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Re: FTL Mafia [Night 4]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:54 pm
by Epignosis
Spoiler: show
Who is scrappy and scrapworthy?

Poll runs till Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:30 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.
You may select 1 option

JaggedJimmyJay
1
10%


Voters: nutella

Long Con
0
No votes


Voters: None

MacDougall
0
No votes


Voters: None

motobot
0
No votes


Voters: None

Myo
0
No votes


Voters: None

nutella
5
50%


Voters: Myo, sig, MacDougall, JaggedJimmyJay, Sloonei

sig
1
10%


Voters: Long Con

Sloonei
0
No votes


Voters: None

Keith Moon (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
3
30%


Voters: M Plus 7, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Epignosis


Total votes: 10

Re: FTL Mafia [Night 3]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:55 pm
by Epignosis

No need to worry about the feds now...

JaggedJimmyJay has been destroyed. He was the Federation Cruiser.
Spoiler: show
Artillery Beam: On the Day you choose to activate the artillery beam, your base vote will be worth 2. You may only activate it once.


It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:06 pm
by Sloonei
[VOTE: Myo] aubergine

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:15 pm
by MacDougall
Nawww I was enjoying that

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:21 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:06 pm [VOTE: Myo] aubergine
Why

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:33 pm
by nutella
Sigh do I have to be the leader now

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:55 pm
by Sloonei
Never mind. I am voting for [VOTE: Long con] aubergine today.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:56 pm
by Sloonei
MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:06 pm [VOTE: Myo] aubergine
Why
Based on the theory that ted blocked her the night we had no kill.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:28 pm
by nutella
Sloonei wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:55 pm Never mind. I am voting for [VOTE: Long con] aubergine today.
why?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:32 pm
by Sloonei
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:55 pm Never mind. I am voting for [VOTE: Long con] aubergine today.
why?
His name is two words. Everybody else’s name is one word. Something’s not right about this.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:37 pm
by nutella
damn that's some real incontrovertible evidence there.

k

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:37 pm
by nutella
[VOTE: myo] aubergine

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:37 pm
by nutella
Mac your turn for a "why"

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:18 pm
by Long Con
Wow, I got blasted with four attacks last night. Makes Sloonei's crap vote on me look really bad, since I have extra votes today.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:19 pm
by Long Con
Myo and Sloonei are far and away my main suspects as the last two wolves.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:33 pm
by MacDougall
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:37 pm Mac your turn for a "why"
So I went to change my scrap vote from you to myself but somehow because it was now day the votamadood votes for Motobot and I uh left it there because science.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:37 pm
by nutella
Long Con wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:18 pm Wow, I got blasted with four attacks last night. Makes Sloonei's crap vote on me look really bad, since I have extra votes today.
huh

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:39 pm
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:37 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:18 pm Wow, I got blasted with four attacks last night. Makes Sloonei's crap vote on me look really bad, since I have extra votes today.
huh
I GOT BLASTED WITH FOUR ATTACKS LAST NIGHT

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:52 pm
by nutella
ok

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:54 pm
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:52 pmok
Let's assume you believe me. Do you see why that implicates Sloonei?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:03 pm
by nutella
Long Con wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:54 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:52 pmok
Let's assume you believe me. Do you see why that implicates Sloonei?
not necessarily based on a particular assumption I made

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:04 pm
by Sloonei
Long Con wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:39 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:37 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:18 pm Wow, I got blasted with four attacks last night. Makes Sloonei's crap vote on me look really bad, since I have extra votes today.
huh
I GOT BLASTED WITH FOUR ATTACKS LAST NIGHT
I don’t know what this means, but I believe you.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:07 pm
by Sloonei
I struggle to envision a world where myo is town.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:15 pm
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:03 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:54 pm
nutella wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:52 pmok
Let's assume you believe me. Do you see why that implicates Sloonei?
not necessarily based on a particular assumption I made
A secret assumption?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:15 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:07 pm I struggle to envision a world where myo is town.
Yeah.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am
by Long Con
One thing about Myo is that she's never even denied or addressed the idea that tedxtr blocked her kill on night 2. Absolute radio silence on that, the most damning piece of evidence in the entire game. That is very incriminating. [VOTE: myo] aubergine

