The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:20 am**

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:34 pm
Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:33 pm
Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:10 pm idk why we don't just get rid of Burns here

been pushing villagers all game, doesn't reconsider at all

progression on Gramps slimy af
What world would you look at depending on his flip?
if it's villager, Alison / Otto / +1

if it's wolf, Gramps / Burns / +1

Starting at this post, and the next of Marge, there is a solid accusation against Alison.
Also Otto mentioned in the Poe is worth a brainstorming bigger that the GTH.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:23 am**

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:16 am
Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:13 am Who is the lock town?
I assume Skinner

I don't think wolves have a reason to make WIFOM kills at this stage in the game so Krusty probably just town for not killing Skinner.

can't make up my mind on whether or not gramps is scummy for taking aim at me after marge's death or townie for giving enough of a shit to even make a push

Everyone marge said was town has flipped town so I guess I'm just going to trust her read on you. if you outplayed all of us so be it I guess and we don't have enough misexes to get there on you anyway.

You know isn't it that the question was for Burns, why do you answer before him and distract my attention suggesting him an answer?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:28 am**

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:13 am
Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:47 pm There's a lock town, and the wolves NK my suspects.

Disrespectful.
Who is the lock town?

Sorry Lisa, RIP, i didn't realise who is posting just one post in a day is lock town in this site.

RIP Marge, i will try to understand who is evil in this game.

Skinner.

Skinner has been a claimed town PR since day one...without a counterclaim...and apparently without bothering the wolves enough for them to kill him, which is just weird to me.

I don't get it at all. This game is somehow just going completely wrong.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:36 am**

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:28 am
Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:13 am
Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:47 pm There's a lock town, and the wolves NK my suspects.

Disrespectful.
Who is the lock town?

Sorry Lisa, RIP, i didn't realise who is posting just one post in a day is lock town in this site.

RIP Marge, i will try to understand who is evil in this game.

Skinner.

Skinner has been a claimed town PR since day one...without a counterclaim...and apparently without bothering the wolves enough for them to kill him, which is just weird to me.

I don't get it at all. This game is somehow just going completely wrong.

I think you being lost is interesting. Hope your desire to play is intact though.
My feelings about Skinner are mixed, rescinding the claim would never make the wolves targeting him when he claims he didn't read the game.

What do you think about everyone?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:59 am**

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:36 am
I think you being lost is interesting. Hope your desire to play is intact though.
My feelings about Skinner are mixed, rescinding the claim would never make the wolves targeting him when he claims he didn't read the game.

What do you think about everyone?

If Skinner rescinded the claim I'd...I don't even know.

If he faked and the real tracker never counterclaimed what would that even mean? The real tracker couldn't know Skinner's alignment, so not countering after all this time is...just mechanically awful, right?

As to what I think of everyone...I think I have to go back and just read everything from the start. I've been nothing but wrong, and I thought after all that being wrong I was gonna come in here today and need a whip and a chair to hold off Marge so I really didn't think about much else. I still have the desire to play, for sure...but I won't lie...I'm just flat footed.

Plus I took a mafia beat town somewhere else that just ended and I think maybe it was distracting me or something...not making an excuse, just saying I'm going to read with fresh eyes and a new head space and see if I can figure this out.

Gimme twelve hours real time.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:07 am**

beat down

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:08 am**

but yeah town works too

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 2:09 am**

I will do the same Mr. Burns, let's see if we come to the same page after rereading.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:08 am**

Spoiler: show

I coloured the votes, i am light green, the flipped villagers are green.

i wanted to look at the votes and a conclusion from them is that Hugh never voted for a mislynch, not even for Lisa about whom he was convinced she is scum. Why was this [mention]Hugh Jass[/mention]

Also Otto voting off wagons yesterday makes me curious, can you tell me why [mention]Otto Mann[/mention] ?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:21 am**

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:08 am i wanted to look at the votes and a conclusion from them is that Hugh never voted for a mislynch, not even for Lisa about whom he was convinced she is scum. Why was this @Hugh Jass

Mill and CBC were town reads of mine. I was on Lisa earlier and made it the leading wagon, moved off when it took a considerable lead to keep things not too far and see how other things felt.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:22 am**

I'm so exhausted lol

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:26 am**

I think Doc should come out if they have expanded both shots. Gets us 2 confirmed peeps that can help lead the conversation or at least be some sort of stabilizer. And we'll have at least 1 of them the following phase

