Vanilla Mafia - [MELTED]

[Elohcin]

Listed in alphabetical order, these are the people I haven’t seen any reason to trust yet:

-JaggedJimmyJay
-MafiaMenace
-Nutella
-Spacedaisy
-Waywardson

In a game of 12 players, is a list of five in whom you have no trust yet a bad thing?

Why isn't eloh on this list?

[VOTE: eloh] aubergine She ain't tryin. Complains about being suspected and about the thread having little content but does nothing to address either of these issues.

I wasn't complaining. I was stating a fact.

[Elohcin]

im here for like 30 min
catching up

3:05pm EST

im putting catching up on hold
half an hour isnt enough time

3:12pm EST

That's seven minutes.

Now THIS is something to grasp at.

[Epignosis]

If you go to the bank for a loan, and you have no credit history, the bank might tell you that you don't have creditworthiness.

"But I haven't done anything to have good or bad credit."

Correct. And for that reason, you lack creditworthiness in the eyes of the loan officer.

thats a shitty comparison
this is mafia
not any of that stuff

Luckily for you, in my mind, the word "shitty" means "excellent."

Listed in alphabetical order, these are the people I haven’t seen any reason to trust yet:

-JaggedJimmyJay
-MafiaMenace
-Nutella
-Spacedaisy
-Waywardson

In a game of 12 players, is a list of five in whom you have no trust yet a bad thing?

Why isn't eloh on this list?

[VOTE: eloh] aubergine She ain't tryin. Complains about being suspected and about the thread having little content but does nothing to address either of these issues.

I wasn't complaining. I was stating a fact.

Impossible.

Facts don't exist in this world anymore.

Definitions are meaningless hindrances upon our existence.

Have a shitty day.

[Epignosis]

I'm going to watch some vanilla TV now for a little bit.

And by "vanilla," I mean "saccharine."

[MafiaMenace]

MM, epi is just arguing semantics don't worry he's like that. The difference is whether you interpret "un-" to mean purely negative or as negative-or-zero.

latter

[Elohcin]

its complete garbage to say someone is untrustworthy and possibly scum just because they havent showed up

I'd agree with you if it was about someone who literally (heh) hadn't checked in yet, but when that person has at least been online and posted once to acknowledge the game has started but hasn't participated substantially since, there is a reasonable cause for concern.

they explicitly stated that i was untrustworthy before i said a word
and that i also didnt have time to check in, yet still scumread me even though they assumed that

Why should you be trustworthy before you've said anything?

but how would i be unstrustworthy?
i literally cant be either since i havent made a post

no one is trustworthy, or even neutral, until they prove themselves as such.

[Elohcin]

That said, I have talked to Menace in discord, soon after this game went into signups actually. And that was a LONG time ago. So....I can see that he forgot about the game and that is why he is late.

[Elohcin]

What a coinky-dink. I am going to go watch tv too. BBL

[G-Man]

Looks like we need some drama.

[reywaS]

The votes are really all over the place but I guess it's still early in the game. Welcome to this site mafiamenace. Unless you're bad .
I dont feel like there is much to go on for elo votes she barely said anything or is that really the argument against her is that she didnt say anything?
Spirit is like super angry for some reason and was a little confusing at times. Is it common to vote non/host as a placeholder? I've seen self voting for that purpose before idk.
Epi focused a lot on that literal argument which seems like it really doesnt have anything to do with the game. Could be a distraction away from any discussion or accusation in his direction.
Others like sloonei and gman seem to be trying to throw things out there to get a discussion going. Though gman made sure to begin the game by stating he is the most vanilla of civs

Reywas is literally all memes and not much actual posting of anything so that doesnt look great. It's like participating without really saying anything? Unless there is some weird inside joke about kanye that I'm not aware of to explain this?

So early in the game hard to decide where to go. I am going to a hockey game tonight so I may not be around a lot for end of day discussion but I'll try to check in if I can. I'm inclined to vote epi or reways at the moment. I'm thinking reways because at least epi is talking even if it was a lot of random things about the language people use. Sorry for the hugely long post just trying to fit all my thoughts into one.

And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know
What it means, what it means
And I wonder if you know

[nutella]

sprityo is good.

Elohcin is bad. Her most recent post is a token "look involved" post. Asking the guy who merely checked in what his thoughts are is futile. [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

I thought her tagging onto G's post about me was rather unoriginal as well, but then she tends to be prejudiced against me.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

That's why we hear your music in fast forward
cuz we don't wanna hear that weak shit no mo!

Not sure I understand your reason for voting Jay here.

[mention]G-Man[/mention] when and why did you vote for Jay?

[nutella]

The question applies to [mention]reywaS[/mention] as well if it isn't obvious but I don't have much faith that he'll produce a coherent answer.

[reywaS]

Now everybody got the game figured out all wrong
I guess you never know what you got 'til it's gone
I guess that's why I'm here and I can't come back home
And guess when I heard that? When I was back home

[G-Man]

sprityo is good.

