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Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:36 pm
by KZA
Wiml wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:14 pm
KZA wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:40 pm i have 100 percent certainty on the identity of the last wolf
prove it
MissSparkles wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:56 pm Idk I wasn’t here, so we’re betting the game earlier on KZA then we need too? Why exactly!?
Wiml wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:03 pm We don't. If in some fringe world KZA is a wolf I won't just give up and let us lose.
well if you guys want to exile someone else 3 times then let's hear it
We don't need to. We can exile every single age 2 times each and never lose to exile.
I guess or we could just exile a townie 3 times and mech lock the game which is slightly riskier but probably much faster

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:25 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
vote: tsp

I believe he’s here

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:25 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:25 pm vote: tsp

I believe he’s here
oh nice

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:25 pm
by MacDougall
quick hammer tsp hes conceded

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:26 pm
by MacDougall
thank you tsp .... or should I say tsg

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:28 pm
by Creature
Is it bad I'm in disbelief?

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:34 pm
by KZA
#thankyoutsp

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:36 pm
by Creature
Okay

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:37 pm
by Creature
gg

You somehow got Poison lynched before you

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:39 pm
by KZA
TSP if you flip town I won't be mad because yeeting TSP is always funny

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:46 pm
by MacDougall
just need one more to hammer

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:47 pm
by MacDougall
KZA wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:39 pm TSP if you flip town I won't be mad because yeeting TSP is always funny
be funny if it was just his way of getting off the ride

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:22 pm
by Creature
KZA wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:39 pm TSP if you flip town I won't be mad because yeeting TSP is always funny
Would be a bit disappointed because I thought the game would finally be over.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:25 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I very nearly snap conceded as soon as I subbed in but I just subbed into a game with a near unachievable win condition where I outed nearly immediately (which I maintain was almost reasonable) and I didn’t want to get into a habit. I think I could have dragged this out a few more days but it’d be miserable and I just don’t want to put in the work for what is an inevitable loss

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:31 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:25 pm I very nearly snap conceded as soon as I subbed in but I just subbed into a game with a near unachievable win condition where I outed nearly immediately (which I maintain was almost reasonable) and I didn’t want to get into a habit. I think I could have dragged this out a few more days but it’d be miserable and I just don’t want to put in the work for what is an inevitable loss
fair enough too!

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:32 pm
by Gira
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:25 pm I very nearly snap conceded as soon as I subbed in but I just subbed into a game with a near unachievable win condition where I outed nearly immediately (which I maintain was almost reasonable) and I didn’t want to get into a habit. I think I could have dragged this out a few more days but it’d be miserable and I just don’t want to put in the work for what is an inevitable loss
understandable tbh

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:38 pm
by MacDougall
@JaggedJimmyJay close this sumbitch down

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:43 pm
by Gavial
Yeah so I was gonna make awards and whatever stuff for this game.
Like Banners.
But after I realized on how town sided this setup is I decided not to but I will do it in future games.

Anyway TonyStarkPrime has been executed! He was the Anti-Day Cop Traitor

Town Wins!

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:45 pm
by KZA
teamwork makes the dream work

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm
by MacDougall
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:43 pm Yeah so I was gonna make awards and whatever stuff for this game.
Like Banners.
But after I realized on how town sided this setup is I decided not to but I will do it in future games.

Anyway TonyStarkPrime has been executed! He was the Anti-Day Cop Traitor

Town Wins!
I'm not entirely sure it's that townsided honestly. How would the game have gone if say 112, Mac, Marmot, Sparky were the traitors?

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm
by MacDougall
KZA wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:45 pm teamwork makes the dream work
you did it kza

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:48 pm
by MacDougall
@MissSparkles the game is over you can stop tunneling me now.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:51 pm
by Gavial
I don’t have meme creator but.


Vote Scum (Blue) (-) Tunnel Mac (Red)

**Sweating**

Tunnel Mac!

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:52 pm
by Gavial
KZA wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:45 pm teamwork makes the dream work
Damn Right!

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:53 pm
by Gavial
Still should have added an extra traitor though.
4 is too little I think.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:53 pm
by Gavial
Maybe also have it were Anti-Day Cop kills Day Cop upon death or something.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:43 pm Yeah so I was gonna make awards and whatever stuff for this game.
Like Banners.
But after I realized on how town sided this setup is I decided not to but I will do it in future games.

Anyway TonyStarkPrime has been executed! He was the Anti-Day Cop Traitor

Town Wins!
I'm not entirely sure it's that townsided honestly. How would the game have gone if say 112, Mac, Marmot, Sparky were the traitors?
if the setup has no roles it's pretty clearly townsided and even if the day cop is just an innocent child that removes any potential problems from the exile mechanic

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
i think nightless setups are very difficult to make work in general

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:55 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
if the mafia team had communication or at least knew each other's identities that might make it easier, and would make the exile mechanic more interesting

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:58 pm
by MacDougall
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:51 pm I don’t have meme creator but.


