The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:27 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:21 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:18 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:19 am In any case, I don’t think Hal is a good vote today.

I think SVs and Roxy are the wolves.

if I am a wolf why are you voting Timmer.

I dare you to put your money where your mouth is.

Says the person who isn’t voting

Nah, I’ll keep flitting around, thanks

Q: why should I not vote timmer?

They've stated they are traveling for 48 hrs, seems less than ideal.

This is not a viable excuse not to vote.

I’ve been traveling the past few days. I’m still weighing in on things, making stances. I don’t feel like I should have a pass

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:05 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:32 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:25 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:07 am @S~V~S and @Roxy
any initial reads of each other? I find it odd neither of you have really engaged each other

Have you read our ISOs?

I made a rudimentary reads list, and listed Roxy as "Trying to move things along, good look" (paraphrase).

Why would I "engage" someone for no reason? We had a small, couple posts, convo about low posters, but she hasn't said anything else I felt required "engaging".

Reading you and Roxy has been more of a cursory read, and from memory I didn’t recall you two interacting much less reading each other

So do you townread her atm based on what limited talking has happened?

I have a set of ideas for tone with Town Rox, not unlike with Kate, she's easier for me to find than bad Rox, I got a clear picture of her town game from an adversarial position in Se7en, where I watched her very closely. Town Roxy has a wide focus, she looks at everyone, she doesn't much tunnel, and she evolves. So yes, especially since most of the limited talking has been generated by her. That's who I see here, and I don't recall ever seeing this when Rox was bad. So i won't town core anyone before voting/results, but I town lean her, yeah.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:13 pm Again, to better explain why voting a no poster on D1 is bad:

We learn absolutely nothing if they flip town. And it’s exactly random, unless you are arguing that every player that has posted is towncore.

I doubt it, at least one of you that has posted is a filthy roadie and not actually part of the band

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm And yes, I have played with him though it was many millennia ago. Looking at it in a vacuum because I don’t know timmer’s meta, posting ‘I’m here but busy’ is an excuse type of post I associate with someone trying to say they’re here and not have to do anything else. It’s that very line that seems to get a pass from people that I don’t feel like I want to let into the venue

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm And yes, I have played with him though it was many millennia ago. Looking at it in a vacuum because I don’t know timmer’s meta, posting ‘I’m here but busy’ is an excuse type of post I associate with someone trying to say they’re here and not have to do anything else. It’s that very line that seems to get a pass from people that I don’t feel like I want to let into the venue

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:16 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:27 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:21 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:18 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:19 am In any case, I don’t think Hal is a good vote today.

I think SVs and Roxy are the wolves.

if I am a wolf why are you voting Timmer.

I dare you to put your money where your mouth is.

Says the person who isn’t voting

Nah, I’ll keep flitting around, thanks

Q: why should I not vote timmer?

They've stated they are traveling for 48 hrs, seems less than ideal.

This is not a viable excuse not to vote.

I’ve been traveling the past few days. I’m still weighing in on things, making stances. I don’t feel like I should have a pass

I mean, did you tell the thread you'll be traveling and not around? I feel that's somewhat different.





What about timmer's posts tell you they're wolf? I mean, yes it's a bit fluffy, but this is not uncommon for 3 posts into D1.





In before it's just timmer & sean

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:13 pm Again, to better explain why voting a no poster on D1 is bad:

We learn absolutely nothing if they flip town. And it’s exactly random, unless you are arguing that every player that has posted is towncore.

I doubt it, at least one of you that has posted is a filthy roadie and not actually part of the band

I mean, you are voting for a 3 poster, I don't see that as radically different

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:51 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:34 am @Roxy Talk to me about SVS & Scotty if yer able

SVS ok so far I guess

Scotty has given me pause with his line of questioning and I feel like he has and agenda - town or bad I do not know yet

but that LC list is something....I need some answers.

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game

we always keep timmer here @Scotty

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:24 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:13 pm Again, to better explain why voting a no poster on D1 is bad:

We learn absolutely nothing if they flip town. And it’s exactly random, unless you are arguing that every player that has posted is towncore.

I doubt it, at least one of you that has posted is a filthy roadie and not actually part of the band

I mean, you are voting for a 3 poster, I don't see that as radically different

I don’t think I can say anything more to convince it’s different.

Anyway, should I vote you? I could

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:01 pm

hal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:15 am No, just a good schemer.

I have never played with anyone in this playlist before, who do you think are good wolves here and how comfortable do you feel in the playerlist?

I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.

falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum

How about that?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:21 pm @Scotty if you think voting for someone who showed up, but is AFK, and said they would be, isn't opportunistic, not sure what to say. It's not too different than voting no shows, which you seem to oppose.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:25 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game

we always keep timmer here @Scotty

I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.

