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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:20 pm
by Alison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:36 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:48 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:43 pm I’m not finding one I don’t care that much
Finding one is probably in your town meta, please.
No it’s not
Please could you just like very briefly explain it?

I just want to know how likely I am to be misckearing her from this tbh.
Messing up wolf numbers, some vague mech mistakes, I think forgetting the identity of a partner once but I’m not too sure on that one
I think my favorite one was when two people died in the night with similar names, and one was my partner and one was a townie, and I pretended to misread the flips and think that my partner was the one that flipped V.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:20 pm
by Alison
Transcend wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:40 pm I crumble in stacked tables so I totally expected getting fucked on d1.

This the sad reality of being me.
Scummy post.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:22 pm
by Alison
I am caught up. Transcend has spent page after page nakedly AtEing when he came under pressure.

[v]Transcend[/v]

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:22 pm
by Alison
[VOTE: Transcend] aubergine

Syndicate and MU should standardize vote tag formatting so I don't keep mixing them up.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 pm
by alexa
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:20 pm
Transcend wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:40 pm I crumble in stacked tables so I totally expected getting fucked on d1.

This the sad reality of being me.
Scummy post.
yeah i was trying to probe him on that because i've literally been in a wolf chat with him where he said the table was stacked so he was fucked day one

..trying to figure out if he'd have the same thought as villager but i can't imagine it as much? i imagine v!him wouldn't be that conscious of getting MLed and more concerned on just nailing wolves

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:26 pm
by Alison
Strong town: alexa, Esooa, ilario, Lime Coke
Weak town: Wiml
Nulll: TSP
Upper POE: Nanook, EnderWiggin
Lower POE: MacDougall, Transcend

That's where I'm at.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:26 pm
by Esooa
why me?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:27 pm
by alexa
when did LC become strong town for you? i feel like i missed something between your earlier stance on him to that read?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:28 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:27 pm when did LC become strong town for you? i feel like i missed something between your earlier stance on him to that read?
The moment she realized I fucking sucked as wolf.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:29 pm
by Alison
Esooa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:26 pmwhy me?
I have largely agreed with the direction of your pushes and you went out of your way to make a twisty read to lock me town.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:29 pm
by Alison
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:27 pm when did LC become strong town for you? i feel like i missed something between your earlier stance on him to that read?
He hasn't outed yet and other people who know him think he's town. Same with ilario.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:32 pm
by alexa
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:29 pm
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:27 pm when did LC become strong town for you? i feel like i missed something between your earlier stance on him to that read?
He hasn't outed yet and other people who know him think he's town. Same with ilario.
lol fair

alright i'm going to bed (aka to spend the rest of the night with my gf), i have the same top 5 towns as you with our names swapped which makes me mildly worried just because i know as scum i go out of my way to out the same reads as villagers to make it seem like im town but i think i can see where you're coming from for the most part

history says my bottom 5 POE hits 1 wolf andd my top 5 POE hits 1 but im hoping this time is the good time and the bottom 5 is 2

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:33 pm
by alexa
top 5 --> [ilario, Lime Coke, Wiml, Esooa, Alison]
bottom 5 --> [Ender, Mac, TSP, Nanook, Transcend]

if that wasn't obv

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:53 pm
by Alison
Oh, so when I take a nap the thread inflates by 20 pages. But when I'm caught up nobody wants to post. I see.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:01 pm
by Lime Coke
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:53 pm Oh, so when I take a nap the thread inflates by 20 pages. But when I'm caught up nobody wants to post. I see.
Hi....👀

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:06 pm
by Alison
Hi. What is your solve?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:11 pm
by Lime Coke
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:06 pm Hi. What is your solve?
Transcend is 1, and the other is either Nanook or maybe TSP?

