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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:43 pm
by Seanzie
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:18 pm If it's really best for me to be removed from PoE:

Legacy
Falcon, Guillo, Pyx, Zenon town

Seanzie seems like frustrated town

Epi doesn't seem in likeness to W meta

Robyn and Rem seem wolfy but Zenon says no so w/e.

And I only say this because it seems a lot of people I tr just think I'm wolf, so this must be the way.
So right now your best guess at a wolf team is Robyn/Rem? Or something else?
I'd think at least one in Robyn/Rem. The team works, but is Zenon really wrong in both? Probably not.

The teammate would be some area where I have misread. I.e. epi actually being in scum range or your frustrated wolf looks just like frustrated town.

I'd say possibly wrong on you/epi then Guillo/Pyxxy but I really don't think I'm wrong in Falc/Zenon
Is there any reason you seem to want Robyn a lot more than Rem?
I've seen more Zenon/Rem interactions than Zenon/Robyn, makes me trust one read just slightly more.

Plus Robyn just not being here makes me feel better voting the slot.
How are you so confident on Zenon!town?

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:43 pm
by Epignosis
I don't think I"m going to make it.

I'm inclined to keep my vote where it is.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:43 pm
by Seanzie
Is it bad that I kinda want to vote Zenon?

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:44 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:39 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:36 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:15 pm Yeah, wow. When voting Wilgy the knot in my stomach doesn't feel so bad.

That's a good sign.
Like idk, today has kinda shattered my confidence in this whole game, but everything was feeling just way off, and this feels way better.
I don't know why confidence needs to be shattered

I don't know why everyone this game feels like they need to tear everything down and make everything so gloomy doomy.
You literally came in here calling the threadstate trash, blaming me for it. Then this.

No.

Please step back and consider my perspective for just a little bit here.
The thread state was bad. It's less bad now.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:45 pm
by Epignosis
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:43 pm Is it bad that I kinda want to vote Zenon?
I would join you.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:45 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:43 pm Is it bad that I kinda want to vote Zenon?
No here I'll help

Vote: Zenon

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:46 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

I have a feeling this is going to cause me to go over today, but meh.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:46 pm
by Epignosis
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:43 pm Is it bad that I kinda want to vote Zenon?
No here I'll help

Vote: Zenon
[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:47 pm
by Seanzie
There, now I've officially sussed everyone except Falcon today.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm
by Rem
this zenon wagon is cringe

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:49 pm
by pyxxy
I'm back

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm
by Guillotine
What are you guys doing?

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm
by Epignosis
Rem wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm this zenon wagon is cringe
[VOTE: Rem] aubergine

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:51 pm
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:05 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:35 pm @Zenon

You dont want rem or robyn and i dont want Seanzie.

Say we both agree to compromise in another slot outside of those three.

Whom would be your pick?
Pyxxys town


I'm fine with any of the others my order if preference is

Wilgy > Epi > Falc

Talk to me about those reads plz
Care to join me on WIlgy?

I'm just not feeling Wilgy as Maf here...what are you seeing that I don't?

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:52 pm
by pyxxy
okay so wilgy thinks I'm town telling and I missed an Epi wagon and now everyone is just mad in the thread

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:52 pm
by Guillotine
[VOTE: Rem] aubergine

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:52 pm
by Seanzie
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm What are you guys doing?
Zenon IMO has not actually tried to find me at all. I've tried to reach out to them, but they deflect or find ways to talk past me (at least it feels like it to me).

Also, normally Zenon is uncertain about her scumreads, but here she seems just dead-set on pushing who she wants to push, and shows no hesitation.

I don't have any reason to townread her. Volume? Nah. AtE? Nah. Self-voting? No.

I don't think her reads are good, and if I'm wrong I'd rather know sooner. She actually isn't a bad flip here IMO, even though I do kinda doubt she'll go over.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:52 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Rem wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm this zenon wagon is cringe
It is. They got baited

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:53 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Epi scum bet bet

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:53 pm
by Guillotine
You guys are crazy if you think Zenon's behavior is scum behavior here.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:53 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm
Rem wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm this zenon wagon is cringe
[VOTE: Rem] aubergine
Lol

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Get the flying fuck off Rem

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pm
by pyxxy
Seanzie can doom post about it but I don't think he's going over today

I don't see any reason why four grumpy posts from Epi starting with a wolfy pop-in made that wagon go away

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Holy fuck

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pm
by falcon45ca
Rem wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm this zenon wagon is cringe

What's your case against Guillo?

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Vote Epi

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pm
by Seanzie
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:05 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:35 pm @Zenon

You dont want rem or robyn and i dont want Seanzie.

Say we both agree to compromise in another slot outside of those three.

Whom would be your pick?
Pyxxys town


I'm fine with any of the others my order if preference is

Wilgy > Epi > Falc

Talk to me about those reads plz
Care to join me on WIlgy?

I'm just not feeling Wilgy as Maf here...what are you seeing that I don't?
I'm still kinda stuck on the reason he gave to scumread me (he said he townread me, but Cape scumread me, and tutuu said sheep Zenon and Zenon was voting me. Cape did not actually take a strong stance on me, voting me in the same post saying they didn't feel good about the vote, then moving their vote 3 minutes later), and then how he seems to be exactly doing what he needs to in order to survive, while not doing much else.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:55 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
@Rem please don't die I need you here... for my sanity

Everyone is being so depresso

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:55 pm
by Seanzie
I figured it out.

