The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:42 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:36 am who in this game is not a regular on this site?
I dont see how that is the towniest post because he really evaluated a read based on meta, a read that I still have no idea why it existed in the first place

Are you talking about

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:11 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:03 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:01 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:00 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:59 am I am fine with Illario. He has not pinged me.
he's a wolf so if you don't 180 this read i'm just locking you in as partner
How about you just give me time to see it for myself and reach that conclusion naturally if he is so outed. Instead of handing me a blueprint to pocket you by 180ing my reads like I did KotH D2.
this is a wolf perspective slip btw
if you believed that you would have voted here?

this quote chain?

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:44 am**

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:57 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:51 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:25 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:24 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:18 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:06 am Yup yup, I already have a good feeling about this game!

Also, since pikachu has outted already… thank you!

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine
Why do you have a good feeling already?
I believe some of the players that have entered the game so far when they are town, are really good and can help win the game.

And so far, I have a couple of leaning tr on some slots that I view as +EV for town if they are actually town. So I feel like the direction of this game will be in good hands.
Who are you leaning town on?

Spoiler: show
Mac, Illario, Wisp

How did you get to this?
Illario - entrance and way he was approaching Alison to question town reads to get a better understanding in what seemed like he was trying to "begin forming a town core"

Mac - Has been confrontential with the players so far in a good way to form reads and has engaged in my conversation with Illario through defending me using past experiences to analyze my responses which is a good look for Mac.

Wisp - Made a quick town read on Alison that I feel like Wisp would be more reserved with esp early in the game when I have seen him as Mafia. As mafia, he seemed to deflect/question certain player's actions and be quick to call several players mafia right out the gate. All be it, it's the lightest one but yea.

do you force urself to say some of your reads, I am curious
just wondering how you managed to write out, "beginning to form a town core", from what Illario has posted so far
this is especially light compared to finals

I can at least agree with Mac, the way they have approached the game so far is pretty loose, but from my understanding Mac usually just self-resolves

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:46 am**

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:42 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:36 am who in this game is not a regular on this site?
I dont see how that is the towniest post because he really evaluated a read based on meta, a read that I still have no idea why it existed in the first place
Are you talking about
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:11 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:03 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:01 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:00 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:59 am I am fine with Illario. He has not pinged me.
he's a wolf so if you don't 180 this read i'm just locking you in as partner
How about you just give me time to see it for myself and reach that conclusion naturally if he is so outed. Instead of handing me a blueprint to pocket you by 180ing my reads like I did KotH D2.
this is a wolf perspective slip btw
if you believed that you would have voted here?
this quote chain?

no, there was a specific post that Mac quoted that he said was super townie from Rando

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:58 am**

nah there wasn't

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:59 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:46 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:42 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:36 am who in this game is not a regular on this site?
I dont see how that is the towniest post because he really evaluated a read based on meta, a read that I still have no idea why it existed in the first place
Are you talking about
Spoiler: show
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:11 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:03 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:01 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:00 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:59 am I am fine with Illario. He has not pinged me.
he's a wolf so if you don't 180 this read i'm just locking you in as partner
How about you just give me time to see it for myself and reach that conclusion naturally if he is so outed. Instead of handing me a blueprint to pocket you by 180ing my reads like I did KotH D2.
this is a wolf perspective slip btw
if you believed that you would have voted here?
this quote chain?
no, there was a specific post that Mac quoted that he said was super townie from Rando

Spoiler: show

this one?
ngl, if mac's townread on rondo was based mostly/solely on this, I'd probably agree with you
I don't feel like it was, but that might be personal bias/me misreading somebody I don't really know well yet

if you look at the interaction between mac and rondo, does this stand out as a big part of that?

(sidenote - for future use so I don't blot out the page with quotes if I want to do something like this again, does this site have a postnumber somewhere/can I tag it somehow? if yes, where/how?)

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:01 am**

oh that, yeah that was pretty townie but really the main reason I am townreading rondo is because i can see that he was trying to solve me and gave up

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:01 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am rondo is town

yeah i agree

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:03 am**

@Tilgarial if you ask most people I'm easy to read. If I could make a suggestion it would be you just try to read me by whether I am being pro town or not lol.