I don't know the stuff with Mac. Is Mac capable of making that many team solves at once as mafia?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:12 pm
by Lime Coke
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:55 am if wiml is town then esooa/Alison/ilario/transcend contain wolves with ilario/esooa or ilario/Alison or transcend/Alison being the team

if Alison is town its wiml/transcend with esooa as swing

if transcend is town it's just wiml/ilario

if ilario is town wiml is always a wolf

if esooa is town it's wiml/transcend with Alison as swing
I'm talking this type of post, is there a world where Mac makes this post as mafia?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:19 pm
by Alison
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:55 am if wiml is town then esooa/Alison/ilario/transcend contain wolves with ilario/esooa or ilario/Alison or transcend/Alison being the team

if Alison is town its wiml/transcend with esooa as swing

if transcend is town it's just wiml/ilario

if ilario is town wiml is always a wolf

if esooa is town it's wiml/transcend with Alison as swing
I'm talking this type of post, is there a world where Mac makes this post as mafia?
Yes, he obviously can. This kind of post is extremely easy to make as mafia, I don't know why you felt it was unfakeable.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:20 pm
by Alison
Transcend + Nanook is a fine solve. I'm on Transcend + Mac myself. TSP is a question mark. I think he's slightly in town meta but I struggle to read him because of his cryptic style of play and general inactivity.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:23 pm
by Lime Coke
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:55 am if wiml is town then esooa/Alison/ilario/transcend contain wolves with ilario/esooa or ilario/Alison or transcend/Alison being the team

if Alison is town its wiml/transcend with esooa as swing

if transcend is town it's just wiml/ilario

if ilario is town wiml is always a wolf

if esooa is town it's wiml/transcend with Alison as swing
I'm talking this type of post, is there a world where Mac makes this post as mafia?
Yes, he obviously can. This kind of post is extremely easy to make as mafia, I don't know why you felt it was unfakeable.
Just felt like an extremely intricate post that would be hard to make as mafia.

Then again I guess I have a lot to learn?

If you've seen him do this before then I believe you. Not the first time I've incorrectly townread someone for 1 singular reason.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:35 pm
by Alison
It's not that intricate and it's not hard to fake as mafia. Just spew words on the page, vaguely logical, and there you go.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:35 pm
by Alison
I'm pretty sure you saw me churn out posts that were very similar in terms of intricacy/style in Guillo's Roles.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:37 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:19 pm Always know, that wherever you are, Ender will be there.
Oh god. LC stop making me sound like a stalker
Theres no shame in being a stalker

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Unless it's the creepy kind

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 pm
by Transcend
Esooa is the Transcend whisperer

Prob sheep her idk

I'll be fully available in an hour

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:06 pm Thats a good derp clear it makes her three quarters clear
Suspicious Nanook post.

I believe he has been fairly adamant about not clearing me for stupid shit multiple times in the past.
Three quarters clear is 75% town

In other words, rand

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:39 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Which yes I'm aware isn't actually rand, but I forgot there were 11 and not 9 at the time

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:40 pm
by EnderWiggin
Transcend wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 pm Esooa is the Transcend whisperer

Prob sheep her idk

I'll be fully available in an hour
Bad defense.

But that being said I think Mac is wolf which makes you townier.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:44 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:39 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:37 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:19 pm Mac is honestly playing incredibly scummy. His reads are pure nonsense and he's just producing as many of them as possible until people get off his back. He is not solving the game or approaching it from a townie point of view and he's not fishing for hard-to-replicate tells the way he does as town. It's actually ridiculous.
Are we allowed to vote him yet?
I have argued before that it is best to give certain players a day pass because it is simply too disastrous for the game if they are town. You can keep them in your POE and hunt for your partners while giving them the chance to clear themselves by producing pelts (and of course, if they are wolves and produce pelts, you should encourage them to out all their teammates for you). I would say Mac is one of those players.
maybe it's my own ego but i have always been kind of "mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" on this philosophy
mostly because i trust myself to solve the game more than i trust players who are useful if not mischopped

there's been times i've mischopped a player terribly d1 but we still won as town and got a lot of useful info from it

there's never been a time i've been like "oh no if we didn't ML X day one we would've won"

i've only been playing FM for a year though
This is the correct approach

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 pm
by MacDougall
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:33 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:34 am
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:33 am
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:31 am poe at present is like those two plus transcend plus fucking nanook the don i can't read for poopoopeepee
plus ender
forgot your partner huh
I honestly think he intentionally threw Ender in just to make you say that. It's fake spew.
tunneling isn't healthy fambam