We always keep Seanzie here

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:26 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:24 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:13 pm Again, to better explain why voting a no poster on D1 is bad:

We learn absolutely nothing if they flip town. And it’s exactly random, unless you are arguing that every player that has posted is towncore.

I doubt it, at least one of you that has posted is a filthy roadie and not actually part of the band

I mean, you are voting for a 3 poster, I don't see that as radically different

I don’t think I can say anything more to convince it’s different.

Anyway, should I vote you? I could

Do you think I'm Maf?

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:30 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:25 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game

we always keep timmer here @Scotty

I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.

We always keep Seanzie here

no we always kill seanzie

i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr

however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:32 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:30 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:25 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game

we always keep timmer here @Scotty

I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.

We always keep Seanzie here

no we always kill seanzie

i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr

however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer

I’m… not sure I understand. If he’s not to appear, shouldn’t we wait for a replacement? That way we can actually realize a read on his slot?

Why are people wanting to shoot blindly into the void??

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:24 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:51 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:34 am @Roxy Talk to me about SVS & Scotty if yer able

SVS ok so far I guess

Scotty has given me pause with his line of questioning and I feel like he has and agenda - town or bad I do not know yet

but that LC list is something....I need some answers.

Talk to me about the list, what about it bothers you specifically?

I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:35 pm jpic has 0 posts, who the hell said they had 4?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:35 pm as trying to appease them

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:34 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:32 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:30 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:25 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game

we always keep timmer here @Scotty

I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.

We always keep Seanzie here

no we always kill seanzie

i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr

however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer

I’m… not sure I understand. If he’s not to appear, shouldn’t we wait for a replacement? That way we can actually realize a read on his slot?

Why are people wanting to shoot blindly into the void??

i'm unsure how i didn't think of that, i realize that lots of syndicaters aren't in this game so there can be a replacement

i'm on team scotty if we are to chop someone not for reads

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:45 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:34 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:32 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:30 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:25 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game

we always keep timmer here @Scotty

I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.

We always keep Seanzie here

no we always kill seanzie

i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr

however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer

I’m… not sure I understand. If he’s not to appear, shouldn’t we wait for a replacement? That way we can actually realize a read on his slot?

Why are people wanting to shoot blindly into the void??

i'm unsure how i didn't think of that, i realize that lots of syndicaters aren't in this game so there can be a replacement

i'm on team scotty if we are to chop someone not for reads

You’re on team voting me? Do you actually suspect me? That’s the first I’m hearing of it

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:39 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:35 pm as trying to appease them

based off his roxy/you reads he townreads me

so, good analysis

what makes u think of him withholding a tr on me?

strikes me more as opportunistic than appeasement, although it's partially the latter

based off how i played last game, w!LC would uh seek to handle me

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:37 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:02 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:58 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:24 am weird catch up is weird.

I will not vote hal tho they are most sus

Will probs be voting a no show

If you most suspect Hal, why not vote there?

you really asking me this?

Hmm... is this something suspicious from Scotty? Roxy implies it, maybe. I feel like he has been in recent games where this has come up and been discussed. If you look at it from one angle, a Scotty that already knows the answer to a question he's asking is a Scotty that is being fake... maybe a Scotty trying to subtly put suspicion Roxy's way.

Or maybe not! It's a stretch. Maybe this is ME trying to put suspicion SCOTTY's way! I'll look into it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:45 pm Happy to chop Ender, in the hope that Boq's sacrifice will not be in vain. I wish we could have played your "who's the most likely nightkill target?" game, that sounded fun... and also sounded like the assuredness of Ender's non-Landlord status was contingent on it somehow. Hope Boq was analyzing correctly.

Ender indicated that it's an incorrect conclusion from the info. What could that mean? Tracker/Watcher... possible redirect? What could Ender immediately understand about Boq's limited talk about it?

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:01 pm

hal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:15 am No, just a good schemer.

I have never played with anyone in this playlist before, who do you think are good wolves here and how comfortable do you feel in the playerlist?

I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.

falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum

How about that?

oh interesting sr on roxy

i don't agree with it but that also means that he's tentatively townreading me

scotty and svs reads stick out to me sorta, if i were to explain why it would take 100+ words and i cba when it's all conjecture

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:55 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:37 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:02 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:58 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:24 am weird catch up is weird.

I will not vote hal tho they are most sus

Will probs be voting a no show

If you most suspect Hal, why not vote there?

you really asking me this?

Hmm... is this something suspicious from Scotty? Roxy implies it, maybe. I feel like he has been in recent games where this has come up and been discussed. If you look at it from one angle, a Scotty that already knows the answer to a question he's asking is a Scotty that is being fake... maybe a Scotty trying to subtly put suspicion Roxy's way.

