The Syndicate

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:21 pm Me too!

At last we agree on something.

I still maintain that nova’s first post is a decent town look for him.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:54 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:52 pm @Sloonei You here?

What’s up bae?

I was rereading some stuff, and Juliets ISO of me had a quote that I found interesting,

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:40 am Talk to me about Mongoose. We both have her as red. Bussing, mac?

I was trying here to get Mac to talk to me about Mongoose 'cause we were apparently both scum-reading here while going at it. I don't remember him responding to this unless I missed it,

I digged into his ISO and I'm frankly not liking the development of his read on Mongoose,

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:40 pm ColinIsCool - sus
dunya - good
juliets - good
Lunalee - good
M Plus 7 - undeserved of any opinion
Mongoose - sus
novaselinenever - dumb but good
Sloonei - good

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:45 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:38 pm Lunalee = Locktown
Juliets = Locktown
Mongoose = Locktown

Why is mongoose lock town?

Mongoose was already pretty well locktown but she just happily and easily contributed to town clearing Lunalee.

That last post has me confused out of my mind with that "already confused".

This excludes his return to the thread after N2 when Mongoose suddenly became confirmed scum and the safest lynch after being locked Town.

This is making me reconsider the Llama, but it doesn't make sense lol.

That original “sus” read came on Night 1. Then all of Day 2 happened and he apparently progressed to a town read, then a lock town read. I don’t find it unbelievable progression, but maybe [mention]MacDougall[/mention] can explain it for us anyway.

Lol looks like he dropped her when he started to tunnel me

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:12 pm Lol looks like he dropped her when he started to tunnel me

I’m fine with that again. He seemed to believe in the trustability of anyone who had a hand in confirming Luna yesterday. Mongoose briefly became “locktown” because of that, and you and I entered his tunnel vision because we, allegedly, resisted.

I think if Mac is scum he holds on to that tunnel vision and tries to get you lynched today.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:49 pm I'm in the weeds here. Sloonei is being all civvy and shit and Nova is still trolling me. I've felt kinda ok about Mongoose all game and both Goose and Llama haven't attacked me so I haven't really shined a light there ... Llama was M Plus?

This is another that is a little bit weird.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:14 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:12 pm Lol looks like he dropped her when he started to tunnel me

I’m fine with that again. He seemed to believe in the trustability of anyone who had a hand in confirming Luna yesterday. Mongoose briefly became “locktown” because of that, and you and I entered his tunnel vision because we, allegedly, resisted.

I think if Mac is scum he holds on to that tunnel vision and tries to get you lynched today.

Hmm fair point. He'd get a kick out of it probably lol

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] i ain’t gonna sit here and defend you all day, son.

I'll reread Llama.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:01 pm I still maintain that nova’s first post is a decent town look for him.

You were the first person to react to it as well

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:09 pm That original “sus” read came on Night 1. Then all of Day 2 happened and he apparently progressed to a town read, then a lock town read. I don’t find it unbelievable progression, but maybe @MacDougall can explain it for us anyway.

It was in the past. I don't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:49 pm I'm in the weeds here. Sloonei is being all civvy and shit and Nova is still trolling me. I've felt kinda ok about Mongoose all game and both Goose and Llama haven't attacked me so I haven't really shined a light there ... Llama was M Plus?

This is another that is a little bit weird.

I did feel kinda ok about Mongoose all game. All game being "the span of the game that I can remember".

If I was scum and Mongoose is a civ I do exactly what I did. If she is scum and Nova is a civ I most definitely push for Nova today and win today. I would have backed myself to have been able to convince everyone to lynch you, even Sloonei who at some stage was tinfoiling you. The only way what I've done is on scum meta is if the Goose is a civ.

Yeah I’m too sure that you are both civ to budge at this stage. Good game if one of you has been lying.

Or if you have been lol. I wasn't lying about that town/scum read of everyone, you being bad is a scenario I'd rather not think about

Well there you have it. He was one of the longest-running patrons of Paddy's, and now he's gone. This damned bar is empty in the majority of its scenes, so how the hell can they afford to keep it open without their only reliable customer left? JaggedJimmyJay is already dead.

Mongoose was lynched. She was:

Nice. Llama tomorrow, I think.

Noice.

Linki - I think?

This was a pretty weird MyLo. Almost everything really happened during the previous night lol

Or a few hours in.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:31 pm Noice.

Linki - I think?

Barring some wild new developments or objections.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:36 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:31 pm Noice.

Linki - I think?

Barring some wild new developments or objections.

I guess I'll stop posting

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:36 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:31 pm Noice.

Linki - I think?

Barring some wild new developments or objections.

I guess I'll stop posting

You got something to hide?

We had Mongoose on D2 as a suspect, and she completely slipped. She was also in the PoE that Juliets, Dunya and I came up with N1.