Also forces mafia to commit to a CC early if they're doing it which is a good trade since we get another chop before an and/or solution.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:33 am**

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:21 am
Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:08 am i wanted to look at the votes and a conclusion from them is that Hugh never voted for a mislynch, not even for Lisa about whom he was convinced she is scum. Why was this @Hugh Jass
Mill and CBC were town reads of mine. I was on Lisa earlier and made it the leading wagon, moved off when it took a considerable lead to keep things not too far and see how other things felt.

how these other things felt?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:46 am**

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:33 am
Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:21 am
Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:08 am i wanted to look at the votes and a conclusion from them is that Hugh never voted for a mislynch, not even for Lisa about whom he was convinced she is scum. Why was this @Hugh Jass
Mill and CBC were town reads of mine. I was on Lisa earlier and made it the leading wagon, moved off when it took a considerable lead to keep things not too far and see how other things felt.
how these other things felt?

Meh overall, there were no movement and nothing caught traction. Marge didn't come back to wagonize Burns which could have been interesting and Krusty who called for it didn't switch there to make it happen. Suspicions on you kind of hit a wall when I got told the identity lol, a lot of reservations there.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:51 am**

I'll be back later, gonna enjoy my sunday morning

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:39 am**

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:08 am
Spoiler: show
Mid day 1
Allison Taylor [1] Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson [1] Lisa Simpson
Grampa Simpson [1] Marge Simpson
Homer Simpson [2] Mr. Burns, Grampa Simpson
Krusty the Clown [1] Principal Skinner
Mr. Burns [1] Ned Flanders
Ned Flanders [1] The Grumple
Principal Skinner [3] Homer Simpson, Comic Book Guy, Otto Mann

end of Day 1
Milhouse Van Houten [4]: Mr. Burns, Otto Mann, Grampa Simpson, Krusty the Clown
Grampa Simpson [3]: Allison Taylor, Hugh Jass, Ned Flanders
Bart Simpson [2]: Comic Book Guy, Lisa Simpson
Mr. Burns [2]: Homer Simpson, Marge Simpson
Krusty the Clown [1]: Principal Skinner
Marge Simpson [1]: Milhouse Van Houten
Ned Flanders [1]: The Grumple
Principal Skinner [1]: Bart Simpson

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mid day 2
Allison Taylor [1] Lisa Simpson
Comic Book Guy [1] Allison Taylor
Homer Simpson [1[ Krusty the Clown
Krusty the Clown [1] The Grumple
Lisa Simpson [1] Bart Simpson
No one [3] Mr. Burns, Otto Mann, Grampa Simpson

End of Day 2
Comic Book Guy [6]: Homer Simpson, Otto Mann, Grampa Simpson, Allison Taylor, Krusty the Clown, Bart Simpson
Lisa Simpson [4]: The Grumple, Hugh Jass, Comic Book Guy, Mr. Burns
Mr. Burns [2]: Lisa Simpson, Marge Simpson
Not voting: Principal Skinner
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Mid day 3
Grampa Simpson [3] Otto Mann, Principal Skinner, Marge Simpson
Krusty the Clown [1] The Grumple
Lisa Simpson [5] Allison Taylor, Mr. Burns, Krusty the Clown, Bart Simpson, Hugh Jass
No one [1] Grampa Simpson

End of Day 3
Lisa Simpson [4]: Krusty the Clown, Allison Taylor, Mr. Burns, Bart Simpson
Krusty the Clown [3]: Principal Skinner, Grampa Simpson, The Grumple
Allison Taylor [1]: Marge Simpson
The Grumple [1]: Otto Mann
Mr. Burns [1]: Hugh Jass
I coloured the votes, i am light green, the flipped villagers are green.

i wanted to look at the votes and a conclusion from them is that Hugh never voted for a mislynch, not even for Lisa about whom he was convinced she is scum. Why was this @Hugh Jass

Also Otto voting off wagons yesterday makes me curious, can you tell me why @Otto Mann ?

I didn't like the looks of the Lisa wagon even though I'd been scum reading her.
Quite a while before nf I voted Lisa only to find Allison, Burns and Krusty on that wagon. Pretty sure gramps was there too.
Krusty and I had been on the wrong vote every round, Burns and Allison were on shit wagons 2/3 and it felt like we were either bad luck together, or a couple/few of them are scum.

I've had been town reading Allison, Burns and Krusty, but am now calling those reads into question given the gamestate, and further questioning those reads after seeing Lisa flip.