Y'all a bunch of scummies. Jay isn't actually willing to admit it was his fault for any of the dates.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Honestly the only part of this game that hasn't sucked has been talking to you lol

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Plsss I know you're town

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm
by pyxxy
so people who had or have Rem/Robyn teams

explain why it's +EV for both wolves to miss EOD, in 5 minutes or less 😛

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm
by falcon45ca
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:55 pm @Rem please don't die I need you here... for my sanity

Everyone is being so depresso

Is your read on Rem based off intangibles, or is are there specific things you can point to?

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:57 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:52 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm What are you guys doing?
Zenon IMO has not actually tried to find me at all. I've tried to reach out to them, but they deflect or find ways to talk past me (at least it feels like it to me).

Also, normally Zenon is uncertain about her scumreads, but here she seems just dead-set on pushing who she wants to push, and shows no hesitation.

I don't have any reason to townread her. Volume? Nah. AtE? Nah. Self-voting? No.

I don't think her reads are good, and if I'm wrong I'd rather know sooner. She actually isn't a bad flip here IMO, even though I do kinda doubt she'll go over.
It's really frustrating to be told this when I'm trying

Sorry I don't understand you

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:57 pm
by pyxxy
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:25 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:19 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:17 pm {Wilgy, Rem, Pyxxy, Robyn}
our PoEs align so this is a good thing.
Why are you clearing Epi?
Meta mostly. I do not see the same Epi here that I saw in Turtles (take 2).
I was gonna bother Wilgy about Epi but a meta clear is a meta clear, can't argue with that

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:55 pm @Rem please don't die I need you here... for my sanity

Everyone is being so depresso

Is your read on Rem based off intangibles, or is are there specific things you can point to?
It's based on a simple fact of mafia

Mafia don't act like Rem are and a bunch of other shit I've pointed out already

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm
by Seanzie
pyxxy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm so people who had or have Rem/Robyn teams

explain why it's +EV for both wolves to miss EOD, in 5 minutes or less 😛
I don't think that's necessarily the team, but not showing up to EoD is almost always either NAI or caused by wolves afraid to upset the balance or out themselves. This isn't a +EV or -EV thing (with the exception that sometimes it is actually strategic for wolves to miss EoD)

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm
by Epignosis
See you on the flip side folks.

I did what I could.

Please don't ignore what I've said.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm
by pyxxy
@DrWilgy come make your vote count, big boy 😘

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Like rem's only post this EoD hasn't been to self pres or fight her wagon its been to defends me against my wagon

That's not wolfy

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Vote Rem

No ties this sucks ass

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm
by Epignosis
[VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Now you can have your precious non-depressing personal chat with your friend Rem.

See ya.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm
by Seanzie
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:52 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm What are you guys doing?
Zenon IMO has not actually tried to find me at all. I've tried to reach out to them, but they deflect or find ways to talk past me (at least it feels like it to me).

Also, normally Zenon is uncertain about her scumreads, but here she seems just dead-set on pushing who she wants to push, and shows no hesitation.

I don't have any reason to townread her. Volume? Nah. AtE? Nah. Self-voting? No.

I don't think her reads are good, and if I'm wrong I'd rather know sooner. She actually isn't a bad flip here IMO, even though I do kinda doubt she'll go over.
It's really frustrating to be told this when I'm trying

Sorry I don't understand you
I don't want to frustrate you, so sorry for that, but I am allowed to have opinions about your play that lead make to make conclusions about your alignment.

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm
by pyxxy
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm
pyxxy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm so people who had or have Rem/Robyn teams

explain why it's +EV for both wolves to miss EOD, in 5 minutes or less 😛
I don't think that's necessarily the team, but not showing up to EoD is almost always either NAI or caused by wolves afraid to upset the balance or out themselves. This isn't a +EV or -EV thing (with the exception that sometimes it is actually strategic for wolves to miss EoD)
fair. and I'm posting this literally too early. always time for a wolfy pop-in

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:00 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Now you can have your precious non-depressing personal chat with your friend Rem.

See ya.
Rude as fuck but towny

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:01 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:52 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm What are you guys doing?
Zenon IMO has not actually tried to find me at all. I've tried to reach out to them, but they deflect or find ways to talk past me (at least it feels like it to me).

Also, normally Zenon is uncertain about her scumreads, but here she seems just dead-set on pushing who she wants to push, and shows no hesitation.

I don't have any reason to townread her. Volume? Nah. AtE? Nah. Self-voting? No.

I don't think her reads are good, and if I'm wrong I'd rather know sooner. She actually isn't a bad flip here IMO, even though I do kinda doubt she'll go over.
It's really frustrating to be told this when I'm trying

Sorry I don't understand you
I don't want to frustrate you, so sorry for that, but I am allowed to have opinions about your play that lead make to make conclusions about your alignment.
You are yes but if you are town I know I'm town and I'd like to work together

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:01 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
THREAD LOCKED

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:01 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
THREAD LOCKED

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Rem has been eliminated. She was a bad first date,

Spoiler: show
and it was my fault. Town.

Night 2 will last 24 hours. Flavor is coming soon.