Vote Scum (Blue) (-) Tunnel Mac (Red)

**Sweating**

Tunnel Mac!
lol yes...

was there a spec/dead chat for this?

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:58 pm
by MacDougall
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:43 pm Yeah so I was gonna make awards and whatever stuff for this game.
Like Banners.
But after I realized on how town sided this setup is I decided not to but I will do it in future games.

Anyway TonyStarkPrime has been executed! He was the Anti-Day Cop Traitor

Town Wins!
I'm not entirely sure it's that townsided honestly. How would the game have gone if say 112, Mac, Marmot, Sparky were the traitors?
if the setup has no roles it's pretty clearly townsided and even if the day cop is just an innocent child that removes any potential problems from the exile mechanic
I think it was townsided but it looks more townsided than it really is because the town played pretty good

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:59 pm
by Gavial
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:58 pm
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:51 pm I don’t have meme creator but.


Vote Scum (Blue) (-) Tunnel Mac (Red)

**Sweating**

Tunnel Mac!
lol yes...

was there a spec/dead chat for this?
Yeah but I didn’t really add anyone to it.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:59 pm
by Gavial
Other then specs.
That didn’t really say much

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:59 pm
by MacDougall
alright then lol

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:00 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:43 pm Yeah so I was gonna make awards and whatever stuff for this game.
Like Banners.
But after I realized on how town sided this setup is I decided not to but I will do it in future games.

Anyway TonyStarkPrime has been executed! He was the Anti-Day Cop Traitor

Town Wins!
I'm not entirely sure it's that townsided honestly. How would the game have gone if say 112, Mac, Marmot, Sparky were the traitors?
if the setup has no roles it's pretty clearly townsided and even if the day cop is just an innocent child that removes any potential problems from the exile mechanic
I think it was townsided but it looks more townsided than it really is because the town played pretty good
yes this is true

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:01 pm
by Gavial
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:43 pm Yeah so I was gonna make awards and whatever stuff for this game.
Like Banners.
But after I realized on how town sided this setup is I decided not to but I will do it in future games.

Anyway TonyStarkPrime has been executed! He was the Anti-Day Cop Traitor

Town Wins!
I'm not entirely sure it's that townsided honestly. How would the game have gone if say 112, Mac, Marmot, Sparky were the traitors?
if the setup has no roles it's pretty clearly townsided and even if the day cop is just an innocent child that removes any potential problems from the exile mechanic
I think it was townsided but it looks more townsided than it really is because the town played pretty good
I wonder how things would have turned out if KGMurphy went to exile instead of 112.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:01 pm
by KZA
yeah the 2 lowest posters being traitors sort of took the sting out of this

Falcon was certainly trying some shit but got redchecked lmao

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:03 pm
by MacDougall
Poison wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:41 am Yo. I'll be ready to play in an hour.
My favourite post in this game

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:04 pm
by MacDougall
I wonder how this game would have gone as a mountainous setup lol.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:04 pm
by Poison
We win? Yryy

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:05 pm
by Poison
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:03 pm
Poison wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:41 am Yo. I'll be ready to play in an hour.
My favourite post in this game
:scared: :fist: :hug:

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:10 pm
by Long Con
Hey, that's great! Thank you, TSP!! :noble:

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:12 pm
by Gavial
Long Con wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:10 pm Hey, that's great! Thank you, TSP!! :noble:
IDK why but each time I see your PFP I think it’s a fuckin Avian.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:13 pm
by Long Con
Like... a bird-person or something?

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:20 pm
by Poison
Gavial wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:10 am Poison Died, they were Uninformed Backup Cop it is now Exile phase and KZA has returned!
Holy sh*t

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:27 pm
by Gira
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:04 pm I wonder how this game would have gone as a mountainous setup lol.
close to balanced by EV, but in practice mafiascum has run 8:4 nightless vanilla with an EV of 33% 8 times and town won 7 of them. in practice town tends to outperform EV on nightless setups b/c when someone is obvtown they just never get killed

i do think having the traitors minimally know each other's identities would be an improvement

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:28 pm
by Gira
wrote in practice twice lol whoops

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:33 pm
by Creature
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:25 pm I very nearly snap conceded as soon as I subbed in but I just subbed into a game with a near unachievable win condition where I outed nearly immediately (which I maintain was almost reasonable) and I didn’t want to get into a habit. I think I could have dragged this out a few more days but it’d be miserable and I just don’t want to put in the work for what is an inevitable loss
Fuck for sake wished we didn't lynch Poison over TSP now.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:49 pm
by Marmot
Oh hey we did it!!! Great job everyone.


Thanks for putting up with the fake red check KZA. I do think that gambit took the wind out of the traitor's sails a little bit.

Re: Traitors for Exile

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:52 pm
by Gavial
Long Con wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:13 pm Like... a bird-person or something?
Exactly!
With Flames!