It's probably too convenient but I've pretty much flipped completely. None of my scum reads have been scum so far. I'm batting .000, and seriously believe there's wolves in the Krusty, Burns, Allison world. Throw Gramps in there too, but he and Grumple are part of my old scum reads and given where were at I've been seeing thing poorly.

[VOTE: Krusty] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:03 pm**

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:46 am
Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:33 am
Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:21 am
Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:08 am i wanted to look at the votes and a conclusion from them is that Hugh never voted for a mislynch, not even for Lisa about whom he was convinced she is scum. Why was this @Hugh Jass
Mill and CBC were town reads of mine. I was on Lisa earlier and made it the leading wagon, moved off when it took a considerable lead to keep things not too far and see how other things felt.
how these other things felt?
Meh overall, there were no movement and nothing caught traction. Marge didn't come back to wagonize Burns which could have been interesting and Krusty who called for it didn't switch there to make it happen. Suspicions on you kind of hit a wall when I got told the identity lol, a lot of reservations there.

i refuse any meta read, hope you understand, if you will expand the suspicions/reservations game related i will answer at them.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:51 am I'll be back later, gonna enjoy my sunday morning

have fun

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:14 pm**

Spoiler: show

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:38 pm Alison's pushes this game

1) someone pushed obvtown Ned Flanders
2) CBG moved votes at EoD between his scum reads
3) Lisa's posts on D3 were lame (after saying Lisa was her strongest town read on D1 and she didn't seem to falter much on that read either)

number 3 looks a tad more concerning because, fmpov, an Alison / Otto / +1 team is kinda running out of options that wouldn't receive some type of backlash. Pretty much anybody that's not Lisa (ergo, actually in thread) would probably push back on the read and thus making them look slimier and a little more dirty than they seem to look rn.

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:41 pm Additional points of concern :

I. Alison's conviction of CBG being scum based off those reasons seems contrived, implicitly the reactions like "they are in anti-spew ; I was so sure they'd flip scum too" (lolwat)

Why is it a concern? Emotion that's being put in pushes should signal to people that "they buy the read" but if you are to take a minute and analyse Alison's scum reads, they're all pretty easy to manufacture.

II. A few thoughts that I don't think they'd have as a villager (harder to place much confidence in this)

III. Not obvious villa through sheer pushes and it's D3.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:47 pm
Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:45 pm
Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:10 pm A recent essay I read said something about how a dead thread produces dead villagers. It didn't make any sense to me, but I'd like to hear you talk about it.
Are you caught up Skinner?

Becasue i thought you will contribute at an animate thread
We had parent / teacher conferences today, Bart, as you should know. And your question is presumptuous, as though I had any intention of reading twenty-eight pages of nonsense when there is graffiti to scrub off the outside of the cafeteria.

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:54 pm surprised that nobody used this image in this game at all

so I shall do it

Bart is probably the

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:07 pm
Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:37 pm [VOTE: Skinner] aubergine

Maybe if we keep pressure on both of these lumps of coal one will turn into a diamond.
In reality this person is mafia and should die.

Would also be happy with euthanizing Grandpa.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:15 pm Find myself agreeing with Allison and Burns for the most part. I like the Grumple and Krusty, Grandpa seems pretty ok too.
Feeling less sure on Comic dude, but still on the town lean side.
Pretty null on a bunch in there.

Skinner, Flanders, Milhouse take up the bottom three spots with my preference being Skinner Flanders wagons.

Milhouse calling Skinner and Flanders scum is interesting to me and I get it's highly unlikely he's wolf bros with them, but his entrance, lack of content and scum list without due exploration is troubling.
These reads are bad and you should feel bad.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:18 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:17 pm
Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:15 pm Find myself agreeing with Allison and Burns for the most part. I like the Grumple and Krusty, Grandpa seems pretty ok too.
Feeling less sure on Comic dude, but still on the town lean side.
Pretty null on a bunch in there.

Skinner, Flanders, Milhouse take up the bottom three spots with my preference being Skinner Flanders wagons.

Milhouse calling Skinner and Flanders scum is interesting to me and I get it's highly unlikely he's wolf bros with them, but his entrance, lack of content and scum list without due exploration is troubling.
These reads are bad and you should feel bad.
Why?
Burns is mafia. Grandpa is mafia. Skinner is town. I am town. Just a bunch of bad reads.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:22 pm Allison town
Bart town
Comic town
Grandpa scum
Grumple scum
Homer town
Hugh Jass hasn't posted
Krusty town
Lisa scum
Marge town
Milhouse town
Burns scum
Otto town
Skinner town

Yep

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:25 pm
Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:16 pm LOL...pads post count by eight...says absolutely nothing.

