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Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean obviously its not a proper hydra, but its basically a hydra

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm
by staypositivefriend
i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm
by iaafr
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?
Yeah, did you explain why you don't:
he was just describing the functionality with the word hydra, which is a word that independently popped into my head as well


also your accusation of it coming from mafia btsc doesn't even make sense because why would the host talk about your role in mafia btsc in the first place

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm
by cassandra
so essentially what happened between Mac and falcon was that they had one cop check to use on the other and Mac used it on falcon before falcon could use it on Mac?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm
by NotAnAxehole
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm i'm still a little offput by how fast the wagon on Anne grew, though, especially when 3/5 on the wagon i have in my POE and she was getting townread earlier

i dunno, i probably won't vote her today
I think the main takeaway I have is that everyone who can read me is not on my wagon, so it would stand to reason for me, that any counter wagon would grow quickly in order to avoid an obvious mischop.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by nutella
Yeah I'm happy staying on anne i think

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by iaafr
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet
naa's open survivalism does not feel like the town version, least not one I've ever seen

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?
Yeah, did you explain why you don't:
he was just describing the functionality with the word hydra, which is a word that independently popped into my head as well


also your accusation of it coming from mafia btsc doesn't even make sense because why would the host talk about your role in mafia btsc in the first place
Plus one

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by leetic
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:15 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?
Yeah, did you explain why you don't:
...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.
Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by ilario
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:41 pm Anne is pretty much a black hole for me as a read. My response to the wagon is essentially: “okay”
jjj feels content with any wagon thats not him i feel

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by cassandra
ugh let me read NAA's iso quickly

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by NotAnAxehole
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet
naa's open survivalism does not feel like the town version, least not one I've ever seen
We've never agreed on mafia ideas in our few games together.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
by DrWilgy
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:09 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:06 pm People who refuse to engage with people are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at LyLo with any of them
People who want to kill people for not playing how they want them to are always a good idea to get out of the way early. I don't want to be stuck at kilo with any of them.
Why would someone even play a social game like Mafia if they refuse to engage with people? That is my question
Ising the engagement. Notting of your liking though.

Notting of the trying of reading yet. Wasing of your crying instead.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
by iaafr
if falcon weren't greened I'd be considering voting him strongly lmao

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
by leetic
nutella wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm Yeah I'm happy staying on anne i think
What are your thoughts on Axehole, Wilgy, and MR?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
by cassandra
[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

actually yeah let's do this for now

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:15 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?
Yeah, did you explain why you don't:
...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.
Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin
Why do you think that mafia would have tmi of your role

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
by Lime Coke
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm if falcon weren't greened I'd be considering voting him strongly lmao
Low key feeling the same way here.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
by NotAnAxehole
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

actually yeah let's do this for now
I don't hate the idea, but I don't think it's happening and I don't think it's a good kill for today.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
by cassandra
if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
by leetic
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:15 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?
Yeah, did you explain why you don't:
...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.
Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin
Why do you think that mafia would have tmi of your role
They have access to wolfchat, and someone might have asked the host why two people are sharing a slot

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
by NotAnAxehole
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game
Last game was bastard.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
by Lime Coke
[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Science

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
by staypositivefriend
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:16 pm i am not asking this facetiously: does anybody have any reasons to scumread anne or notanaxehole that don't boil down to: "They Aren't Towny"? if reasons have been posted in the last few pages, then i haven't gotten to see them yet
naa's open survivalism does not feel like the town version, least not one I've ever seen
he feels less chaotic than the one towngame ive seen from him, but i think that might be because it seems like he took what illario said about him toward the beginning of the game to heart regardless of his alignment, and seems to have been playing w/the criticisms against his play in mind. im not sure that him acting different is scummy within itself, cause i think the circumstances of this game mean that he would act differently regardless of his alignment

and if i cast that aside, i dont really take any issue with his posts? it's true that he isn't towny, so he could be mafia, but i'm just looking for something more

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
by ilario
wtf anne isnnt even here and u guys are voting her
\
unvote

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
by cassandra
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game
Last game was bastard.
why does that matter?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
by ilario
@nutella dont vote anne

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
by Lime Coke
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game
Last game was bastard.
Bastard or not, you literally poisoned the player that was obvious town.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by staypositivefriend
@Sloonei - if you're available, it would be really helpful to hear any snaptakes on jagged that you have

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by NotAnAxehole
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game
Last game was bastard.
why does that matter?
Bastard roles lead to different playstyles. *shrug* I can't claim Jester in a non-bastard game.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by ilario
Yeah naa is way more talkative this eod

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by cassandra
actually i think i'd rather vote Wilgy than NAA between those 2 looking at this iso, idk

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by leetic
ilario wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm wtf anne isnnt even here and u guys are voting her
\
unvote
Yeah, that's another issue I have with the wagon. It came from nowhere and does not appear to have risen organically.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by iaafr
[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

doesn't feel great but idk

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by DrWilgy
Ising the driving for Holiday now.