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:03 am**

ftr i was at rondo being town a while ago but wanted to see if anyone would push their oppurtunistically after seeing alisons push

though the closest thing that happened to that was wisp discredditing macs read there but wisp was already kinda wolfy anyways so that doesnt change much for me

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:09 am**

sigh Im slowly reminded why I hate playing with big heads

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:11 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:09 am sigh Im slowly reminded why I hate playing with big heads

why

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:11 am**

ill do me, you do you
Rondo isn't getting a town lean
Im literally sitting on almost the same mindset is Mac, so its so fucking weird to say I am discrediting him because im trying to understand the Rondo read

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:12 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:11 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:09 am sigh Im slowly reminded why I hate playing with big heads
why

nothing im going to sleep

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am rondo is town
because he called you out? Rondo hasn't really done anything except ask useless questions imo

this felt more like discrediting the read as opposed to understanding the read

am i being uncharitable here?

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:14 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:03 am @Tilgarial if you ask most people I'm easy to read. If I could make a suggestion it would be you just try to read me by whether I am being pro town or not lol.

in all honesty, from what I see of you so far, I'd have a lot easier of a time to construct a townie narrative than a wolf narrative.
the only problem is that the townie narrative kinda relies on some reaching/me making assumptions about some of your thoughtprocesses I'm not confident on making, and I get the feeling that's not gonna change much in the near future(both the read reliance on those factors, as well as me not being confident about reading into your thoughts. not sure which will change first, but we'll see)

but yeah - doesn't really feel like a priority read either way right now. I'm mostly using it for wisp right now

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:15 am**

if this werent you i would say this your posting gives me v!supershorty vibes where she overreacts and has a crisis over the slightest and most inconsequential amount of pressure

but then i remember you had the exact same reaction to anne d1 last game so id best ill chalk it off as nai

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:15 am**

so at best*

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:18 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am rondo is town
because he called you out? Rondo hasn't really done anything except ask useless questions imo
this felt more like discrediting the read as opposed to understanding the read

am i being uncharitable here?

I mean I think how a lot of how many of you talk is uncharitable, but that's beside the point
if my wording comes off as so, that's not my intention

but you are like, "ya I thought he was town for a while, and im holding that read close to my chest", while calling random people wolfy, I actually hate you lol
how the hell am I townier as a wolf, than as town in ur eyes
you people are so damn strange

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:20 am**

pretty sure Mafia Syndicate is just cursed for me, I should just not post, and let others do w/e

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:23 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:01 am oh that, yeah that was pretty townie but really the main reason I am townreading rondo is because i can see that he was trying to solve me and gave up

meh, dont really see that, but w/e
which is fine since Sean still exists

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:23 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:18 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am rondo is town
because he called you out? Rondo hasn't really done anything except ask useless questions imo
this felt more like discrediting the read as opposed to understanding the read

am i being uncharitable here?
I mean I think how a lot of how many of you talk is uncharitable, but that's beside the point
if my wording comes off as so, that's not my intention

but you are like, "ya I thought he was town for a while, and im holding that read close to my chest", while calling random people wolfy, I actually hate you lol
how the hell am I townier as a wolf, than as town in ur eyes
you people are so damn strange

because i have a bad habit of rewarding ate-y posts with townreads so i trd your ate d1 when you were a wolf. i found u as obv town the first time we were v/v so that last part isnt correct. i found you wolfy here because your approach feels overly charitable to strong players and overly harsh on the more easier to push players which is what i associate as wolfy.

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:24 am**

like i dont get why ur so bothered when most of the thread has u as town lol

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:24 am**

but yeah w/e ill just give u space

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:25 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:15 am if this werent you i would say this your posting gives me v!supershorty vibes where she overreacts and has a crisis over the slightest and most inconsequential amount of pressure

but then i remember you had the exact same reaction to anne d1 last game so id best ill chalk it off as nai

are u actually going to look at any of the emotion I put into this game, and truly call it NAI, because that never realistically happens
Why am I a wolf
Why does Aro/Me exist

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 am**

Well I already explained the first question

The aro read exists because it felt like he didn’t know how to naturally open into the thread so he defaulted into asking that question to ease himself in. Some of the explanations to his reads and the process behind it has felt reachy and he’s felt overly-explainey at times