Smithers, don't even bother waking the hounds, just shoot him.

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:17 pm [VOTE: Flanders] aubergine
This is King Scum.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:28 pm
Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:27 pm
Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:23 pm If you guys wanna kill me day 1 go right ahead. Just make sure you actually kill the people who are circling me like vultures for actually posting after I was being voted for not posting.
You are posting empty noises. Nothing has changed except that you are pretending to react to pressure.
You aren't even trying to analyse me. You're just firing off the hip. You weren't even voting me before and as soon as I came and actually provided content you finally were able to justify your OMGUS.

Go ahead and suck pal.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:40 pm Burns is Ted or Nanook.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:40 pm Nah just Ted.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:43 pm I was about to town read it for being Ted but if it's Sprityo it's just mafia.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:10 pm
Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:09 pm
Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:07 pm
Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:03 pm Just yeet me so the mod doesn't have to lol.
Is this best mechanical play here?

I'm in dark waters...
gives us a night of actions with one dead instead of two dead

and if Flanders is a woof then we'd go into N1 without a villager dead
Yes I am a woof that just asked to be killed.

[VOTE: Grandpa] aubergine

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:36 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:16 pm Not impressed with Flanders for failing to read the rules.
Guy posts about town throwing when he's a suspect, then throws because he needed to flash his site cred to save himself instead of just playing his way out of a hole.
Weak sauce.

Still feeling good about a Skinner vote, wondering where Lisa is at and what she has to say. She's been pretty mousey so far.

Quoted these just to have them closer, this time i will dig for reasons of killing Mac and not accept he died just because he is Mac.
Wolves are not killing in N1 for nothing.

The 2 quotes from Marge are usefull too ig

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:39 pm**

Earlier in the game I posted about seeing a world where Burns and Allison are w/w and you guys gave me shit for "associative reads" or something.
Well I'm seeing that world again and don't care that you guys hate me exploring worlds.
Also, I'll have to ISO to confirm, but I don't think Krusty has questioned Allison or Burns and by this point in the game Krusty would have normally questioned everyone and gone back for some follow up.
Now he didn't get salty the last time I circled back on him, but I think he's learned not to lash out when scum.
Another thing with Krusty is that when hes town his reads are never this bad, however I have seen him go full on open wolf and just jump on any convenient town wagon night after night.
Hes bold like that.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:42 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:39 am I didn't like the looks of the Lisa wagon even though I'd been scum reading her.
Quite a while before nf I voted Lisa only to find Allison, Burns and Krusty on that wagon. Pretty sure gramps was there too.
Krusty and I had been on the wrong vote every round, Burns and Allison were on shit wagons 2/3 and it felt like we were either bad luck together, or a couple/few of them are scum.

I've had been town reading Allison, Burns and Krusty, but am now calling those reads into question given the gamestate, and further questioning those reads after seeing Lisa flip.

It's probably too convenient but I've pretty much flipped completely. None of my scum reads have been scum so far. I'm batting .000, and seriously believe there's wolves in the Krusty, Burns, Allison world. Throw Gramps in there too, but he and Grumple are part of my old scum reads and given where were at I've been seeing thing poorly.

[VOTE: KRUSTY] aubergine

If you TR at the time 3 players on that wagon what made you dislike the wagon?

At one moment in the day the wagon was
Lisa Simpson [5] Allison Taylor, Mr. Burns, Krusty the Clown, Bart Simpson, Hugh Jass
being at Eod
Lisa Simpson [4]: Krusty the Clown, Allison Taylor, Mr. Burns, Bart Simpson

When exaclty did you flip the town read for Allison, Burns and Krusty?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:55 pm**

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:42 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:39 am I didn't like the looks of the Lisa wagon even though I'd been scum reading her.
Quite a while before nf I voted Lisa only to find Allison, Burns and Krusty on that wagon. Pretty sure gramps was there too.
Krusty and I had been on the wrong vote every round, Burns and Allison were on shit wagons 2/3 and it felt like we were either bad luck together, or a couple/few of them are scum.

I've had been town reading Allison, Burns and Krusty, but am now calling those reads into question given the gamestate, and further questioning those reads after seeing Lisa flip.

