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Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:20 pm**

Still higher than pressure on anyone else.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:24 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:52 pm How about "How many of the people outside of the thread are Mafia?"

This questions begs another: how many people in the thread are mafia?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:40 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm I think Vulgard is playing day 1 in much the way that other people play day 1. means nothing.
What do you think about the people who piled on Vulgard then? Which of them look like opportunistic scum trying to throw shade to you, and which of them look like townies with legit suspicions?

1. I don’t agree with them (you).
2. funnygurl
3. I wouldn’t say anybody *looks* like that. I could buy most of them (you) individually. But I wouldn’t go as far as to say I’m getting a good vibe from anyone in this group.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:42 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm I think Vulgard is playing day 1 in much the way that other people play day 1. means nothing.
Which is...?

Giving very superficial reads as there isn’t anything else to go on.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:46 pm**

i was just talking to my roommates about vulgard or i guess more specifically "i type exactly how i speak and this kid thinks i'm fake"

and they were like "it's cool that you type the way that you are"

and i was like "LOL" i mean no but thanks

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:46 pm**

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm I think Vulgard is playing day 1 in much the way that other people play day 1. means nothing.
What do you think about the people who piled on Vulgard then? Which of them look like opportunistic scum trying to throw shade to you, and which of them look like townies with legit suspicions?
1. I don’t agree with them (you).
2. funnygurl
3. I wouldn’t say anybody *looks* like that. I could buy most of them (you) individually. But I wouldn’t go as far as to say I’m getting a good vibe from anyone in this group.

What parts of FG's progression felt off to you?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:46 pm**

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm I think Vulgard is playing day 1 in much the way that other people play day 1. means nothing.
What do you think about the people who piled on Vulgard then? Which of them look like opportunistic scum trying to throw shade to you, and which of them look like townies with legit suspicions?
1. I don’t agree with them (you).
2. funnygurl
3. I wouldn’t say anybody *looks* like that. I could buy most of them (you) individually. But I wouldn’t go as far as to say I’m getting a good vibe from anyone in this group.

thanks i am indeed an entire point in a list

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:47 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:44 pm The two worst mafia players in the world are voting for the confirmed best player in the world. Unbelievable.

first of all

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:50 pm**

i think it's too early to pile on vulgard. i think valid points have been raised against him but like sloonei said i wanna let him breathe. when i get a lot of pressure early i tend to become defensive and unproductive.

we're here to find wolves plural. we won't get far narrowing the discussion down to one person this early

that being said, enrique saying that vulgard "seems fine" when the rest of us disagree is imo an important data point to hold onto for now. it's spicy. i disagree but it's spicy

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:51 pm**

It looks pretty good for Enrique actually.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:52 pm**

yeah that's what i'm thinking. i like it when people go against the grain like that. it's not enough for me to form a read on him though

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:57 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:51 pm It looks pretty good for Enrique actually.

I think so too, more so if Vulgard is bad. If Vulgard is town and Scum Enrique sees the thread piling on him early he can do the old knight in shining armor shtick here. But if Vulgard is mafia, I have a hard time seeing his teammate showing up at this phase to say "Nah, this guy is town" and then backing it up with what amounts to a shrug.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:02 pm**

Sloonei's been fine. He made his point re: Vulgard. Unvoting early D1 isn't sus to at all. There's a written record of his read. It'd be suspicious if his voting record ends up not matching his reads, but that's days from now.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:06 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:02 pm Sloonei's been fine. He made his point re: Vulgard. Unvoting early D1 isn't sus to at all. There's a written record of his read. It'd be suspicious if his voting record ends up not matching his reads, but that's days from now.

I don't think my handling of vulgard is the reason LC suspects me.
idk if funnygurl actually suspects me or if she's just voting for laughs

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:07 pm**

[VOTE: no one] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:09 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:46 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:16 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:15 pm I think Vulgard is playing day 1 in much the way that other people play day 1. means nothing.
What do you think about the people who piled on Vulgard then? Which of them look like opportunistic scum trying to throw shade to you, and which of them look like townies with legit suspicions?
1. I don’t agree with them (you).
2. funnygurl
3. I wouldn’t say anybody *looks* like that. I could buy most of them (you) individually. But I wouldn’t go as far as to say I’m getting a good vibe from anyone in this group.
What parts of FG's progression felt off to you?

If all of us have very little justification to seriously suspect anyone right now, fg’s pointing at Vulgard seemed especially low effort... I don’t get the “fishing” thing or how it’s alignment indicative at this stage of the game. How she defines it looks to me like both what she’s doing and what everyone else is doing:

it looks like you're trying to form reads and give an appearance of wolf hunting when a) it ain't really the time for it and b) your suspicions are of little substance atm

I think people are allowed to be hypocrites about how they play vs. how they read other players, but this was really on the nose and smelled at least a little funny to me.

