The Syndicate

Who was shielding Wurzel again

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:46 am Who was shielding Wurzel again

Wiml

Don Wurzeloni, Orangecrush, Nanook, Sig and Lost Monkey consists of my scumpool right now.

Duskfall offed KZA and he played it off like town. I'm not sure how often that role is scum/town on this site.

People usually calls me scummy when I tried to discuss who to kill beforehand with the players lol.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:42 am

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:37 am I have played a game here a while ago when I was town:

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... =radiohead

Thanks! Would you mind linking me a wolf game so I can compare?

I don't have a wolf game here, but I have one on MU.

@Wiml whats your read on wurzel and how reliable is your read on wurzel historically

@Wiml

Wolf game on MU:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ampionship

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:53 am Duskfall offed KZA and he played it off like town. I'm not sure how often that role is scum/town on this site.

People usually calls me scummy when I tried to discuss who to kill beforehand with the players lol.

just vig someone in the poe is fine it helps town long run, didnt discuss in case blocked or some shenanigans

I could honestly switch to Orangecrush as well, but I don't feel strongly about my read on him. Not nearly enough posts.

People with less posts would make good vig kills imo.

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:56 am I could honestly switch to Orangecrush as well, but I don't feel strongly about my read on him. Not nearly enough posts.

lack of content is a reason to keep someone alive for you?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:55 am

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:53 am Duskfall offed KZA and he played it off like town. I'm not sure how often that role is scum/town on this site.

People usually calls me scummy when I tried to discuss who to kill beforehand with the players lol.

just vig someone in the poe is fine it helps town long run, didnt discuss in case blocked or some shenanigans

Ah gotcha!

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:57 am People with less posts would make good vig kills imo.

ok maybe im over reacting but is this a slip LMAO

how do you know its a vig when theres a claimed dayvig thats a wild assumption that town can rely on the second nightkill being town too?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:57 am

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:56 am I could honestly switch to Orangecrush as well, but I don't feel strongly about my read on him. Not nearly enough posts.

lack of content is a reason to keep someone alive for you?

I would vote off the least active players any day of the week!

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:58 am how do you know its a vig when theres a claimed dayvig thats a wild assumption that town can rely on the second nightkill being town too?

I just assumed it was. I did speculate that was the case at the very start of D2.

I might have to change my mind about this though bc of your role. Seems to be Vanilla heavy still though so not sure tbh.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:58 am

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:57 am People with less posts would make good vig kills imo.

ok maybe im over reacting but is this a slip LMAO

Most likely not lol.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:09 pm I'm highly doubtful we'd have SK and mafia kills, if there's a third party killer they wouldn't kill every night for sure. I'm thinking either limited shot vig or JOAT

This is a good point I randomly found from Sig.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:45 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:34 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:29 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:28 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:25 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:12 am Tim any wolf team with Wurzel on should have killed you anyway given how you manage to scumread him every game without fail.

I didn't actually scumread him. I just read Alison's ISO. I played day one (at least the amount of day one that I was in) very close to the vest. The wolves had no reason to kill me because the only thing they had on my intentions was a vague late vote on Alison.

It was obvious what your reads were going to be tbh.

Really?

What's my read on Falcon?

That was a polite way of insulting your reads lol.

And my response was a polite way of saying "you can't even FIND my reads."

So, back to Alison's ISO. The only fire she had was Wurzel. Even chopping HK she was just perfunctory about because it obviously had to be done. I don't see any way the wolf team could read her and think she was going for anyone but Wurzel, so if he is not a wolf why kill her? Closed setup there could easily be a doc to be dodged, and Alison is an obvious protect. They only N1K there if they really have to, IMO.

I just don't think alison is a bad kill for non-Wurzel teams though . She's probably the person I would have defaulted to myself if I had no strong opinions on the kill? I don't think worrying about a doc save is all that much of an issue in an odd numbers game tbh but even then alison wasn't an especially likely save anyway? And this is all under the condition that the wolf team comes to the conclusion that Wurzel is in danger from alison. I think it's just as likely that anybody else in her PoE kills her as Wurzel?

