Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

[leetic]

i have gotten the impression that jagged is struggling to make more holistically focused posts - he posts a lot of observations that generally Sound Good, but i am finding it more difficult than usual to see how those observations inform and shape his worldview, and i feel like i am unable to see the gears moving in his brain in a similar way that ive seen them move in previous games. when im a wolf, i know that i struggle to make posts with a "wide" scope, and i have theorized that jagged is a wolf going through a similar struggle. i don't think he's the most optimal d1 chop, though

I've been seeing a bit of hedginess from you, too - can you give me a list of reads you feel confident on?

[cassandra]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

tbh this has felt the best.

[Marmot]

i have gotten the impression that jagged is struggling to make more holistically focused posts - he posts a lot of observations that generally Sound Good, but i am finding it more difficult than usual to see how those observations inform and shape his worldview, and i feel like i am unable to see the gears moving in his brain in a similar way that ive seen them move in previous games. when im a wolf, i know that i struggle to make posts with a "wide" scope, and i have theorized that jagged is a wolf going through a similar struggle. i don't think he's the most optimal d1 chop, though

I'd flashwagon JJJ today.

[Lime Coke]

Wanting of flipping Anne. Ising trusting of Nutella.

If Anne flips green can you shoot Nutella?

[leetic]

don't vote MR imo

Why not? Better shot than Anne in my estimation

[nutella]

if falcon/mac are town/town then i am sort of skeptical of nutella/jay in particular

anne being w clears nutella in my worldview tho, i just personally dont currently think anne is w (open to being wrong tho)

i have no real scum reads so yeah don't ask me for that and generally don't feel motivated

ngl this game is kinda bad, not feeling it

im also not having fun in this thread although it may seem like it, i think the vibe is uncomfortable to be fully honest. i feel compelled to post though because early day 1 is the easiest time to for me

idk i just read these as the real town version

also her mild suspicion of spf into dropping it felt sorta real

and the way she just stopped playing at 3 townreads and sheeping us onto naa felt real

ive seen demotivated scum anne (in jack town) and it looked different iirc

its a pretty low confidence townread and like anne flipping wouldnt be the end of the world and her flipping red would be a boon to town but

personally i still find naa less towny?

idk how to read naa tbh

I'm busy and I don't really feel like moving, the vague townvibes I get from Anne/Mr make me wanna stay on NAA but I'm honestly ok with any flip and I don't feel too strongly.

gl team (will still be sort of here but heavily distracted)

oh also in case I forgot to say this by eod

nk me I'll flip vanilla it'll be hilarious

Idk maybe I'm crazy but lol

[Marmot]

im mafia uwu

Never mind, flashwagoning spf instead

[cassandra]

don't vote MR imo

Why not? Better shot than Anne in my estimation

i thought his opening posts were towny

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

[ilario]

Wanting of flipping Anne. Ising trusting of Nutella.

If it’s between u and Anne I’m picking u to die lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay

[ilario]

Alexa don’t waste ur vote


I don’t disagree with it but there’s no chance he’s going over today

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Vlte sloonei

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Now sheep me

[leetic]

Of all the players who are being excessively hedgy nutella worries me the most. Town nutella often provides an extremely confident demeanor, even on reads she is dead wrong on.

[Lime Coke]

If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay

What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?

[staypositivefriend]

i have gotten the impression that jagged is struggling to make more holistically focused posts - he posts a lot of observations that generally Sound Good, but i am finding it more difficult than usual to see how those observations inform and shape his worldview, and i feel like i am unable to see the gears moving in his brain in a similar way that ive seen them move in previous games. when im a wolf, i know that i struggle to make posts with a "wide" scope, and i have theorized that jagged is a wolf going through a similar struggle. i don't think he's the most optimal d1 chop, though

I've been seeing a bit of hedginess from you, too - can you give me a list of reads you feel confident on?

yes. i think that you, illario, cassandra, marmot, and lime coke are all villagers.

i think that nutella, falcon, and iaafr are also villagers with slightly less confidence. (if there's a wolf in there, it's probably iaafr.) i'm hedging because i'm making a point to talk specifically about the players that i don't have a good grasp on

[Lime Coke]

Oh that's what you meant.

[Marmot]

if falcon/mac are town/town then i am sort of skeptical of nutella/jay in particular

anne being w clears nutella in my worldview tho, i just personally dont currently think anne is w (open to being wrong tho)

i have no real scum reads so yeah don't ask me for that and generally don't feel motivated

ngl this game is kinda bad, not feeling it

im also not having fun in this thread although it may seem like it, i think the vibe is uncomfortable to be fully honest. i feel compelled to post though because early day 1 is the easiest time to for me

idk i just read these as the real town version

also her mild suspicion of spf into dropping it felt sorta real

and the way she just stopped playing at 3 townreads and sheeping us onto naa felt real

ive seen demotivated scum anne (in jack town) and it looked different iirc

its a pretty low confidence townread and like anne flipping wouldnt be the end of the world and her flipping red would be a boon to town but

personally i still find naa less towny?

idk how to read naa tbh

I'm busy and I don't really feel like moving, the vague townvibes I get from Anne/Mr make me wanna stay on NAA but I'm honestly ok with any flip and I don't feel too strongly.

gl team (will still be sort of here but heavily distracted)

oh also in case I forgot to say this by eod

nk me I'll flip vanilla it'll be hilarious

Idk maybe I'm crazy but lol

Thanks for pointing that out, the second post jumped out to me when I read it, but I forgot about it in the turbulence.