Now excuse me for contradicting myself about forgiving hypocrisies but I just noticed this about another player while going through some ISOs:

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:50 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:40 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.
I can see it. Pre-slank excuse, mech chatter, and bland greetings.
I could see Vulgard being scum but mostly because their posting looks kinda carefully controlled to be as inoffensive and trigger people's scumdars as little as possible. I had a confused reaction to that mechanic as well so I don't blame them for the mech chatter, and I think pre-slank excuses are NAI. There are very few people (in general, but especially on the Syndicate) who roll scum and then go "alright! I'm going to go and give an excuse so I can coast through D1!" Not only is this just uncommon behavior, it's also suboptimal - you allow yourself to engage in some anti-town behavior, but in exchange you lose a lot of ability to gain trust and manipulate the town. Syndicate is not a site that is afraid to exe slankers and you will win a lot more games by powerwolfing than coasting.
But really, I like your angle on the pre-slank excuse. Vulgard is a Champs player if I'm not mistaken, and that would apply more to that type of player more than a casual player. I think mech chatter and bland greetings do fall under the "carefully controlled to be as inoffensive and trigger people's scumdars as little as possible" umbrella.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:42 pm @nutella you were one of the out-of-thread demi-gods in Assassin's Creed. What can you tell us about that experience?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:45 pm What do you mean by “theory meta”?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:19 pm @TonyStarkPrime @Poison what are your thoughts on this game's version of Vulgard compared to the version you saw in the previous game?
I lean scum on Sloonei right now because these questions don't feel like they have any solving intention behind them. They're just filling out his post count. The first one especially rubs me the wrong way. The only thing I assume about this Nanook game is that the out-of-thread element is not the same as his last game, because I expect Nanook to have a bit more creativity than that. I expect, at the very least, a fun twist on it that would intentionally subvert our assumptions based on the previous game. Standard 'sequel' stuff.

That said, I can't see what value Sloonei expected from that question. There's nothing alignment-indicative about the way nutella answers this, and there's probably little relevance to this game.

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Ironically these two are the most substantive of LC’s 40
posts in the game yet! And they’re both about scum doing inoffensive fluffing.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 pm**

i stand corrected i think enrique's town

even though my ego has a booboo now

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 pm**

im a hypocrisy hypocryte

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:14 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 pm i stand corrected i think enrique's town

even though my ego has a booboo now

its hard to answer a question like “who looks like opportunistic scum” without sounding harsh

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:18 pm**

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 pm im a hypocrisy hypocryte

[catchphrase]

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:25 pm**

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:32 pm**

gonna [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm**

I think Nutella is mafia here.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:58 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm I think Nutella is mafia here.

Why?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:59 pm**

Im not but ok

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:00 pm**

Haven't hit my super obvtown d1 stride yet so I forgive you but it'll happen

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:08 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm I think Nutella is mafia here.
Why?

I do not have a specific reason but if you are town I think she isn't.

Also I'm not going to engage in our usual shtick. You can be the alpha MU champ and push me around and whatever.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:09 pm**

Alison is town thankfully so we probably will be winning this game.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:09 pm**

If Nutella is town this game is going to be pretty easy if we avoid hero chopping people.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:14 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm I think Nutella is mafia here.
Why?
I do not have a specific reason but if you are town I think she isn't.

Also I'm not going to engage in our usual shtick. You can be the alpha MU champ and push me around and whatever.

Alright then listen here. This is my game now. Your ass is mine, cupcake. So pull your head out of there and get it together:

Tell me what fridge item everyone in this game is.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:38 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:14 pm Your ass is mine, cupcake.

Hot damn

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:58 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 pm I think Nutella is mafia here.
Why?
I do not have a specific reason but if you are town I think she isn't.

Also I'm not going to engage in our usual shtick. You can be the alpha MU champ and push me around and whatever.
Alright then listen here. This is my game now. Your ass is mine, cupcake. So pull your head out of there and get it together:

Tell me what fridge item everyone in this game is.

It's an important question deserving of a considered answer.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:03 pm**

I'm an important individual deserving of a cupcake

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm**

What the fuck is going on here

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm**

Vulgard: eggs that are like three weeks old but still totally fine because eggs last a while
Alison: chicken breast
Sloonei: bell pepper (closest thing to paprika that would be in a fridge. or I guess maybe leftover paprikash or goulash)
Long Con: maple syrup
nutella: doesn't belong in the fridge. but could also be ice cream in the freezer
MacDougall: haha vegemite haha i'm being real unoriginal. or maybe sausage
Funnygurl555: well she used to be baby carrots but i think shes like a spicy chipotle hummus to go with the carrots
Marmot: Oregon marionberry jam
Syn: dried out day old tim hortons donut
TonyStarkPrime: honey mustard
Poison: chocolate milk
Enrique: scallions

And the ppl not in the thread are not in the fridge but in the cupboard
Hyena: caramel popcorn
Quin: cinnamon
Trustworthy Liberal: seaweed snacks
Turnip Head: well...duh

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:16 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:06 pm Who has played with Vulgard before?
I think just the people he mentioned on the first page from G-Man's game -- Poison, TSP, and LC.
Interesting. LC was quick to jump on the idea of Vulgard being mafia.
@TonyStarkPrime @Poison what are your thoughts on this game's version of Vulgard compared to the version you saw in the previous game?