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:29 am**

u guys literally just throw out fucking words (which in all honesty, tend to not even be fleshed out thoughts half to time), and expect me to react like I just witnessed the second coming of Jesus
like chill

let me do my thing, you do yours
I can be confident with some players even this early, and also not want people being town read, no matter how good the player saying them is perceived. I also dont have the benefit of playing a multitude of games with Mac. I think he is town atm, but Im not going to agree with every read

good night

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:32 am**

i do kinda read that ate as towny

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:32 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 am Well I already explained the first question

The aro read exists because it felt like he didn’t know how to naturally open into the thread so he defaulted into asking that question to ease himself in. Some of the explanations to his reads and the process behind it has felt reachy and he’s felt overly-explainey at times

stop posting
It could be the case, the question didn't really do anything for the thread state.
I think both Aro and Alison have that problem, and I dont really know how to read if its, "Do they believe this, or are they pushing this maliciously"

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:33 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 am Well I already explained the first question

The aro read exists because it felt like he didn’t know how to naturally open into the thread so he defaulted into asking that question to ease himself in. Some of the explanations to his reads and the process behind it has felt reachy and he’s felt overly-explainey at times

Mac already did it, not you explain to me why Rondo is town
do we at least agree with Sean?
I dont feel like back reading and i want to go to sleep

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:33 am**

not gonna lie, not sure what to do with that, so I'll just leave it be

that said, wisp, if you're reading this, I'd prolly still appreciate your perspective on the mac/rondo thing I asked earlier whenever you're back

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:34 am**

Good morning everyone,

Since I only know a few people: I am from the Netherlands, Europe, so at 10 pm day ends/starts, unless there is a delay like yesterday, otherwise I usually could be present during end/start of a day. Congratulations everyone with 10 year Syndicate Mafia, and I will try to catch up now.

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:35 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:33 amgo to sleep

...just go sleep
IRL>Game
you can talk more when you're back here

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:36 am**

naook illario and alison are all town

lilypetal and aro contains one mafia

gn

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am**

actually

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:40 pm Also this is my 4444th post.

Because of that I will not be posting again... ever.

Good luck everyone.

This lasted 5 minutes.

Also, hello Seanzie! How have you been?

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:29 am u guys literally just throw out fucking words (which in all honesty, tend to not even be fleshed out thoughts half to time), and expect me to react like I just witnessed the second coming of Jesus
like chill

let me do my thing, you do yours
I can be confident with some players even this early, and also not want people being town read, no matter how good the player saying them is perceived. I also dont have the benefit of playing a multitude of games with Mac. I think he is town atm, but Im not going to agree with every read

good night

when has anyone does this so far??

you are being overly dramatic to the point of being borderline ludicrous atm

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:23 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:18 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am rondo is town
because he called you out? Rondo hasn't really done anything except ask useless questions imo
this felt more like discrediting the read as opposed to understanding the read

am i being uncharitable here?
I mean I think how a lot of how many of you talk is uncharitable, but that's beside the point
if my wording comes off as so, that's not my intention

but you are like, "ya I thought he was town for a while, and im holding that read close to my chest", while calling random people wolfy, I actually hate you lol
how the hell am I townier as a wolf, than as town in ur eyes
you people are so damn strange
because i have a bad habit of rewarding ate-y posts with townreads so i trd your ate d1 when you were a wolf. i found u as obv town the first time we were v/v so that last part isnt correct. i found you wolfy here because your approach feels overly charitable to strong players and overly harsh on the more easier to push players which is what i associate as wolfy.

you have no idea how I play the game

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:38 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:29 am u guys literally just throw out fucking words (which in all honesty, tend to not even be fleshed out thoughts half to time), and expect me to react like I just witnessed the second coming of Jesus
like chill

let me do my thing, you do yours
I can be confident with some players even this early, and also not want people being town read, no matter how good the player saying them is perceived. I also dont have the benefit of playing a multitude of games with Mac. I think he is town atm, but Im not going to agree with every read

good night
when has anyone does this so far??

you are being overly dramatic to the point of being borderline ludicrous atm

keep going then, we can see how far this will go

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:38 am**

you are literally crying for me to let you do your thing while i do mine which is literally what i was doing

i outed reads, i didnt hardpush you, i didnt try to attack anyone townreading you, hell i didnt even vote you myself

wtf are you having a massive cry about

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:39 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:35 pm If you're mafia. And I'm mafia...

Then whose driving the plane?

Ender! Long time no see. How are you?