Let's shorten this day.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:46 am
by Long Con
I know I'm not the only one who got hit last night with something. Who else got hit?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:30 am
by Myo
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am One thing about Myo is that she's never even denied or addressed the idea that tedxtr blocked her kill on night 2. Absolute radio silence on that, the most damning piece of evidence in the entire game. That is very incriminating. [VOTE: myo] aubergine

Let's shorten this day.
Ummm, I’ve not said anything because the rules state that you cannot reveal information. I assume this extends to revealing any PMs or lack of PMs from the host regarding being the target of actions.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:09 pm
by Long Con
Myo wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:30 am
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am One thing about Myo is that she's never even denied or addressed the idea that tedxtr blocked her kill on night 2. Absolute radio silence on that, the most damning piece of evidence in the entire game. That is very incriminating. [VOTE: myo] aubergine

Let's shorten this day.
Ummm, I’ve not said anything because the rules state that you cannot reveal information. I assume this extends to revealing any PMs or lack of PMs from the host regarding being the target of actions.
You can say "I don't know if ted targeted me or not, but I didn't target anyone that night with anything. Some other force must have stopped the kill." Or "I know people suspect me because of ted's reveal, and I can't prove to you that it wasn't me, but here are some other explanations as to why the kill might have failed."

Instead, you haven't even acknowledged the issue. That looks bad to me.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:15 pm
by Sloonei
To be fair, I would not be surprised if the rule against info-dumping is not completely new to Myo (not many sites play with that rule in place). So I can understand and sympathize with a hesitance to talk about it. I don't view that as a point for or against her in any way.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:20 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:15 pm To be fair, I would not be surprised if the rule against info-dumping is not completely new to Myo (not many sites play with that rule in place). So I can understand and sympathize with a hesitance to talk about it. I don't view that as a point for or against her in any way.
View it as moot, because the vote goes to Myo today either way.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:15 pm To be fair, I would not be surprised if the rule against info-dumping is not completely new to Myo (not many sites play with that rule in place). So I can understand and sympathize with a hesitance to talk about it.
NOT TO MENTION that that point itself, if applicable, is the most incriminating thing out there against Myo.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:23 pm
by Sloonei
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:15 pm To be fair, I would not be surprised if the rule against info-dumping is not completely new to Myo (not many sites play with that rule in place). So I can understand and sympathize with a hesitance to talk about it.
NOT TO MENTION that that point itself, if applicable, is the most incriminating thing out there against Myo.
yes. "Myo was roleblocked" is the closest thing to substantial evidence we collectively have to go off of.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:27 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:23 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:15 pm To be fair, I would not be surprised if the rule against info-dumping is not completely new to Myo (not many sites play with that rule in place). So I can understand and sympathize with a hesitance to talk about it.
NOT TO MENTION that that point itself, if applicable, is the most incriminating thing out there against Myo.
yes. "Myo was roleblocked" is the closest thing to substantial evidence we collectively have to go off of.
Not what I meant.

What I meant is, that if Myo thought she couldn't discuss information she knew (such as "Myo tried to kill someone and was blocked on night 2"), then the lack of discussion is extremely incriminating. If it weren't true, then there would be no prohibition against discussing it.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:28 pm
by Sloonei
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:23 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:15 pm To be fair, I would not be surprised if the rule against info-dumping is not completely new to Myo (not many sites play with that rule in place). So I can understand and sympathize with a hesitance to talk about it.
NOT TO MENTION that that point itself, if applicable, is the most incriminating thing out there against Myo.
yes. "Myo was roleblocked" is the closest thing to substantial evidence we collectively have to go off of.
Not what I meant.

What I meant is, that if Myo thought she couldn't discuss information she knew (such as "Myo tried to kill someone and was blocked on night 2"), then the lack of discussion is extremely incriminating. If it weren't true, then there would be no prohibition against discussing it.
this feels too close to a gray area for me.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:30 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:28 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:27 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:23 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:15 pm To be fair, I would not be surprised if the rule against info-dumping is not completely new to Myo (not many sites play with that rule in place). So I can understand and sympathize with a hesitance to talk about it.
NOT TO MENTION that that point itself, if applicable, is the most incriminating thing out there against Myo.
yes. "Myo was roleblocked" is the closest thing to substantial evidence we collectively have to go off of.
Not what I meant.