Elohcin is bad. Her most recent post is a token "look involved" post. Asking the guy who merely checked in what his thoughts are is futile. [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

I thought her tagging onto G's post about me was rather unoriginal as well, but then she tends to be prejudiced against me.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

That's why we hear your music in fast forward
cuz we don't wanna hear that weak shit no mo!

Not sure I understand your reason for voting Jay here.

@G-Man when and why did you vote for Jay?

Look up the why. The when was after my previous post.

[reywaS]

The question applies to @reywaS as well if it isn't obvious but I don't have much faith that he'll produce a coherent answer.

[nutella]

If you have a theory about Jay is love to hear it but I have no idea what any of your posts have been trying to say so you're not being particularly helpful to solving the game

[nutella]

I'd* love to hear it. Sorry jay but you're not love

[G-Man]

Looking back at his ISO, I don’t see enough shady talk join the Sloonei train. I also don’t see enough to warrant joining the Eloh train.

Does anyone else share my level of mistrust toward Nutella?

[G-Man]

Lovely host, [mention]ColinIsCool[/mention], what happens in the event of a tie? The OP and the rest of your ISO fail to expound upon the ramifications of such a scenario.

[reywaS]

Looking back at his ISO, I don’t see enough shady talk join the Sloonei train. I also don’t see enough to warrant joining the Eloh train.

Does anyone else share my level of mistrust toward Nutella?

[reywaS]

The question applies to @reywaS as well if it isn't obvious but I don't have much faith that he'll produce a coherent answer.

[Sloonei]

Looking back at his ISO, I don’t see enough shady talk join the Sloonei train. I also don’t see enough to warrant joining the Eloh train.

Does anyone else share my level of mistrust toward Nutella?

Epignosis train still waiting to depart from the station over here.

[G-Man]

Looking back at his ISO, I don’t see enough shady talk join the Sloonei train. I also don’t see enough to warrant joining the Eloh train.

Does anyone else share my level of mistrust toward Nutella?

Let’s move our votes then?

Or would you prefer to stay parked on Jay?

[G-Man]

Leaving right after the deadline to watch a 97-year-old horror film. Are we pulling any late-phase shenanigans or can I get a head start on my movie?

[ColinIsCool]

Lovely host, @ColinIsCool, what happens in the event of a tie? The OP and the rest of your ISO fail to expound upon the ramifications of such a scenario.

Good question! Ties are decided randomly.

[G-Man]

Ties are decided randomly.

Lame, but we’ll live. Well, 11 of us will at least.

[nutella]

[mention]G-Man[/mention] thoughts on sloonei vs epi?

[G-Man]

Let them both live to die another day.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: elohcin] aubergine

Self-preservation and for the sake of making things happen.

[ColinIsCool]

Thread is LOCKED.

[ColinIsCool]

Day 1

Elohcin
3
25%
Voters: Sloonei, nutella, JaggedJimmyJay

Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None

G-Man
0
No votes
Voters: None

JaggedJimmyJay
2
17%
Voters: G-Man, reywaS

MafiaMenace
0
No votes
Voters: None

Nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None

reywaS
1
8%
Voters: sabie12

sabie12
0
No votes
Voters: None

Sloonei
2
17%
Voters: sprityo, Epignosis

Spacedaisy
0
No votes
Voters: None

Sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None

WaywardSon
0
No votes
Voters: None

Tom Waits (host/mod/non)
4
33%
Voters: WaywardSon, ColinIsCool, Kylemii, speedchuck

[ColinIsCool]

Elohcin has been literally lynched.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

She was Cotton Candy, a civilian. And my favorite flavor!

It is now Night 1. Day 2 will begin in 23.5 hours at 9:00 p.m. EST on 1/12/2019.

[nutella]

Sorry Eloh.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: elohcin] aubergine

Self-preservation and for the sake of making things happen.

This is bullshit-flavored froyo that melted on the sidewalk after a spoiled child who didn't deserve a treat dropped it and it oozed into the storm drain where Pennywise was hanging out and even he thought it was bad.

You can stop at "self-preservation."

You were not "making things happen."

You haven't been "making things happen."

And you will not be "making things happen" in the future.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: elohcin] aubergine

Self-preservation and for the sake of making things happen.

This is bullshit-flavored froyo that melted on the sidewalk after a spoiled child who didn't deserve a treat dropped it and it oozed into the storm drain where Pennywise was hanging out and even he thought it was bad.

You can stop at "self-preservation."

You were not "making things happen."

You haven't been "making things happen."

And you will not be "making things happen" in the future.

So literally nothing happened as a result of my vote?

[Epignosis]

A civilian who couldn't even be bothered to vote to save her own ass got lynched.

What did you make happen?

[Sloonei]

A civilian who couldn't even be bothered to vote to save her own ass got lynched.

What did you make happen?

My survival. I also anticipated movement from nutella and G-man in response to my vote since they’d been sitting around looking confused for a while. But there apparently wasn’t enough time.