It's probably too convenient but I've pretty much flipped completely. None of my scum reads have been scum so far. I'm batting .000, and seriously believe there's wolves in the Krusty, Burns, Allison world. Throw Gramps in there too, but he and Grumple are part of my old scum reads and given where were at I've been seeing thing poorly.

[VOTE: KRUSTY] aubergine
If you TR at the time 3 players on that wagon what made you dislike the wagon?

At one moment in the day the wagon was
Lisa Simpson [5] Allison Taylor, Mr. Burns, Krusty the Clown, Bart Simpson, Hugh Jass
being at Eod
Lisa Simpson [4]: Krusty the Clown, Allison Taylor, Mr. Burns, Bart Simpson

When exaclty did you flip the town read for Allison, Burns and Krusty?

When exactly? After the Lisa green flip I decided to do a 180.
I started questioning my TR's when I first voted Lisa and saw the same wagon crew which had been burying town every night, but still had Lisa as a SR and with her wagon way out in front i figured I'd let it ride and if she flipped green I'd really have to reassess.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:59 pm**

As it stands I dont see myself moving off Krusty for any reason.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:59 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:59 pm As it stands I dont see myself moving off Krusty for any reason.

Worst post of your entire life.

I get it. Feeling a lil drained, bleh.

Town core of Alison, Hugh, Otto, Burns, Grampa are rotten. 2 minimum wolf methinks. I'll bet my flapping dicky

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:05 pm**

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:59 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:59 pm As it stands I dont see myself moving off Krusty for any reason.
Worst post of your entire life.

I get it. Feeling a lil drained, bleh.

Town core of Alison, Hugh, Otto, Burns, Grampa are rotten. 2 minimum wolf methinks. I'll bet my flapping dicky

So between Allison, Burns, Hugh and Grandpa who are your strongest SR's?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:08 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:39 pm Earlier in the game I posted about seeing a world where Burns and Allison are w/w and you guys gave me shit for "associative reads" or something.
Well I'm seeing that world again and don't care that you guys hate me exploring worlds.
Also, I'll have to ISO to confirm, but I don't think Krusty has questioned Allison or Burns and by this point in the game Krusty would have normally questioned everyone and gone back for some follow up.
Now he didn't get salty the last time I circled back on him, but I think he's learned not to lash out when scum.
Another thing with Krusty is that when hes town his reads are never this bad, however I have seen him go full on open wolf and just jump on any convenient town wagon night after night.
Hes bold like that.

Are you talking about me voting for Lisa last RD to save myself from a mislynch?

Brilliant detective work there. Taters gonna tater.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:10 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:05 pm
Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:59 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:59 pm As it stands I dont see myself moving off Krusty for any reason.
Worst post of your entire life.

I get it. Feeling a lil drained, bleh.

Town core of Alison, Hugh, Otto, Burns, Grampa are rotten. 2 minimum wolf methinks. I'll bet my flapping dicky

So between Allison, Burns, Hugh and Grandpa who are your strongest SR's?

Hugh and Grandpa, gut feels. My game is absolute trash so far, so fuck it.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:55 pm**

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:03 pm i refuse any meta read, hope you understand, if you will expand the suspicions/reservations game related i will answer at them.

It helped me contextualize your tinfoil on me and the reactions to suspicions on you, feels familiar. It's not solely meta since we continued interacting last phase and that kinda shot the argument of you not trying to figure me out.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:56 pm**

That was a long morning

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:59 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:39 pm Earlier in the game I posted about seeing a world where Burns and Allison are w/w and you guys gave me shit for "associative reads" or something.
Well I'm seeing that world again and don't care that you guys hate me exploring worlds.
Also, I'll have to ISO to confirm, but I don't think Krusty has questioned Allison or Burns and by this point in the game Krusty would have normally questioned everyone and gone back for some follow up.
Now he didn't get salty the last time I circled back on him, but I think he's learned not to lash out when scum.
Another thing with Krusty is that when hes town his reads are never this bad, however I have seen him go full on open wolf and just jump on any convenient town wagon night after night.
Hes bold like that.

Think that was me meme-ing lol. The quote and emoji should have made it obvious, I wanted the thought behind it

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:59 pm**

I could see that world

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:00 pm**

Why Krusty over one of them right now?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:01 pm**

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:10 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:05 pm
Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:59 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:59 pm As it stands I dont see myself moving off Krusty for any reason.
Worst post of your entire life.

I get it. Feeling a lil drained, bleh.