Well Vulgard was an obvious town based on their Day 1 play. They were active. They had theories. They were Eager. They posted quite a few wallies and detailed ISOs. But their play dropped the next day, both activity wise and content wise, but still they were towny enough to get NKed N2. I don't think I can judge him from only page 1 yet.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:16 pm**

Sloonei/nutella is a pretty odd difference check to be pushing. I don't see the connection between the two of them. nutella looks pretty normal to me.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:16 pm**

I obviously care more about this game than Mac does

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:16 pm**

Also good morning. I have to catch upto only 4 pages hype.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:17 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm Vulgard: eggs that are like three weeks old but still totally fine because eggs last a while
Alison: chicken breast
Sloonei: bell pepper (closest thing to paprika that would be in a fridge. or I guess maybe leftover paprikash or goulash)
Long Con: maple syrup
nutella: doesn't belong in the fridge. but could also be ice cream in the freezer
MacDougall: haha vegemite haha i'm being real unoriginal. or maybe sausage
Funnygurl555: well she used to be baby carrots but i think shes like a spicy chipotle hummus to go with the carrots
Marmot: Oregon marionberry jam
Syn: dried out day old tim hortons donut
TonyStarkPrime: honey mustard
Poison: chocolate milk
Enrique: scallions

And the ppl not in the thread are not in the fridge but in the cupboard
Hyena: caramel popcorn
Quin: cinnamon
Trustworthy Liberal: seaweed snacks
Turnip Head: well...duh

Chicken breast? Why?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:18 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm Vulgard: eggs that are like three weeks old but still totally fine because eggs last a while
Alison: chicken breast
Sloonei: bell pepper (closest thing to paprika that would be in a fridge. or I guess maybe leftover paprikash or goulash)
Long Con: maple syrup
nutella: doesn't belong in the fridge. but could also be ice cream in the freezer
MacDougall: haha vegemite haha i'm being real unoriginal. or maybe sausage
Funnygurl555: well she used to be baby carrots but i think shes like a spicy chipotle hummus to go with the carrots
Marmot: Oregon marionberry jam
Syn: dried out day old tim hortons donut
TonyStarkPrime: honey mustard
Poison: chocolate milk
Enrique: scallions

And the ppl not in the thread are not in the fridge but in the cupboard
Hyena: caramel popcorn
Quin: cinnamon
Trustworthy Liberal: seaweed snacks
Turnip Head: well...duh
Chicken breast? Why?

Ngl I originally had you as scallions but then I remembered you hate most veggies so I gave you a meat but like a bland one yknow <3

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:18 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm Vulgard: eggs that are like three weeks old but still totally fine because eggs last a while
Alison: chicken breast
Sloonei: bell pepper (closest thing to paprika that would be in a fridge. or I guess maybe leftover paprikash or goulash)
Long Con: maple syrup
nutella: doesn't belong in the fridge. but could also be ice cream in the freezer
MacDougall: haha vegemite haha i'm being real unoriginal. or maybe sausage
Funnygurl555: well she used to be baby carrots but i think shes like a spicy chipotle hummus to go with the carrots
Marmot: Oregon marionberry jam
Syn: dried out day old tim hortons donut
TonyStarkPrime: honey mustard
Poison: chocolate milk
Enrique: scallions

And the ppl not in the thread are not in the fridge but in the cupboard
Hyena: caramel popcorn
Quin: cinnamon
Trustworthy Liberal: seaweed snacks
Turnip Head: well...duh

Pocketed.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:20 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm What the fuck is going on here

We’re putting old donuts in the fridge like goddamn heathens.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:15 pm What the fuck is going on here
We’re putting old donuts in the fridge like goddamn heathens.

How old are we talking about?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:22 pm**

I think soda would fit me best, I'm sort of addicted to it.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:23 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:40 pm I routinely lie and manipulate as town. It's just optimal play.

Poison has told me that she often feels very uncomfortable as mafia and gets found out very quickly, and that she's generally bad at playing mafia. But in this game she feels very comfortable and fluid. I understand that a game where she is mafia has just ended; what was she like in that game?

She was able to change her meta!

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:23 pm**

Poison wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:27 pm People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.
After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:24 pm**

why the hell am i scallions

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:25 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:38 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:14 pm Your ass is mine, cupcake.
Hot damn

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