Or maybe not! It's a stretch. Maybe this is ME trying to put suspicion SCOTTY's way! I'll look into it.

this is a very animated post, very different from his last game, and frankly terrible

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:47 pm that is, voting with you

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:52 pm

hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:39 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:35 pm as trying to appease them

based off his roxy/you reads he townreads me

so, good analysis

what makes u think of him withholding a tr on me?

strikes me more as opportunistic than appeasement, although it's partially the latter

based off how i played last game, w!LC would uh seek to handle me

It could be seen that way, it just feels waffly to me, I guess. He put reads on zero posters, but chose not to on you. I may be reading into it becasue he also made that cutesy remark. It just felt like him trying to stay on your good side and not ruffle you up.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:49 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:44 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:46 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:02 am

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:22 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:58 pm Ok time to get some discussion going

If we’re all part of a band, (all playing guitar) and some are trying to sabotage our show, I ask anyone that’s here:
-what kind of guitar do you play? What does it look like?
-are you more of a support or do you want the solos?
-what is your ideal venue?

Go

* My friends son is trying to get this guitar for Christmas. My friends husband isn't sure the son is serious enough about it to justify the expense. It's acoustic electric which apparently amplifies the acoustic sound primarily for stage use; hubby isn't sure Sonny needs that. We'll see. My friend think she'll chip in half if her son manages to save half. But to get to the question, I'd play this. I think it's gorgeous, and since I failed at lessons, as an acoustic I wouldn't much be harrassing others when I play it.



*Support. IRL I think I'd make a fab personal assistant, I love pulling the strings and making things happen in the background. So standing in the background, mentally planning the bands next move, holding my lovely guitar without actually playing it, would be the place for me. A place where I could watch people rather than them watching me. This is what I'd like, but it seldom happens lol. I generally try pushing the front man out of the way , with varied degrees of success.

*For a band I was in? Someplace dark with a large stage I could fade back on. For a band I worked for? A place with an office with plants and a big window I could use to figure out who was trying to sabotage us by poring over concert footage.
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Never got into electric. Something about the tuning felt too naked when learning. But I like the idea of getting them to half pay.

You prefer support, eh? Does that also translate to mafia? Like, when you’re mafia, do you tend to hang in the background and not powerwolf, or does this analogy not relate?

It does translate. Day one I play pretty much the same, i think. I tend to be a bit more haphazard when I'm town, say stupid shit, etc. I look for a hook when town, something that someone says that seems not right. Then I become kind of a PITA. But I need the hook. When I'm bad, I try to avoid "being" the hook. "Almost too smooth" someone called it once, and they were right. I'm never a PITA when I'm bad.

So I’m looking for you to be almost too smooth like baby’s ass

Got it.

Do you not think you can replicate your town game as mafia?

First, I think self meta is mostly pointless since anyone can say anything they want to, but I think this is pretty much something anyone who knows me well could confirm.

So, yes, I could, but it would be awkward and weird for me to do so, and anyone who knows me would have to notice it. I'm so much more careful when bad, I polish my posts, reread them a few times, try to catch all the "becasue"s. I try harder to not say anything incendiary or that will annoy people too much. It's hard to fake carelessness, and my town game is more spontaneous.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:39 pm SVS, Scotty I feel safe to call town at the moment




Roxy I'm less sure of, but more towny than not





Scum reading Hal & LC, and I'd also say timmer is more scummy than not





JPIC, Sean are null

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:16 am I Discorded Seanzie and falcon. I couldn't do JPIC as we have not made friends there yet.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:26 pm Is the ukulele considered a guitar?

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:36 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:26 pm Is the ukulele considered a guitar?

Is the banjo?

hal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:33 pm idk why ik so mad sorry

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:01 pm

hal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:15 am No, just a good schemer.

I have never played with anyone in this playlist before, who do you think are good wolves here and how comfortable do you feel in the playerlist?

I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.

falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum

How about that?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:07 pm I've seen two people wolfread JPIC, and one townread him.

He hasn't made one post.

How is this possible?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:24 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:51 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:34 am @Roxy Talk to me about SVS & Scotty if yer able

SVS ok so far I guess

Scotty has given me pause with his line of questioning and I feel like he has and agenda - town or bad I do not know yet

but that LC list is something....I need some answers.

Talk to me about the list, what about it bothers you specifically?

This isn't my question, but a few things bother me. First, it feels like he's not so much defending Halyn, as trying to appease them, if that makes sense, with this remark:

I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.

followed up with not putting a read on Halyn even though he put reads on the no shows.

Then, he put a wolf read on jpic and a town read on Sean, while both of them have the same zero posts. If he found no shows sus, he would sus both of them, right? And if he was in the no shows = BOTD camp, then it would be both of them.

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Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:37 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:36 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:26 pm Is the ukulele considered a guitar?

Is the banjo?

If it has stings and can make a sound it's a guitar