The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:39 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:34 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:33 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:31 pm Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?

Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.

Robyn.

Well then I hope people will take a leap of faith with me and not vote zenon. She is smack dab in her civ meta.

Tell me what you know of Zenon's "civ meta."

Oh God. You know I play on feels.

Shes genuine. She's uber frustrated and not in a whiny, I'm caught fake way. She's determined and a bit scattered. When she's bad, she has her thoughts more collected and while she still post A LOT there more of a method to her madness that is not present here.

And how do you know it?

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:39 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:34 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:33 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:31 pm Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?

Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.

Robyn.

Well then I hope people will take a leap of faith with me and not vote zenon. She is smack dab in her civ meta.

Tell me what you know of Zenon's "civ meta."

Oh God. You know I play on feels.

Shes genuine. She's uber frustrated and not in a whiny, I'm caught fake way. She's determined and a bit scattered. When she's bad, she has her thoughts more collected and while she still post A LOT there more of a method to her madness that is not present here.

You're full of shit Kate, and you know it. I know it.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Mafia team is Zenon and robyn. Let's move this along please.

@DrWilgy

@falcon45ca

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 pm And how do you know it?

Damn you haven't played with me in a long time have you?

1. Wolf Kate would not be this in your face.
2. I'm right.
3. I know zenon way better than you do, I'm sure of that.
4. I'm right.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:47 pm @DrWilgy

@falcon45ca

Both of these players will know I'm civ.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 pm And how do you know it?

Damn you haven't played with me in a long time have you?

1. Wolf Kate would not be this in your face.
2. I'm right.
3. I know zenon way better than you do, I'm sure of that.
4. I'm right.

What's your opinion on Seanzie?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 pm And how do you know it?

Damn you haven't played with me in a long time have you?

1. Wolf Kate would not be this in your face.
2. I'm right.
3. I know zenon way better than you do, I'm sure of that.
4. I'm right.

What's your opinion on Seanzie?

Other than he's dead?

I think he is probably the best civ on the site.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 pm And how do you know it?

Damn you haven't played with me in a long time have you?

1. Wolf Kate would not be this in your face.
2. I'm right.
3. I know zenon way better than you do, I'm sure of that.
4. I'm right.

What's your opinion on Seanzie?

Other than he's dead?

I think he is probably the best civ on the site.

Agreed. You passed the first test.

Second test: Why did Zenon vote Rem instead of me?

That's wild. Zenon could have voted me, killed me (a suspect) and still had Rem alive. Zenon voted Rem. Killed Rem.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:47 pm @DrWilgy

@falcon45ca

Both of these players will know I'm civ.

You know I love you.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:57 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 pm And how do you know it?

Damn you haven't played with me in a long time have you?

1. Wolf Kate would not be this in your face.
2. I'm right.
3. I know zenon way better than you do, I'm sure of that.
4. I'm right.

What's your opinion on Seanzie?

Other than he's dead?

I think he is probably the best civ on the site.

Agreed. You passed the first test.

Second test: Why did Zenon vote Rem instead of me?

That's wild. Zenon could have voted me, killed me (a suspect) and still had Rem alive. Zenon voted Rem. Killed Rem.

I don't know that. You'd have to ask zenon. That hasn't been addressed yet?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:11 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:47 pm @DrWilgy

@falcon45ca

Both of these players will know I'm civ.

You know I love you.

I know. And I knew you were testing me

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:14 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:11 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:47 pm @DrWilgy

@falcon45ca

Both of these players will know I'm civ.

You know I love you.

I know. And I knew you were testing me

And I love you too!

I just noticed my post are edit-able. Why is that? Is everyone's? I won't edit of course, but just noticed that *shrug*

Please lynch robyn (Kate) and Zenon.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 6:02 pm @Zenon I read you. Extremely clearly civ zenon. Come back I'll mason with you sugarpop.

Imma sheep zenon.
[VOTE: guillotine] aubergine

Hail Mary from Kate to save Zenon.

End this game please.

If you are a a civilian, pick a side. I don't care which. Don't split the vote. That's how mafia wins.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:39 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:34 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:33 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:31 pm Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.

If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?

Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.

Robyn.

Well then I hope people will take a leap of faith with me and not vote zenon. She is smack dab in her civ meta.

Tell me what you know of Zenon's "civ meta."

Oh God. You know I play on feels.

Shes genuine. She's uber frustrated and not in a whiny, I'm caught fake way. She's determined and a bit scattered. When she's bad, she has her thoughts more collected and while she still post A LOT there more of a method to her madness that is not present here.

Have you caught up?

I thought i was gonna have more time to play today but i didnt for personal reasons and im exhausted, so i will continue tomorrow.

At first glance, i dont think Kate is partnered with Zenon for the way she is defending her, i have to believe that a wolf would not out to defend the other and would rather bus to go deep.

This is a generalized statement about wolf tactics as i dont know Kate's meta.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:22 pm Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?




Yeah, sometimes it is that easy

Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...

Rand is anti town. I will never let a vote rand if I can help it. Ever.

Rather have a 100% chance of whatever kill it is

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:47 pm Mafia team is Zenon and robyn. Let's move this along please.

Lmfao

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 pm And how do you know it?

Damn you haven't played with me in a long time have you?

1. Wolf Kate would not be this in your face.
2. I'm right.
3. I know zenon way better than you do, I'm sure of that.
4. I'm right.

