe he's town?
I can understand that it might make you uneasy, but I think this is the kind of thing that too many towns in the game of Mafia lack.

Teamwork.

Trust your team. I don't know everything. My teammates can help me, but only if I let them. When people cocoon up and play in their own little worlds, town loses.

Oddmerta's posts aren't hard to interpret from a town view at least. I have seen plenty of town-aligned players play with similar frankness, bravado, and [potentially] confirmation bias.

I'm all in for teamwork it's just that I'm still trying to figure out who is on my team this early into the game. I would feel more comfortable with the idea of teamwork after a nightfall or two and players start to fall into place.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:57 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:50 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 pm damnit I was too late to make the esooweed joke

How do you feel about the game currently? I don't have a solid read on you so I want to pick your brain a little
That's far too open ended for me to respond to
1.) How do you feel about the game currently?
A. Excellent
B. Good.
C. Neutral
D. Poor
E. Horrible

2.) What makes you feel this way about the current game state? _____________________

3.) Out of the reads you have already provided which ones are you most confident in? ________________
E

I suck

Anyone I called town in my rainbow list

so you are most confident in your town reads...

You don't like the current progression of the game though?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm**

I'm tempted to replace Bo with tutuu in my POE pool.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm**

@everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm I'm tempted to replace Bo with tutuu in my POE pool.

this is becoming absurd.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:02 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?

Gun to my head I say no. But it'd also be 0% surprising.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:03 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?

Agree

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?

My feeling on her has been flipping back and forth today. Right now I'm going to say no. Mainly because she's coming across as care free and is going with the flow. It's frustrating trying to get information out of her which I don't like though.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:02 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?

Gun to my head I say no. But it'd also be 0% surprising.

What's the first reason you'd cite if I continued holding the gun to your head and asked why?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?
Agree

Why?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm I don't see how JJJ, BK, Mac, and you is listing you twice, but whatever.

yeah I misread you, my bad

I thought it was Sloonei who misread me?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:06 pm**

When I am super honest with myself within my POE pool, I can even consider removing KZA, JPIC, and maybe TSP (check out this inverse salad). The game feels pretty nicely constricted, and names like Long Con, Marmot, and tedxtr continue to stand out to me.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:07 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?
My feeling on her has been flipping back and forth today. Right now I'm going to say no. Mainly because she's coming across as care free and is going with the flow. It's frustrating trying to get information out of her which I don't like though.

"carefree" is tutuu's M.O., but I've felt a few times like she's straining to pull that off this game. I'm not totally sure I see her "going with the flow" though. What do you mean when you say that she's doing that?

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:07 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:57 pm so you are most confident in your town reads...

You don't like the current progression of the game though?

I don't know what that means at all

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:07 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?
Agree
Why?

The amount & type of misspellings during her D0 entrance, her limited scum list of what 3? Her reasoning (lack thereof) for her scum reads. She's bringing more confusion than clarity to the game as a whole.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:07 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm I don't see how JJJ, BK, Mac, and you is listing you twice, but whatever.

yeah I misread you, my bad
I thought it was Sloonei who misread me?

"Sloonei and JJJ are the same person" is a running joke.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:08 pm**

as evidenced by the three separate occasions in which one of us has preemptively answered a question from the other in the last hour.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:10 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:06 pm When I am super honest with myself within my POE pool, I can even consider removing KZA, JPIC, and maybe TSP (check out this inverse salad). The game feels pretty nicely constricted, and names like Long Con, Marmot, and tedxtr continue to stand out to me.

Long Con has become a bit like Wilgy to me, in that he seems to always draw suspicion early in every game, and my default posture is to defend him from that. I slapped an impulsive town read on Marmot earlier but I don't love it as much as I did in the moment. I have not looked at ted at all.

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