What I meant is, that if Myo thought she couldn't discuss information she knew (such as "Myo tried to kill someone and was blocked on night 2"), then the lack of discussion is extremely incriminating. If it weren't true, then there would be no prohibition against discussing it.
this feels too close to a gray area for me.
Then let's dial it back and call it moot again, and lynch her for the formally proper reasons. :noble:

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:07 pm
by Myo
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 2:09 pm
Myo wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:30 am
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am One thing about Myo is that she's never even denied or addressed the idea that tedxtr blocked her kill on night 2. Absolute radio silence on that, the most damning piece of evidence in the entire game. That is very incriminating. [VOTE: myo] aubergine

Let's shorten this day.
Ummm, I’ve not said anything because the rules state that you cannot reveal information. I assume this extends to revealing any PMs or lack of PMs from the host regarding being the target of actions.
You can say "I don't know if ted targeted me or not, but I didn't target anyone that night with anything. Some other force must have stopped the kill." Or "I know people suspect me because of ted's reveal, and I can't prove to you that it wasn't me, but here are some other explanations as to why the kill might have failed."

Instead, you haven't even acknowledged the issue. That looks bad to me.
I’m actually totally lost with the point you’re trying to make here. My interpretation of the rule was that I was not allowed to discuss at all, if I had or had not received any sort of PM from the host. Like theorising vaguely about items/roles is okay, but actively discussing with any additional info that you have (in my case, that I didn't receive any sort of message informing me that I was jailed or doctor saved) it is not. Hence, why I didn’t respond, since I thought it constituted rulebreaking as I wouldn't be vaguely theorising but actually revealing information.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:23 pm
by Sloonei
Why is Long Con town?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:20 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:23 pm Why is Long Con town?
Tone, mostly. And good Mafia instincts by those that read me as town. :shrug2:

I guess most people accept this as a Myo-lynching day. sig and motobot still need to vote. Mac may move his vote as well. Maybe it's Long Con day!

No one has answered my question about getting attacked last night. I bet [mention]sig[/mention] got attacked. And someone else.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:06 pm
by motobot
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am One thing about Myo is that she's never even denied or addressed the idea that tedxtr blocked her kill on night 2. Absolute radio silence on that, the most damning piece of evidence in the entire game. That is very incriminating. [VOTE: myo] aubergine

Let's shorten this day.
That actually makes sense.

[VOTE: Myo] aubergine

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:11 pm
by motobot
I didn't get attacked last night. :workit:

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:15 pm
by Sloonei
[mention]MacDougall[/mention] vote for myo please

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:30 pm
by nutella
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:03 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:15 pm @MacDougall vote for myo please
Myo seems likely to be a bad lynch fmpov.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:06 pm
by Sloonei
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:15 pm @MacDougall vote for myo please
Myo seems likely to be a bad lynch fmpov.
Why?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:13 pm
by MacDougall
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:15 pm @MacDougall vote for myo please
Myo seems likely to be a bad lynch fmpov.
Why?
Same reason I thought Jiwon was a bad lynch. Too easy. No opposition to it. Too obvious. All that stuff.

I think if anyone profiles as the busy bee mafia it's LC here.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:22 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:15 pm @MacDougall vote for myo please
Myo seems likely to be a bad lynch fmpov.
Why?
Same reason I thought Jiwon was a bad lynch. Too easy. No opposition to it. Too obvious. All that stuff.

I think if anyone profiles as the busy bee mafia it's LC here.
Never heard of busy bee mafia. Did you just make that up?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:30 pm
by Myo
motobot wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:06 pm
Long Con wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 am One thing about Myo is that she's never even denied or addressed the idea that tedxtr blocked her kill on night 2. Absolute radio silence on that, the most damning piece of evidence in the entire game. That is very incriminating. [VOTE: myo] aubergine

Let's shorten this day.
That actually makes sense.

[VOTE: Myo] aubergine
It does not make sense re: my interpretation of the no sharing information rule. I’m on mobile so have no clue how to multilink comments but it should only be a few comments above.

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:31 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:15 pm @MacDougall vote for myo please
Myo seems likely to be a bad lynch fmpov.
Why?
Same reason I thought Jiwon was a bad lynch. Too easy. No opposition to it.
You mean, aside from the three players who are voting to lynch someone else?

Re: FTL Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:34 pm
by Long Con
sig has not been on since Sunday morning. More than 48 hours. So looks like this is it.

Do we know what Epi does for ties? I didn't see it in the Rules.