The Syndicate

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:20 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:14 am But I did notice that besides Abby, the other person Bereft was pushing was Ranmilia. Ranmilia seems like the only obvious connection between the Bereft and Gira kills.

Bereft was someone RDB wouldn't want to kill but Abby would. Gira was someone Abby wouldn't want to kill but RDB would. I guess an RDB/Abby pairing would solve this issue but it's still weird.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:28 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:20 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:14 am But I did notice that besides Abby, the other person Bereft was pushing was Ranmilia. Ranmilia seems like the only obvious connection between the Bereft and Gira kills.

Bereft was someone RDB wouldn't want to kill but Abby would. Gira was someone Abby wouldn't want to kill but RDB would. I guess an RDB/Abby pairing would solve this issue but it's still weird.

I don't ever kill mac and wind, I don't kill Bereft (though i guess from your pov i can't prove that) and i don't kill gira heading into today if i know it's not true lylo, which i think wolves must've known. though again idk if that will make sense to you.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:20 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:19 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Also Porscha was removed from the game last night for over posting

this is a thing?

for dead players yes, for alive players no

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:31 am Also wolves always want to kill the outed roleblocker who could mechanically out one of them, I don't know I can take any claims from someone who claims otherwise seriously. Sure, Windward was only 2-shot, but I don't believe she ever claimed as such.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:26 pm well then.

what were the exact flips (don't copy paste) of illario/delta/lime coke?

ilario: vanilla mafia

Delta: 3p, seems benign?, Visually saw both threads and from each thread during their respective night phases chose an alignment and player and if they chose person/alignment 3 times they won, if they got alignment right 5 times they won, they were never a sole winner of the game. IDK what the technical term is for this sort of role

Lime Coke: 3x roleblocker mafia

Misspelling of ilario noted, have a good day

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:31 am Also wolves always want to kill the outed roleblocker who could mechanically out one of them, I don't know I can take any claims from someone who claims otherwise seriously. Sure, Windward was only 2-shot, but I don't believe she ever claimed as such.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:34 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:31 am Also wolves always want to kill the outed roleblocker who could mechanically out one of them, I don't know I can take any claims from someone who claims otherwise seriously. Sure, Windward was only 2-shot, but I don't believe she ever claimed as such.

And another reason why there probably isn't a wolf blocker, and I should have realized this earlier, is because a wolf blocker would've blocked Windward, not me.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:29 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:28 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:20 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:14 am But I did notice that besides Abby, the other person Bereft was pushing was Ranmilia. Ranmilia seems like the only obvious connection between the Bereft and Gira kills.

Bereft was someone RDB wouldn't want to kill but Abby would. Gira was someone Abby wouldn't want to kill but RDB would. I guess an RDB/Abby pairing would solve this issue but it's still weird.

I don't ever kill mac and wind, I don't kill Bereft (though i guess from your pov i can't prove that) and i don't kill gira heading into today if i know it's not true lylo, which i think wolves must've known. though again idk if that will make sense to you.

"I wouldn't do this as a wolf" is too easy for a wolf to say for me to put any stock in it.

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm

hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.

WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

... what did you "prove"

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm

hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.

WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

Proved it how?

FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:37 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm
WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

... what did you "prove"

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm
WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

Proved it how?

FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

These are the kinds kills I subscribe to as mafia lol

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:03 am The potential game end makes me worried about voting in our side, if it's true we were "in lylo". and also i. don't know who it is. from yesterday it feels like it has to be rondo but... i'm compromised and demoralized.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:16 am Wait, I just had an Idea.

What if thread merged because wolves already won in thread 2? What if there are 2 wolves left in thread 2 and 1 wolf left in thread 1? Does that make any sense?

9-4-1 doesn't appear too balanced but what do I know. But assuming three wolves in each thread ours was at LyLo and theirs was at MiLo, assuming no ITPs of course.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:16 am Wait, I just had an Idea.

What if thread merged because wolves already won in thread 2? What if there are 2 wolves left in thread 2 and 1 wolf left in thread 1? Does that make any sense?

9-4-1 doesn't appear too balanced but what do I know. But assuming three wolves in each thread ours was at LyLo and theirs was at MiLo, assuming no ITPs of course.

I'm like 95% sure this game started 19 v 6 v 2

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:44 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:41 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:26 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:09 am While we may not be able to quote iso's I think it'd be helpful if we reviewed our threads and at least comment as to who should be removed from PoE and why.

me - killed TSP, attested towny by all dead town, kept alive because i was tunneled on dizzymade and prob shielding a wolf in rondo/abi, can't wolf this well and would be a ridiculously self defeating strategy.

leetic - constantly solving, often abrasive but has what we call a reality distortion field. jack has several games experience with and swears up and down this is town leetic. tracker claim.

... that's pretty much it on our side.

LOL. I killed TSP, was attested towny by all dead town WWA/Made/Pyxxy/Robyn and anyone who can say something about their meta can break it

Town can never be wrong, I guess. Though at this point, a wolf has to have helped kill TSP unless the solve is exactly tedxtr/Abby. And is that a likely team with how much they were fighting throughout the game? I mean, it's worth keeping in mind, but still.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:39 am
tutuu, me, and Werefuck were all pretty expected kills in your last wolf game, so press x to doubt.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:45 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:39 am
tutuu, me, and Werefuck were all pretty expected kills in your last wolf game, so press x to doubt.