I'd also rather vote iaafr than Anne under those circumstances.

[ilario]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

[ilario]

I hope I get nightkilled

[cassandra]

TOWN:
ilario/leetic
iaafr
Lime Coke
Marmot
nutella
SPF

LIGHT TOWN:
NOOK
Dyslexicon
MR

POE:
falcon (barring mech stuff??)
Mac
JJJ
Sloonei
DrWilgy
NAA

idk where to put anne tbh.

[leetic]

Vlte sloonei

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay

What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?

If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy

[cassandra]

Alexa don’t waste ur vote


I don’t disagree with it but there’s no chance he’s going over today

fine

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: MR] aubergine

Blehhhh

[Marmot]

Of all the players who are being excessively hedgy nutella worries me the most. Town nutella often provides an extremely confident demeanor, even on reads she is dead wrong on.

Did you post this before or after nutella's case on iaafr/anne?

[nutella]

I mean also just alexas restatement of the meta stuff and annes look at me im town posts solidify my vote

[iaafr]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you

mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery

youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better

[Lime Coke]

If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay

What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?

If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy

I was talking Wilgy claimed vig.

[cassandra]

dude the CWs rn are anne and MR though wtf.

[leetic]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

You weren't there for his scummiest moments but looking at Marmot's post is a start

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Vlte sloonei

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules

[iaafr]

you know the mr wagon formed like in response to a marmot case right?

its not just a shrug

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay

What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?

If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy

I was talking Wilgy claimed vig.

Oh sorry budget jay is sloon lol

[leetic]

Of all the players who are being excessively hedgy nutella worries me the most. Town nutella often provides an extremely confident demeanor, even on reads she is dead wrong on.

Did you post this before or after nutella's case on iaafr/anne?

After, but it's a general feeling I've been having throughout today

[cassandra]

[VOTE: DRWILGY] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

If we're gonna flash wagon someone it should be budget jay not actual jay

What if budget Jay claimed 1 shot vig?

If sloon claimed one shot vig I'd go back to wilgy

I was talking Wilgy claimed vig.

Oh sorry budget jay is sloon lol

Yeah I didn't realize what you were talking about lmao.

[cassandra]

you know the mr wagon formed like in response to a marmot case right?

its not just a shrug

can someone quote this

[ilario]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you

mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery

youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better

Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people

[leetic]

Vlte sloonei

Not the biggest fan of Sloonei's contributions and he has partner equity with MR but should we really vote an inactive? That is never a good idea D1

Woops, you have different ideas about playing mafia, now I gotta kill you. Sorry bud, those are the rules

Don't be a smart ass, answer my questions

Why would you think a vote on an inactive is optimal for today?

[iaafr]

maybe i just flip anne so that i get to tdome nutella tomorrow if anne's actually w

[Lime Coke]

Can people look over these MR posts with me? I think this is a wolf.

Mac's story doesn't feel like a lie? When mafia lie about mechanics they tend to either keep it simple ('I'm a cop') or overly complex ('I'm a cop on Nights that fall within the fibonacci sequence but I only get a result if its a 3P who has activated their ability and I get a double cop on N1'). Mac's story is specific in a different way ('after 26 hours I got fed up and used it') that is unlikely to be fabricated.

Or it is just a clever lie I guess, which is also a possibility because uh we're starting to reach peak 'confirmed town' in a game that's supposedly not bastard, so I can only imagine the power Mafia have here.

This is MR's response to Mac/falcon's claim. He immediately followed it up with a vote for Anne.

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

How is Anne better than NAA? In what ways is Anne scummy to you?

Dunno but I'm sure I'll think of reasons eventually.

I don't like any of the current wagons. I didn't intend to sit on my vanity wagon but I may just do it anyway.

This is a lazy read for someone who has been putting forth some effort. 42 posts thus far. The timing of it with Mac's claim, the lack of reasoning behind it (even up to this point), and given that he's interacted with several other players since, I'm surprised his vote is still here.

@cassandra

[leetic]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you

mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery

youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better

Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people

Can you show his two supposedly towny posts?

[staypositivefriend]

who do u wanna kill, illario?

[ilario]

Okay yeah I didn’t see marmots case tbh but idk man I just don’t like voting people who aren’t around to defend themselves

[iaafr]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you

mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery

youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better

Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people

can you list your pool of never-towntold-in-your-eyes players? im sure its in your iso but navigating on this sites kind of annoying

[leetic]

maybe i just flip anne so that i get to tdome nutella tomorrow if anne's actually w

Do you think Anne's scummy?

[ilario]

who do u wanna kill, illario?

Wilgy for the gimmick and I don’t like his reads

Jjj for scummy votes

[Lime Coke]

Wtf how is MR a wagon too? Bro what is this town

i kinda get you but at the same time i dont really get you

mr has posted some wolfy stuff and mainly it was his entrance + random theory arguments + attitude that felt villagery

youre struggling with forming wolfreads too so idk how you act like youre better

Yes I’m struggling too but I’m not voting people who projected actual towniness. Yes it’s true he only had 2 towny posts buts that’s still 2 more towny posts than a lot of people

I'm voting people who aren't in my town list so yeah.