Your the only person in this game besides Rem that has a good read on me lol

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:13 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:57 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:45 pm And how do you know it?

Damn you haven't played with me in a long time have you?

1. Wolf Kate would not be this in your face.
2. I'm right.
3. I know zenon way better than you do, I'm sure of that.
4. I'm right.

What's your opinion on Seanzie?

Other than he's dead?

I think he is probably the best civ on the site.

Agreed. You passed the first test.

Second test: Why did Zenon vote Rem instead of me?

That's wild. Zenon could have voted me, killed me (a suspect) and still had Rem alive. Zenon voted Rem. Killed Rem.

I don't know that. You'd have to ask zenon. That hasn't been addressed yet?

It has been

Vote: Zenon

Peace

Kill Guillo Epi or Wilgy

It'll be exelo but that's the PoE

I'm out

Kate is lock town

Also thanks Guillo for reminding me how fucking fire my reads are

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:14 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:02 am reads:

zenon

rest

yeah thats right bitch. ion give a fuck. zenon is the only one i trust

i could have been pocketed by epi and/or wilgy. i wouldnt bet the game on my townreads on them, not feeling confident. i thought pyxxy as wolf would be posting more but this might be a dumb read. i have no clue what to think of sean it felt to me like he snorts a line before every post he makes

so my legacy if im the d1 chop is to sheep zenon tomorrow. if she dies n1 - tough luck. but its your guys's problem, not mine

good luck you all, and i do appreciate that this has been a generally more active game compared to most games we have. even if we mischop some villagers i dont feel like we're doomed, i feel like the remaining townies might be able to solve it, plenty of content itt. godspeed

Alright so Tutuu is lock town for this post and I'm moving on lol.

This is normal town Tutuu the town Tutuu I love to play with. This is what I want. Fuck.

Tier of her own

Rem

Town lock

Zenon
Cape
Tutuu

Sheep this I'm rarely wrong on more than one lock town read.

I'm so fucking goated

Literally perfect reads again

Town hunter extraordinaire

I honestly dunno when it happened when I became so useless as a civ and in general at mafia again.

Been caught D1 my last 2 wolf Rands.

Been unable as town to convince people to trust my reads and the last several games on MU I've been realizing town wins when I'm dead and loses when I'm alive. I dunno what changed and I dunno why i can't fix it but I do know that I can't fix it I've tried.

I shouldn't kill myself this close to exelo though I suppose... but I feel like I need to die

Bleh

Vote: Guillo

It might be too late to save this game. I'm afraid the only ones paying attention are me (robyn) and you and the wolves. And sean probably was, but they killed him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:33 pm Please lynch robyn (Kate) and Zenon.

Why would you say this? You honestly think I'd come on here and just openly defend a teammate? I almost hope you're bad. It's a better result than someone I respect as much as you thinking I'd play like that.

Ok so I'm gonna try to go back to bed, but I'm going to say that in my estimation if zenon or epi go over today it's game over.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:00 am It might be too late to save this game. I'm afraid the only ones paying attention are me (robyn) and you and the wolves. And sean probably was, but they killed him.

Nah we still gonna win

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:41 am Ok so I'm gonna try to go back to bed, but I'm going to say that in my estimation if zenon or epi go over today it's game over.

Nah we still gonna win

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:20 am Kill Guillo Epi or Wilgy

It'll be exelo but that's the PoE

I'm out

Kate is lock town

I don't think it's Epi.

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:11 am zenon often townreads me prematurely, that's nai but it's worrying from any other player

NAI, meaning she does it as town and scum, ok.

I need to check later who else was townreading her prematurely.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:51 am dad canceled rip, can't say that i'm too surprised

Oh I had missed this, now I feel like a dick for pressuring her for lack of content.

I'm sorry @robyn

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:22 pm Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red

is it really that easy sometimes?

Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?




Yeah, sometimes it is that easy

Rand is anti town

Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...

Rand is anti town. I will never let a vote rand if I can help it. Ever.

I disagree with this view very much.

You threw your own top town over because of this thinking then decided to blame everyone else. I think your flawed view on ties and how to handle a perceived TvT game state here is exactly what's caused this aggravating game state we are in now. I think, in a TvT game state, if one should try to rationalize the arguments made for each (as it's impossible for everyone involved to be wolf), and then make the best vote even if it results in a tie. That will always result in a higher chance for a W flip.

I think I'd be more keen to just try trusting your Kate read if it wasn't for the blaming of others and the AtE you expressed in response into the EoD which really reminds me of your gameplay in Hot Fuzz. There's a big difference between 'I panic'd and impulsively voted, my bad' and the AtE and blame you expressed going into this phase.

Also, I don't want this to come across as a criticism on you, rather my view on EoD and following. I somewhat struggled writing this one out as you are my friend and I do want to think you are town, acking that I think you are town, I can see this view of yours being genuine. I do not wish to bash/criticize your genuine view or emotion related. I don't think I'd make this argument in the first place if I didn't think it was needed for expressing my thoughts on this game state and where I'm at.

I hope that blurb above makes sense.

I'm very hesitant to trust Kate now and I'm not very keen on Zenon's read supporting is the tldr and the above is what's adding to that feeling.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:29 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:20 am Kill Guillo Epi or Wilgy

It'll be exelo but that's the PoE

I'm out

Kate is lock town

I don't think it's Epi.

y tho