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:40 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:23 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:18 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am rondo is town
because he called you out? Rondo hasn't really done anything except ask useless questions imo
this felt more like discrediting the read as opposed to understanding the read

am i being uncharitable here?
I mean I think how a lot of how many of you talk is uncharitable, but that's beside the point
if my wording comes off as so, that's not my intention

but you are like, "ya I thought he was town for a while, and im holding that read close to my chest", while calling random people wolfy, I actually hate you lol
how the hell am I townier as a wolf, than as town in ur eyes
you people are so damn strange
because i have a bad habit of rewarding ate-y posts with townreads so i trd your ate d1 when you were a wolf. i found u as obv town the first time we were v/v so that last part isnt correct. i found you wolfy here because your approach feels overly charitable to strong players and overly harsh on the more easier to push players which is what i associate as wolfy.
you have no idea how I play the game

yeah clearly i dont because i expect peopel to be able to handle mild suspicion on them esp when they have been playing as long as you have

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:40 am**

k i read thread here are my very expensive thoughts

hello lily sweet princess how has your day been

mac town likelay

uuuuuuuh yeah sean is doing like the opposite of his towntell atm so that's pain

nobody else important enough for first post not sorry

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:41 am**

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:33 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:28 am Well I already explained the first question

The aro read exists because it felt like he didn’t know how to naturally open into the thread so he defaulted into asking that question to ease himself in. Some of the explanations to his reads and the process behind it has felt reachy and he’s felt overly-explainey at times
Mac already did it, not you explain to me why Rondo is town
do we at least agree with Sean?
I dont feel like back reading and i want to go to sleep

rondo felt town because his response to alisons pressure wasnt overly panicky. his tone in general seems calm/at ease. i dont have much of a read on sean, if people want him then then i have no issue with that atm

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:43 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:36 am naook illario and alison are all town

lilypetal and aro contains one mafia

gn

v likely all true

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:43 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am actually

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine

you know what, why not

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:44 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:38 am you are literally crying for me to let you do your thing while i do mine which is literally what i was doing

i outed reads, i didnt hardpush you, i didnt try to attack anyone townreading you, hell i didnt even vote you myself

wtf are you having a massive cry about

you write, "attack anyone town reading you"
as if like I attacked Mac for town reading Rondo

we both keep our votes close to our chests, so its rather irrelevant to say "I didnt even vote you"
you very rarely hard push from what I've seen of both Semi's and finals, especially not this early, unless im just dumb

I mean yes we have both outted reads
tbh it should be as clear as day what I want

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:46 am**

@Millium hey, friend. you're aggitated right now. I don't know if it's related to the game, but you also mentioned it's late, effectively. maybe sleeping would do you good?

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:48 am**

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:32 am I can already tell I'm probably gonna have a hard time reading mac, I think

Aro/Alison townish

Mindmelt. I was going to say Alison is my 1st townread, and Aro my 2nd.

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:49 am**

i'm still mafia but i decided that i will be townsiding today

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:49 am**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:40 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:23 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:18 am
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:13 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:34 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:13 am rondo is town
because he called you out? Rondo hasn't really done anything except ask useless questions imo
this felt more like discrediting the read as opposed to understanding the read

am i being uncharitable here?
I mean I think how a lot of how many of you talk is uncharitable, but that's beside the point
if my wording comes off as so, that's not my intention

but you are like, "ya I thought he was town for a while, and im holding that read close to my chest", while calling random people wolfy, I actually hate you lol
how the hell am I townier as a wolf, than as town in ur eyes
you people are so damn strange
because i have a bad habit of rewarding ate-y posts with townreads so i trd your ate d1 when you were a wolf. i found u as obv town the first time we were v/v so that last part isnt correct. i found you wolfy here because your approach feels overly charitable to strong players and overly harsh on the more easier to push players which is what i associate as wolfy.
you have no idea how I play the game
yeah clearly i dont because i expect peopel to be able to handle mild suspicion on them esp when they have been playing as long as you have

I guess that depends on the case itself, but that wasn't the point of my statement, since arguing that me working with big voices, and pressuring players u see has LHF is silly given, I am almost never voting a player like you, Mac, over even Alison, unless someone drops a red check, which means im going to focus on the other people posting, like Rondo, of whom I think had a bad opener

but sure, I can't say I dont agree that he handles pressure decently

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