Notting the comfort of Falcon vote. Ising the avoiding of Anne.

Ising the low hanging fruit. Notting of SPF; the others Lazy.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm
by cassandra
ilario wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm Yeah naa is way more talkative this eod
he capped early tho

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:22 pm
by staypositivefriend
unfortunately i have also reached the conclusion that jagged might be a wolf, but not sure if i want to go there on d1

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:22 pm
by cassandra
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm Ising the driving for Holiday now.

Notting the comfort of Falcon vote. Ising the avoiding of Anne.

Ising the low hanging fruit. Notting of SPF; the others Lazy.
idg why you're not making any sense when you made completely sense and spoke actual english last game

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:18 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:15 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:14 pm Did leetic ever explain how in the hell he thought I might have tmi on his role?
Yeah, did you explain why you don't:
...

You're two people sharing one slot, that's a hydra.
Hydras usually refer to a singular account, a setup like this is rare enough that I find it weird you would immediately call it a Hydra. If you show me precident for something like this though, I'll drop that poin
Why do you think that mafia would have tmi of your role
They have access to wolfchat, and someone might have asked the host why two people are sharing a slot
And you think the host would tell them "oh sure here's their role pm" ??????

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm
by NotAnAxehole
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game
Last game was bastard.
Bastard or not, you literally poisoned the player that was obvious town.
Oh well, if I opened the day saying I poisoned JoH, they would have said I poisoned an obvious town *shrug*. Bastard game, I was in the drivers seat due to having the PR and I was wrong... I had the potential teams right, but my evaluation of the bastard mechanic and how I tried to identify it was wrong.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm
by Lime Coke
[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm
by cassandra
JJJ hasn't rolled wolf in 5 years and suddenly has a game where he seems so completely different than his previous games?

idk, seems odd.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm
by leetic
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:21 pm Ising the driving for Holiday now.

Notting the comfort of Falcon vote. Ising the avoiding of Anne.

Ising the low hanging fruit. Notting of SPF; the others Lazy.
Aring the acting of scummy.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm
by iaafr
jay/nutella/wilgy/x teams on the mind

big shrug

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm
by Marmot
Can people look over these MR posts with me? I think this is a wolf.

Master Radishes wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:01 am Mac's story doesn't feel like a lie? When mafia lie about mechanics they tend to either keep it simple ('I'm a cop') or overly complex ('I'm a cop on Nights that fall within the fibonacci sequence but I only get a result if its a 3P who has activated their ability and I get a double cop on N1'). Mac's story is specific in a different way ('after 26 hours I got fed up and used it') that is unlikely to be fabricated.

Or it is just a clever lie I guess, which is also a possibility because uh we're starting to reach peak 'confirmed town' in a game that's supposedly not bastard, so I can only imagine the power Mafia have here.

This is MR's response to Mac/falcon's claim. He immediately followed it up with a vote for Anne.

Master Radishes wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:04 am [VOTE: Anne] aubergine
Master Radishes wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:57 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:30 pm How is Anne better than NAA? In what ways is Anne scummy to you?
Dunno but I'm sure I'll think of reasons eventually.
Master Radishes wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:39 pm I don't like any of the current wagons. I didn't intend to sit on my vanity wagon but I may just do it anyway.

This is a lazy read for someone who has been putting forth some effort. 42 posts thus far. The timing of it with Mac's claim, the lack of reasoning behind it (even up to this point), and given that he's interacted with several other players since, I'm surprised his vote is still here.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm
by Lime Coke
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:20 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:19 pm if JJJ is maf i'm locktowning SPF for making me realize i shouldn't vote NAA because i can't think of concrete reasons other than him not being as extra as last game
Last game was bastard.
Bastard or not, you literally poisoned the player that was obvious town.
Oh well, if I opened the day saying I poisoned JoH, they would have said I poisoned an obvious town *shrug*. Bastard game, I was in the drivers seat due to having the PR and I was wrong... I had the potential teams right, but my evaluation of the bastard mechanic and how I tried to identify it was wrong.
JoH wasn't obvious town at fucking all he barely did anything.

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm
by leetic
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm JJJ hasn't rolled wolf in 5 years and suddenly has a game where he seems so completely different than his previous games?

idk, seems odd.
He's roled wolf on Bulbagarden circa 2019, and I believe he mentioned having a wolf game after that?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm
by cassandra
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm jay/nutella/wilgy/x teams on the mind

big shrug
why nutella?

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
cassandra wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm JJJ hasn't rolled wolf in 5 years and suddenly has a game where he seems so completely different than his previous games?

idk, seems odd.
Is this a meme

Re: Philosophy Mafia 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm
by Lime Coke
iaafr wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:23 pm jay/nutella/wilgy/x teams on the mind

big shrug
You...could be onto something here.