Weird stuff

Linki - lol no

Mongoose's partner knew she was a goner today, or at least greatly anticipated it. There wasn't a speck of resistance to that lynch. The only slight concern I had today was that we were completely off about her and today's lynch was losing us the game, hence the quiet thread down the stretch. But as that was not the case, it seems the quiet on their part was motivated more by an impulse not to give us any more of a trail than we might already have.

Nothing about this is at all incompatible with a Llama/Mongoose pairing, as has been assumed for a while now. But for the sake of being thorough, it may be worth it to go over Mongoose's posts one more time, and maybe some interactions from Day 3. But there's another game that deserves my attention (and nova's. and Mac's) right now.

I still see llama and mongoose conspiring to sweep the No Lynch under the rug first thing on Day 2, which served more than anything to remove her from the line of fire.

I'll reread during the night. I've actually spent more time than I anticipated checking this thread and rereading during a pretty busy day which is leaving me high and dry in the other game lol.

Oh my gosh you guys I just got home from work, what a brutal day. I see nova above saying he's going to re-read tonight so I guess the games not over. I'll catch up with who we lynched and whats going on.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:43 pm Oh my gosh you guys I just got home from work, what a brutal day. I see nova above saying he's going to re-read tonight so I guess the games not over. I'll catch up with who we lynched and whats going on.

The day concluded exactly as expected.

Oh yay I see Mongoose was bad! Thanks to those of you who kept bringing her up and pushing her. She had me completely fooled until toward the end.

I really don't know what to reread. Like I can not fathom Sloonei being bad, I don't want to even think about it lol.

I'm looking through Mac, and from the plan he formulated the majority of things looks good. I was iffy with his read progression on Mongoose but like he said scum!mac doesn't do that, and I think it was mostly associated with a pretty weak ping on Mongoose early and then jumping on me. That might have waned his suspicions there. I don't like how he was sold on it being me and Sloonei immediately after the D2 flip but he reads genuine in our interactions during that period and his reaction to being overwhelmed is a good point in his favor. I think those interactions are what lead to everything that followed, this lynch and us finding each other eventually. The way he reaches Llama/Mongoose is also genuine, and he seemed intent into solving the game prior to that and was working towards that. He listened to me and Sloonei. A baddie Mac doesn't need to reach that conclusion, and would have kept his sight onto me.

I'll be voting Llama as soon as the sun rises.

In many ways I think that not nailing scum earlier in this type of format (small games small teams) actually ends up making it easier to win because you can solve the entire team at the same time. It's a format that I intend to bus/distance like crazy in future.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:04 pm In many ways I think that not nailing scum earlier in this type of format (small games small teams) actually ends up making it easier to win because you can solve the entire team at the same time. It's a format that I intend to bus/distance like crazy in future.

Kind of agree, assuming we're right about llama. I can recall a couple past games that were approximately this size where we lynched one baddie Day 1 and then had next to nothing to go off the rest of the game and lost.

There's been a lot of those lately.

Guys, I am off to work soon again and today is going to be just like yesterday. I probably won't get home until after night ends and I am dead. I quit nova's ISO on mid to late page 5 of his ISO if someone wants to pick it up. There are only 4 more pages to go. I am really convinced though it's llama. He is a tricky player and I think he pulled the wool over our eyes early in his game that stayed with us for awhile, so if I were alive tomorrow I would vote for him, but I'll be deaded over the course of this night. It's been (mostly) fun playing with you all.

Thanks juliets. We don’t win this thing without you. Assuming we are about to win this thing, I mean.

Sorry about Day 1.

jules been lit this game. absolute hashtags

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:31 pm Nice. Llama tomorrow, I think.

Let's not, though.

Sloonei, I urge you to consider the possibility that Nova is Mongoose's teammate. I stand by my ISO of their interactions that they look totally compatible. And I don't think I am wrong about you, Mac, or juliets.

Sup Llama? Been waiting for you to show up

Who are you killing tonight?

thellama73 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:12 pm Sloonei, I urge you to consider the possibility that Nova is Mongoose's teammate. I stand by my ISO of their interactions that they look totally compatible. And I don't think I am wrong about you, Mac, or juliets.

I intend to look into this during the day phase. But right now I simply read nova and mac too strongly as civilians. Even if I had no evidence suggesting that you are bad, my POE would be whittled down to you. That I was able to paint a picture of you and mongoose as a scum pairing with no trouble at all is just an extra layer of icing on the cake.

I don’t say this to discourage you if you are indeed town, I’m just saying that’s where we’re at right now. This game makes the mosr sense to me if you are bad. I encourage you to convince me otherwise.

thellama73 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:12 pm Sloonei, I urge you to consider the possibility that Nova is Mongoose's teammate. I stand by my ISO of their interactions that they look totally compatible. And I don't think I am wrong about you, Mac, or juliets.

She's mod-confirmed. It ain't about "I don't think", unless you believe there's a 2-shot tracker that hasn't claimed

[mention]thellama73[/mention] If I'm not bad, who'd be your next pick and why?