Werefuck

Werefuck

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:48 am I mean, Abby was the only person Bereft seemed to be suspecting, so there's that. I'll look over Gira's latest EoD in a bit but I mostly remembered that they were acting really deflated and that town would lose because they would be mislynched in LyLo (lol)

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:46 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:48 am I mean, Abby was the only person Bereft seemed to be suspecting, so there's that. I'll look over Gira's latest EoD in a bit but I mostly remembered that they were acting really deflated and that town would lose because they would be mislynched in LyLo (lol)

True.

My MO is to leave people suspecting me alone though. Alexy if they are who I think they are can attest to this.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:08 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:05 am wolf!abi doesn't kill me, doesn't kill rondo, doesn't kill leetic... it would have to be ted or gira.

I think Abby actually has more motivation to kill me than Gira, namely to confirm my third tracker shot as real. I don't see why she would kill Gira, who was explicitly pushing Ranmilia/RDB and was quite deflated besides. But it may have had to do with Abby's partner in a w!Abby world.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:39 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:37 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm

... what did you "prove"

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm

Proved it how?

FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

These are the kinds kills I subscribe to as mafia lol

tutuu, me, and Werefuck were all pretty expected kills in your last wolf game, so press x to doubt.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:16 am Wait, I just had an Idea.

What if thread merged because wolves already won in thread 2? What if there are 2 wolves left in thread 2 and 1 wolf left in thread 1? Does that make any sense?

9-4-1 doesn't appear too balanced but what do I know. But assuming three wolves in each thread ours was at LyLo and theirs was at MiLo, assuming no ITPs of course.

I'm like 95% sure this game started 19 v 6 v 2

Is that counting Bereft as ITP?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:53 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:39 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:37 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm



FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

These are the kinds kills I subscribe to as mafia lol

tutuu, me, and Werefuck were all pretty expected kills in your last wolf game, so press x to doubt.

Kay I have like 30 games disproving this and a few of those actually do have public wolf chats also disproving that but go off

FoL I haven't been controlling or even really suggesting kills my last 2 wolf Rands cause I can't be assed cause I was sick of randing wolf so I let Jade control one and told Eliza we should just kill anyone with WiM in the other lol

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:53 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:16 am Wait, I just had an Idea.

What if thread merged because wolves already won in thread 2? What if there are 2 wolves left in thread 2 and 1 wolf left in thread 1? Does that make any sense?

9-4-1 doesn't appear too balanced but what do I know. But assuming three wolves in each thread ours was at LyLo and theirs was at MiLo, assuming no ITPs of course.

I'm like 95% sure this game started 19 v 6 v 2

Is that counting Bereft as ITP?

Yes

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:55 am anyhow. sup abi.

who are the wolves?

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:57 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:53 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:16 am Wait, I just had an Idea.

What if thread merged because wolves already won in thread 2? What if there are 2 wolves left in thread 2 and 1 wolf left in thread 1? Does that make any sense?

9-4-1 doesn't appear too balanced but what do I know. But assuming three wolves in each thread ours was at LyLo and theirs was at MiLo, assuming no ITPs of course.

I'm like 95% sure this game started 19 v 6 v 2

Is that counting Bereft as ITP?

Yes

That would feel a bit odd, especially since Delta seems to be standalone so it's not like Bereft provides parity there. I guess if the other thread was 2-1-1, that would be LyLo too and 5-3-1 would explain the odd state we're in? But I wonder what ITPs could truly be left at this point. Not SK, presumably not Jester if they survived this far, same with lyncher, I seriously hope we're not dealing with a cult?

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:57 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:53 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:44 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:24 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:16 am Wait, I just had an Idea.

What if thread merged because wolves already won in thread 2? What if there are 2 wolves left in thread 2 and 1 wolf left in thread 1? Does that make any sense?

9-4-1 doesn't appear too balanced but what do I know. But assuming three wolves in each thread ours was at LyLo and theirs was at MiLo, assuming no ITPs of course.

I'm like 95% sure this game started 19 v 6 v 2

Is that counting Bereft as ITP?

Yes

That would feel a bit odd, especially since Delta seems to be standalone so it's not like Bereft provides parity there. I guess if the other thread was 2-1-1, that would be LyLo too and 5-3-1 would explain the odd state we're in? But I wonder what ITPs could truly be left at this point. Not SK, presumably not Jester if they survived this far, same with lyncher, I seriously hope we're not dealing with a cult?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:58 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:55 am anyhow. sup abi.

who are the wolves?

Rondo and maybe you maybe ted

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:00 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:58 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:55 am anyhow. sup abi.

who are the wolves?

Rondo and maybe you maybe ted

Although Rondo/Ranmilia would be weird mainly because what were they doing both jumping to TSP last-minute when they could have condemned Dizzy or pyxxy? They couldn't anticipate my jump, after all. I'd be surprised if both wolves were on TSP, then again pyxxy/Made somehow turned out to be t/t

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:05 am Anyways I really

Really

REALLY

Think Rondo TMId Made town and I can't get that post out of my head

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:08 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:05 am Anyways I really

Really

REALLY

Think Rondo TMId Made town and I can't get that post out of my head

what post? we can't quote but you can say the postnum.

with you in feeling skill issue, if you're town anyway.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:10 am RDB/Abby feels like the easy solve, but the easy solves this game have been crap. Still, third/fourth/whatever time's the charm?

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:13 am Also, it seems the apparent disparity in the posting between the threads (if Made is to be believed) is still keeping up