[Epignosis]

A civilian who couldn't even be bothered to vote to save her own ass got lynched.

What did you make happen?

My survival. I also anticipated movement from nutella and G-man in response to my vote since they’d been sitting around looking confused for a while. But there apparently wasn’t enough time.

You already said that:

[VOTE: elohcin] aubergine

Self-preservation and for the sake of making things happen.

Self-preservation is "my survival."

I don't fault anybody for that.

"Making things happen" is not "my survival."

You couldn't make things happen at any point the rest of the Day phase? You parked your vote on me and...that was it.

[Sloonei]

A civilian who couldn't even be bothered to vote to save her own ass got lynched.

What did you make happen?

My survival. I also anticipated movement from nutella and G-man in response to my vote since they’d been sitting around looking confused for a while. But there apparently wasn’t enough time.

You already said that:

[VOTE: elohcin] aubergine

Self-preservation and for the sake of making things happen.

Self-preservation is "my survival."

I don't fault anybody for that.

"Making things happen" is not "my survival."

You couldn't make things happen at any point the rest of the Day phase? You parked your vote on me and...that was it.

I have been and currently am at work.

[Epignosis]

Epi helped turn the thread into an off-topic debate about language. Epi was then antagonistic toward the resumption of gameplay without contributing any fresh reads or opinions himself. Epi is a bowl of chocolate ice cream.

Yeah, well I was at work too.

[G-Man]

Lousy result. Not a good look.

[G-Man]

A civilian who couldn't even be bothered to vote to save her own ass got lynched.

What did you make happen?

My survival. I also anticipated movement from nutella and G-man in response to my vote since they’d been sitting around looking confused for a while. But there apparently wasn’t enough time.

Lame as Tom Brady’s haircut. You changed your vote with a minute left before the deadline. You didn’t even give us time for movement in response to your vote and you knew it. Anyone who does that with a minute left knows exactly what they’re doing- saving their skin in the snakiest of ways.

I wasn’t looking confused. Nobody was. Don’t make it off like we don’t know what to do without Sir Sloonei here to hold our hands and ‘make things happen.’ Your game sucks right now, and the more you post garbage reasoning like that only makes me more inclined to vote for you tomorrow.

Do me a favor and don’t flinch next time. Take your chances on the tie-breaker rather than relying on the Tuck Rule.

[Sloonei]

A civilian who couldn't even be bothered to vote to save her own ass got lynched.

What did you make happen?

My survival. I also anticipated movement from nutella and G-man in response to my vote since they’d been sitting around looking confused for a while. But there apparently wasn’t enough time.

Lame as Tom Brady’s haircut. You changed your vote with a minute left before the deadline. You didn’t even give us time for movement in response to your vote and you knew it. Anyone who does that with a minute left knows exactly what they’re doing- saving their skin in the snakiest of ways.

I wasn’t looking confused. Nobody was. Don’t make it off like we don’t know what to do without Sir Sloonei here to hold our hands and ‘make things happen.’ Your game sucks right now, and the more you post garbage reasoning like that only makes me more inclined to vote for you tomorrow.

Do me a favor and don’t flinch next time. Take your chances on the tie-breaker rather than relying on the Tuck Rule.

hell no. I’ll always vote to break a tie, especially when my ass is on the line.

I did mean to vote with more time on the clock though. That was work’s fault.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Here I am forgetting about EODs. I am a 19-year veteran former all-star riding the bench to provide "veteran leadership"

[Epignosis]

What is this?


Tom Waits (host/mod/non)
4
33%


Voters: WaywardSon, ColinIsCool, Kylemii, speedchuck

[Epignosis]

And MafiaMenace didn't even vote.

Hey new guys:

Vote for people. Civilians lose if civilians don't vote.

[Sloonei]

Kansas must have some serious beef with Tom Waits.

[Sloonei]

Here I am forgetting about EODs. I am a 19-year veteran former all-star riding the bench to provide "veteran leadership"

??? 19 year veterans are supposed to carry the team to a first round bye.

[Sloonei]

I am home now so I can explain myself a little more thoroughly.

I’d been keeping half an eye on the thread for the last hour or so of the day while running around at work. I saw that I was in a three-way tie with Jay and Eloh. I saw a few people listlessly kicking some tires, and I was anticipating that one or two of them would do somethink to shake up the poll. I still wanted Epi lynched, so I didn’t move my vote. I made a single post before my vote calling for more attention on him, but it seems to have been totally ignored.

As the clocking was winding down, so was the activity. Nothing was happening, so I put a vote on the candidate I objected to the least, which was Elohcin. I suppose it’s fair to criticize me for doing this too late in the day to allow for a proper response, but that was not my intention, and there was ample opportunity for anybody else to create a more clearly defined tally during the several hours leading up to that moment. Saving myself was top priority. Secondary to that was not allowing the lynch to be left to chance. Ties are not a good thing. They should alway be avoided.

I still suspect Epi and would like it if we could talk about that now.

[Epignosis]

Yes, please. Talk about that.