Beelzebub The Benign scum win

[TonyStarkPrime]

Sloonei was wrong last time we did this. Nice work Sloonei.

[BoKnows]

Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve

You shouldn't have to insist that you're solving the game. We can see if people are trying to solve the game or not.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve

You shouldn't have to insist that you're solving the game. We can see if people are trying to solve the game or not.

Yeah but the insistence demonstrates something about mindset

[BoKnows]

Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve

You shouldn't have to insist that you're solving the game. We can see if people are trying to solve the game or not.

Yeah but the insistence demonstrates something about mindset

What does it demonstrate?

[TonyStarkPrime]

He’s disconnected with reality

[TonyStarkPrime]

That’s I think townie a bit

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m personally not the most connected to reality myself

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think I’m almost to the point where I can confidently say that if urist is town he’s the wrong one and not me

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m personally not the most connected to reality myself

I think I’m almost to the point where I can confidently say that if urist is town he’s the wrong one and not me

These might need to be taken together tbh

[BoKnows]

I’m personally not the most connected to reality myself

This is how I feel about Gavial

[TonyStarkPrime]

I have read maybe 12 gav posts all game

[Seanzie]

Ehh, I don't know if we can trust Falcon or Urist, or Dunya for that matter, but idk if I want to yeet in there if they have powers that could really help town. TSP hasn't done anything though.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

true that makes me town (I’d venture you should know this)

No, it makes you unreadable, and possibly points to scum fatigue after your marathon performance in Fallout, or maybe just deliberately trying to look nothing like you did in Fallout.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think I’m readably town in this game but aside from that I’m way out of my scum meta in any case

[TonyStarkPrime]

Enough about me do something

[Urist]

I think I’m almost to the point where I can confidently say that if urist is town he’s the wrong one and not me

Rude

[Urist]

Where do our reads differ tsp? What's your solve?

[Samusamu]

Trying to resolve in {falcon, gav} seems like a way to lose mafia

Why? I think that a gavial-urist town lock core is a strong and powerful card.

You aren’t locking gav as town if you say that

It is true. Dunya gets her wincon if she's talked to half the remaining players by the end of game.


Did gavial give any details like this? No. Didn't mention the cost of his "red check" either, I had to ask. He's not been given a red check on me, it's impossible.


I am freely giving this info to the town. Why do I do this if I'm Maf? Think about it, I've been breadcrumbing my contact with dunya since it started.

U said u were vt now u are saying that you are freely giving the info to the town.

A town does no freely give anything, just share what he knows.

Are u a 3p

So u still are talking with dunya? Well what was the cost of the shoot of marmot?

I don't know what Marmot's cost was, I only know what my cost was. I asked her a question earlier today, but she hasn't responded.


Freely giving & sharing what I know is the same thing FYI

What more u know about the other players who have been in a deal with dunya?

Nothing really, just that she talked to Marmot & one of Urist/TSP. She wouldn't tell me who. She said she had it on good authority that I was gonna be shot soon, and not to reveal my convo with her as it would speed up my death.

It may seem like a ploy to keep you from talking.

It would be nice to check if you are going to die shot basically we would still be able to lynch and seize the day, if not it is still worth checking if your testimony is genuine, if your flip is green, with this you have handed us gavial and probably tsp on a platter since I have already explained urist I have him at 99% townlock.

And if you're red it's time to forget about this troll.

I also contemplate that dunya can lie to you, do you have any guarantee to say that he can't lie to you? I suppose that if dunya's condition is to make pacts with half of the living party, dunya will try to balance through his reads and his pacts both sides to reach the moment of having made pacts with half.

Do you know what happens if he achieves his goal? Does he win alone or does he continue the game?

Why not? A red check in falcon puts that lock to gavial

[Samusamu]

I think falcon might be my strongest town but if gav is a wolf I think falcon might be lock wolf so I guess gav is my strongest town

Xd

[Samusamu]

Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve

I townread doom, bk in day 2, now townlock urist ans also try thinking if esooa was really scummy.

But you can know it without reading all the game.

[Samusamu]

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[Gavial]

Someone who said it can’t be samu/urist why can’t it be samu/urist

They never do what they did.

[Gavial]

I think falcon might be my strongest town but if gav is a wolf I think falcon might be lock wolf so I guess gav is my strongest town

Xd

The fact he’s mentioning Falcon like this makes me wish there was a vote harder button.

[BoKnows]

the hammer temptation

[Samusamu]

the hammer temptation

Dale fuego

[Urist]

the hammer temptation

Hammer is at 5.

[Urist]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

Where do our reads differ tsp? What's your solve?