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 pm
by EnderWiggin
Well I'm voting him now anyway so.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:44 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:33 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:34 am
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:33 am
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:31 am poe at present is like those two plus transcend plus fucking nanook the don i can't read for poopoopeepee
plus ender
forgot your partner huh
I honestly think he intentionally threw Ender in just to make you say that. It's fake spew.
tunneling isn't healthy fambam
It's Alison's m.o.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:44 pm
by MacDougall
Esooa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:42 pm Honestly I wouldn't mind a Mac chop this day phase

Not saying I think he's wolfy I mean holistically I think it'd be fine to exe him if he was my top wolf read
Weird post. You score a 0.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:45 pm
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 pm Well I'm voting him now anyway so.
why? I am pretty obvious town. Alison is just trying to prove she can get a mac pelt. She desperate.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:46 pm
by MacDougall
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:45 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:44 pm My vote will accept swapping to Mac btw
same tbh
yo wot y'all need jesus

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:47 pm
by MacDougall
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:45 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:47 am I want to kill transcend and wiml in any order d1 and d2 personally
This is really weird given your previous stated read on Transcend.

Also I note the wagons in the poll proving you were lying about Transcend's chances of surviving D1.
yeah your tunneling made it so you couldn't see what was going on around u

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:48 pm
by MacDougall
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:52 pm From a scumminess perspective I think Mac and Transcend feel like they are trying to outdo each other with regards to how scummy they can be. I would be fine with either if we nixed the day pass angle.
ok i don't care if you're wrong on me cuz I agree with your transcend read so as long as you keep the energy up there im happy

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:49 pm
by MacDougall
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:54 pm Wiml still a good target. Was misrepresenting me and implying he had good read on me until I called bullshit
my scumteam is literally wiml/transcend who is my partner exactly?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:50 pm
by Alison
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:48 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:52 pm From a scumminess perspective I think Mac and Transcend feel like they are trying to outdo each other with regards to how scummy they can be. I would be fine with either if we nixed the day pass angle.
ok i don't care if you're wrong on me cuz I agree with your transcend read so as long as you keep the energy up there im happy
Sounds good. Vote Transcend with me.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:51 pm
by MacDougall
I am voting transcend and will continue to until this day ends. If you think I bus my only other partner in 9v2 mountainous then good for you.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:51 pm
by MacDougall
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:50 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:48 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:52 pm From a scumminess perspective I think Mac and Transcend feel like they are trying to outdo each other with regards to how scummy they can be. I would be fine with either if we nixed the day pass angle.
ok i don't care if you're wrong on me cuz I agree with your transcend read so as long as you keep the energy up there im happy
Sounds good. Vote Transcend with me.
My vote has been on transcend for about 13 hrs

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:52 pm
by Alison
Transcend
5
33%
Voters: Lime Coke, ilario, MacDougall, alexa, Alison

LC, ilario, alexa are 3 of my top town. I know I'm town.

Mac is a sketchy vote on there but frankly if he's scum I think he's most likely partnered with Transcend anyway, and if he's town and we both think Transcend is obvious mafia then Transcend is probably just mafia.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:52 pm
by Alison
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:51 pm I am voting transcend and will continue to until this day ends. If you think I bus my only other partner in 9v2 mountainous then good for you.
Alright I'll give you some space if Transcend flips red.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:53 pm
by MacDougall
look at me bussing my partner in 9v2 mountainous when Alison thinks we're partners. What incredibly pro wolf tactics I am deploying. I am sure to win socky.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:53 pm
by Alison
@MacDougall Your read on Ender is?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:53 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:45 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 pm Well I'm voting him now anyway so.
why? I am pretty obvious town. Alison is just trying to prove she can get a mac pelt. She desperate.
I do like people calling themselves obvious town.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:53 pm
by MacDougall
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:51 pm I am voting transcend and will continue to until this day ends. If you think I bus my only other partner in 9v2 mountainous then good for you.
Alright I'll give you some space if Transcend flips red.
your scumread on me is largely predicated on me being partners with him so I would expect significant space if he flips green also

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:54 pm
by MacDougall
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:53 pm @MacDougall Your read on Ender is?
at present i have him about on par with wiml as wolf 2

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:54 pm
by EnderWiggin
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:49 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:54 pm Wiml still a good target. Was misrepresenting me and implying he had good read on me until I called bullshit
my scumteam is literally wiml/transcend who is my partner exactly?
Alison. :^)