The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:01 am

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:26 am I'm having a very severe mental struggle. Vote me if you need to, but I won't be posting for a while

I'm sorry you're struggling, and I'm sorry I suspected you for it earlier. I don't suspect you, so I won't be voting you.

Can someone link me to the case on sig? I would prefer not to make a totally uninformed vote, which would be unfair to sig, the other players and the host. But not sure how much time I'll have today, and I'll be getting home from work less than an hour before EOD.

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these are my two most significant points, beyond that i don't really have anythign to add because...he hasn't done anything? he's basically just given up and posted some weak emotional appeals about people misreading him, not actual attempts to solve in a meningful way despite the game slowing down massively

Well this has been an exciting day.

Indubitably... but like not really

This wagon being this strong and never changing is making me very very anxious

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 3:00 pm This wagon being this strong and never changing is making me very very anxious

Agreed, but it is easy for wolves to fake DADV, so I try to ignore these sorts of nerves.

I... usually do but it's creeping me out more than normal

I put out some talking points but they were not worth talking about I guess

Meh the last few games I played with bad sig, he went down fighting. So imma go with my only real suspish instead, which is really only meta based, but Lucys lack of trying to control the thread weirds me out.

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

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Day 4

A loud scream pierced the air, "Let go of me! What do you think you're doing!?"

"You will let me go," Blushweaver yelled, but her attacker only tightened their grip on her arm. She struggled to break free, but their strength was too much for her.

"Who are you? I am a goddess! What do you want from me?" she demanded, fear and anger making her voice tremble.

The assailant didn't answer, but instead raised their club high above their head, ready to strike. Blushweaver braced herself for the blow.

CRACK.

Her blood stained and made a mess of her beautiful hair.

Seanzie has been yeeted in the night.

Seanzie was: Blushweaver - The epitome of beauty and often seen in revealing gowns of green and silver, Blushweaver sees herself as the goddess of love and romance. She is determined to see Hallandren improve and takes her role role as a god seriously.

A Vanilla Civilian.

It is now Day 4, you have 48 hours. Poll and breath counts will be up shortly.

How unfortunate.

Anyway, I now think it is Gira and Neon.

what the fuck we can’t sleep?????

fuck

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:39 pm How unfortunate.

Anyway, I now think it is Gira and Neon.

i think gira and you or svs

wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

S~V~S = spf?

Honestly I have a pretty stupid reason to wolfread both Gira and Neon.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:58 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

S~V~S = spf?

yeah

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:58 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

S~V~S = spf?

yeah

Huh I didn't know S~V~S was spf.

i talk to spf a lot more

what’s ur dumb reasons for neon/gira

I have no idea how but I got the insight last night lol

Gira and Sean had no breaths

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:03 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:58 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

S~V~S = spf?

yeah

Huh I didn't know S~V~S was spf.

that's not spf

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:17 pm I have no idea how but I got the insight last night lol

Gira and Sean had no breaths

i passed off my breaths to you because holding on to them was useless to me

what r ur reads gira

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

why am i a "sure hit"?

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:45 pm what r ur reads gira

i don't really know

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:46 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

why am i a "sure hit"?

cause ur alive

and falcon is only dead wolf

and sig was town

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:47 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:46 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:57 pm wait no

gira/doom most likely

i have a reason to tr everyone but gira/doom/spf

but gira probs the sure hit

why am i a "sure hit"?

cause ur alive

i barely play on syndicate so there's very little reason for me to be a priority NK target, especially if my reads aren't good

and in general you're holding me to a standard that isn't remotely in line with my actual play

aren’t you supposed to be INSANELY good though

like is this not inaccurate?

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:51 pm aren’t you supposed to be INSANELY good though

people have that perception of me but it's mostly inaccurate. it wasn't true a decade ago when i was at my best and it certainly isn't true now.

i win something like 40% of my games in longform mafia. pretty bad at it actually. (i'm okay at turbos)

people just remember my occasional good games and forget all the ones where i play badly (and often in the good ones i'm sponging reads from someone better than me)


but regardless even if that was true or not, i think holing someone to the standard of "wrong once, therefore mafia" is exceptionally unfair. i think in general the ceiling for read rate is a lot lower than people think it is. but regardless, no one has a 100% read rate, that's for certain. even the best players are going to be wrong sometimes. i've had...1 major push this game that i got flipped, and it was wrong. it happens, it doesn't make me scum, it's just a normal outcome based on probability.


if you wanted to argue i should have been able to find sig as town, and that me not doing so makes me scum, i would counter with...how the hell was i supposed to realize he was town when he did basically nothing to counter my perception?

(i think 'player x should have been reading their push as town' is often a valid heuristic but it's far from 100%, sometimes people end up in weird tunnels)

idk whether that’s a wolf claim or a town tell

ughhh

i should’ve paid more attention to this game fuck

i want to say neon is just town based on not having a breath d3 but my concern is i was left alive because my reads probably suck really bad

i should iso neon but early game i was certain she was town

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:05 pm idk whether that’s a wolf claim or a town tell

it's NAI i can emopost as scum and it's stuff i absolutely believe to be true

but the sig push i did really believe in and you have to assess my motivation over the results

hmmmm i don’t think u could’ve faked that mindmeld

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:10 pm hmmmm i don’t think u could’ve faked that mindmeld

thinking about neon that is

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:08 pm i should iso neon but early game i was certain she was town

i think having given away her breaths is >rand town i'm just reluctant to bet the game on that

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:10 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:05 pm idk whether that’s a wolf claim or a town tell

it's NAI i can emopost as scum and it's stuff i absolutely believe to be true

but the sig push i did really believe in and you have to assess my motivation over the results

validity of solving is what i will solve you for

which is why i’m either gonna vote you or your top wolf read

unless i decide to vote doom or something

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:10 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:10 pm hmmmm i don’t think u could’ve faked that mindmeld

thinking about neon that is

i think it's pretty coincidental given it's not really prompted by anything in thread

i am town but not because of that

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:35 pm Meh the last few games I played with bad sig, he went down fighting. So imma go with my only real suspish instead, which is really only meta based, but Lucys lack of trying to control the thread weirds me out.

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

this read is probably informed

why is creature alive?

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:13 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:35 pm Meh the last few games I played with bad sig, he went down fighting. So imma go with my only real suspish instead, which is really only meta based, but Lucys lack of trying to control the thread weirds me out.

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

this read is probably informed

informed as in accurate or just more meta