I think it has to be one of sean/bk almost in any world. I can't really read either of them though. Probably Sean?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Samu insisted he was trying to solve the game which I guess is towny but his solve is {one of falcon,gav} and {?} and this seems like not a solve

I townread doom, bk in day 2, now townlock urist ans also try thinking if esooa was really scummy.

But you can know it without reading all the game.

ftr I townread both doom AND esooa which is twice as good

[TonyStarkPrime]

Trying to resolve in {falcon, gav} seems like a way to lose mafia

Why? I think that a gavial-urist town lock core is a strong and powerful card.

You aren’t locking gav as town if you say that

U said u were vt now u are saying that you are freely giving the info to the town.

A town does no freely give anything, just share what he knows.

Are u a 3p

So u still are talking with dunya? Well what was the cost of the shoot of marmot?

I don't know what Marmot's cost was, I only know what my cost was. I asked her a question earlier today, but she hasn't responded.


Freely giving & sharing what I know is the same thing FYI

What more u know about the other players who have been in a deal with dunya?

Nothing really, just that she talked to Marmot & one of Urist/TSP. She wouldn't tell me who. She said she had it on good authority that I was gonna be shot soon, and not to reveal my convo with her as it would speed up my death.

It may seem like a ploy to keep you from talking.

It would be nice to check if you are going to die shot basically we would still be able to lynch and seize the day, if not it is still worth checking if your testimony is genuine, if your flip is green, with this you have handed us gavial and probably tsp on a platter since I have already explained urist I have him at 99% townlock.

And if you're red it's time to forget about this troll.

I also contemplate that dunya can lie to you, do you have any guarantee to say that he can't lie to you? I suppose that if dunya's condition is to make pacts with half of the living party, dunya will try to balance through his reads and his pacts both sides to reach the moment of having made pacts with half.

Do you know what happens if he achieves his goal? Does he win alone or does he continue the game?

Why not? A red check in falcon puts that lock to gavial

how do you figure

[TonyStarkPrime]

like it seems to me that falcon and gav very likely have the same alignment and you seem convinced that they have opposite alignments

[TonyStarkPrime]

tempted to start scumreading gav because I read two of his posts but I'm not letting myself do it

[TonyStarkPrime]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME put sloonei's iso in the host post

[TonyStarkPrime]

So the game is something like this. The middle group is only vaguely sorted.

Gavial

Samusamu
Doom

LC
Marmot
Hollowkatt
Boknows
Alison

Esooa
Tsp

Falcon
Urist

Dunia - literally a demon

JessieKruger - No posts, unsorted.

Seanzie

can eliminate Sean/bo

[TonyStarkPrime]

Pretty sure Hollowkatt/Esooa is a thing, and Hollowkatt just slipped. They probably planned to flip to me in wolf chat, and Hollowkatt forgot what order it went in.

ehhh

[TonyStarkPrime]

a thought just occurred to me:

there has to be a wolf with a sense of reality because jay died

[TonyStarkPrime]

which I think at this point means one of bo/urist

[Gavial]

I think falcon might be my strongest town but if gav is a wolf I think falcon might be lock wolf so I guess gav is my strongest town

And Falcon!Wolf?

[TonyStarkPrime]

falcon feels very town to me idk

[TonyStarkPrime]

where I'm at:
town
Gavail
Marmot
Sam

leans town
Doom
Esooa

everyone else is some flavor of POE or another, or I'm not paying attention

rule of five

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok at this point I think this is actually useful

[TonyStarkPrime]

time to call in a favor

[Gavial]

I think I’m readably town in this game but aside from that I’m way out of my scum meta in any case

So does Falcon.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Gavial wanna hard buddy all game? The opposite of last time

Sure, I’ll vote you when only my TR’s remain.
It’d probably be you last scum at that point if your scum.

@Gavial you can't vote me you promised

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think I’m readably town in this game but aside from that I’m way out of my scum meta in any case

So does Falcon.

yeah because he's town :P

[Gavial]

falcon feels very town to me idk

If Falcon flips Wolf, am I Wolf?

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah probably but he won't

[TonyStarkPrime]

you directly asking makes me more sure that I'm right that you're not w/v and less sure that I'm right that you're v/v

[Gavial]

Gavial wanna hard buddy all game? The opposite of last time

Sure, I’ll vote you when only my TR’s remain.
It’d probably be you last scum at that point if your scum.

@Gavial you can't vote me you promised

The only one that remains is you and Falcon.
What now?
Your move love.

[TonyStarkPrime]

you can vote for falcon then smh

[TonyStarkPrime]

voting for falcon is a losing proposition but rather him than me