As much as I have him as town, I think there are a good reasons to scumread Wurzel (particularly his D2 - his reads list especially - has been pretty awful) but I don't think this is one of them.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:54 am @Wiml whats your read on wurzel and how reliable is your read on wurzel historically

Was strong town but trending down a bit, now a town lean. Used to not really be able to read him but I've got him immediately as town in the last two games he's played from tone despite him being a LHF slot. He said the last game we played together that he expected me to have caught him immediately if he were a wolf. He has a very easy-to-wolfread playstyle normally.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:33 am

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:08 pm Hey lost monkey

What now?

Still the same, lynch falcon.

Why?

Any other reads?

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:55 am @Wiml

Wolf game on MU:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ampionship

Thanks! I'll sit down and have a read later (having issues reading the ISO on TS for some reason).

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:58 am

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:57 am People with less posts would make good vig kills imo.

ok maybe im over reacting but is this a slip LMAO

Its only a slip if he's a vig lol

Vig taking out Ender doesn't make sense IMO, but it's not overly important I s'pose.


Went thru Sig's ISO, it looks safe AF.

Okay I think I shouldn't have held this info for too long:

Last night I tracked Wiml to Alison and Herm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 pm Okay I think I shouldn't have held this info for too long:

Last night I tracked Wiml to Alison and Herm

Spicy AF

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 pm Okay I think I shouldn't have held this info for too long:

Last night I tracked Wiml to Alison and Herm

Spicy AF

It's prob wolf taking nightkill alongside their role action, but I was still wondering.

Interesting.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 pm Okay I think I shouldn't have held this info for too long:

Last night I tracked Wiml to Alison and Herm

probably should not have no

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:29 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 pm Okay I think I shouldn't have held this info for too long:

Last night I tracked Wiml to Alison and Herm

probably should not have no

I'm too bad at handling info like this

voted wiml

the info we got from today is also fine for me tbh so holding isnt actually bad

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:08 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:55 am @Wiml

Wolf game on MU:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ampionship

Thanks! I'll sit down and have a read later (having issues reading the ISO on TS for some reason).

No rush.

Seems like you have something else to comment on first though lol.

didn't expect there'd have a dayvig

its fine theres no loss from holding it to now but wouldve been bad to not claim at all today obviously

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine

WOOF

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:30 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:08 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:55 am @Wiml

Wolf game on MU:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ampionship

Thanks! I'll sit down and have a read later (having issues reading the ISO on TS for some reason).

No rush.

Seems like you have something else to comment on first though lol.

Imma be waiting

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:28 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 pm Okay I think I shouldn't have held this info for too long:

Last night I tracked Wiml to Alison and Herm

Spicy AF

It's prob wolf taking nightkill alongside their role action, but I was still wondering.

Why did you track Wiml?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:30 pm its fine theres no loss from holding it to now but wouldve been bad to not claim at all today obviously

I was planning to always bring it up today just didn't know when and wanted to see who Wiml would spew.

[VOTE: WIML] aubergine

Got anything to say for yourself?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:32 pm

Duskfall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:30 pm its fine theres no loss from holding it to now but wouldve been bad to not claim at all today obviously

I was planning to always bring it up today just didn't know when and wanted to see who Wiml would spew.

yeah thats fair good call

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:31 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:28 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:24 pm Okay I think I shouldn't have held this info for too long:

Last night I tracked Wiml to Alison and Herm

Spicy AF

It's prob wolf taking nightkill alongside their role action, but I was still wondering.

Why did you track Wiml?

I had to pick a track, I saw his name in the poll and thought "why he can't be wolf?"

Wpuld have been nice to know before I put hours into this game but ok sure.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:33 pm Wpuld have been nice to know before I put hours into this game but ok sure.

Sorry, it was strategically the bwst to hold it. Being tracked as a wolf doing the nightkill is a nightmare so I can sympathize.

I'm not defending myself here because there's no point. Good luck wolves have a good one.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:33 pm Wpuld have been nice to know before I put hours into this game but ok sure.

Are you denying it?

Good game Wiml!

Ftr I want to say that I was holding back still lol.

Final post.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:36 pm I'm not defending myself here because there's no point. Good luck wolves have a good one.

Wow. Didn't see that coming.

[VOTE: WIML] aubergine

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:41 pm Ftr I want to say that I was holding back still lol.

Tell us who's on your team, confession is good for the soul