Town core of Alison, Hugh, Otto, Burns, Grampa are rotten. 2 minimum wolf methinks. I'll bet my flapping dicky

So between Allison, Burns, Hugh and Grandpa who are your strongest SR's?
Hugh and Grandpa, gut feels. My game is absolute trash so far, so fuck it.

Come on now, I'm obv town lol. What happened to the gut scum read on Alison? And wanting Burns to compete with Lisa last phase?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:02 pm**

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:26 am I think Doc should come out if they have expanded both shots. Gets us 2 confirmed peeps that can help lead the conversation or at least be some sort of stabilizer. And we'll have at least 1 of them the following phase

Also forces mafia to commit to a CC early if they're doing it which is a good trade since we get another chop before an and/or solution.

Guess not everyone has checked in so far, but a reminder nonetheless.

DO IT!

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:03 pm**

Also since when is Gramps part of any towncore lmao? The dude has been non stop suspected, same with me and Burns to a degree.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:04 pm**

[VOTE: Burns] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:27 pm**

I'm not the doc.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:28 pm**

"Allison, Hugh, Otto, Burns, Grampa" is not a real towncore. Half of those people were at each other's throats for most of the game and most/all of them were under real suspicion at some point in time. The least suspected person there is actually probably Otto. I guess I have to re-read him too now

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:28 pm**

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:03 pm Also since when is Gramps part of any towncore lmao? The dude has been non stop suspected, same with me and Burns to a degree.

this

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:33 pm**

actually I want to push here and see what happens.

[VOTE: Grumple] aubergine

Grumple has been towncored without being townread. Nobody seriously suspects him, but nobody explicitly townreads him either. It's a lot easier to ignore your wolf teammates who aren't under suspicion than stir up controversy about them. I'm actually wondering if Grumple/Otto/X teams are possible.

My biggest gripe with Otto is that he appears way too confident and unmoving on his krusty vote despite having voted wrong for the past few days. I think all townies are feeling a bit or a lot of doubt and disappointment in their game so far and it is weird to me that Otto would just plough straight ahead onto exeing someone so early in the day seemingly uber confidently.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:38 pm**

Lol [mention]krusty[/mention]

Nice vote. Could've at least bolded it in the thread after stating Hugh and Gramps as your top reads.

Did you get shy?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:56 pm**

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:00 pm Why Krusty over one of them right now?

We have history and the only times I've ever witnessed him on 3 consecutive town wagons he was scum.
As a tp he's never on majority wagons either. Tends to do his own thing and attack the most vocal players.

His paranoia level is too low for him as well.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:56 pm**

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:00 pm Why Krusty over one of them right now?

We have history and the only times I've ever witnessed him on 3 consecutive town wagons he was scum.
As a tp he's never on majority wagons either. Tends to do his own thing and attack the most vocal players.

His paranoia level is too low for him as well.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:36 pm**

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:08 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:39 pm Earlier in the game I posted about seeing a world where Burns and Allison are w/w and you guys gave me shit for "associative reads" or something.
Well I'm seeing that world again and don't care that you guys hate me exploring worlds.
Also, I'll have to ISO to confirm, but I don't think Krusty has questioned Allison or Burns and by this point in the game Krusty would have normally questioned everyone and gone back for some follow up.
Now he didn't get salty the last time I circled back on him, but I think he's learned not to lash out when scum.
Another thing with Krusty is that when hes town his reads are never this bad, however I have seen him go full on open wolf and just jump on any convenient town wagon night after night.
Hes bold like that.
Are you talking about me voting for Lisa last RD to save myself from a mislynch?

Brilliant detective work there. Taters gonna tater.

Lol what? That wasn't a dying minutes self pres vote. You were on Lisa pretty early fwir.

But I agree nonetheless, taters gonna tate

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:40 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:38 pm Lol @krusty

Nice vote. Could've at least bolded it in the thread after stating Hugh and Gramps as your top reads.

Did you get shy?

Nah. Imma be jumping votes between a few players

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:44 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:36 pm
Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:08 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:39 pm Earlier in the game I posted about seeing a world where Burns and Allison are w/w and you guys gave me shit for "associative reads" or something.
Well I'm seeing that world again and don't care that you guys hate me exploring worlds.
Also, I'll have to ISO to confirm, but I don't think Krusty has questioned Allison or Burns and by this point in the game Krusty would have normally questioned everyone and gone back for some follow up.
Now he didn't get salty the last time I circled back on him, but I think he's learned not to lash out when scum.
Another thing with Krusty is that when hes town his reads are never this bad, however I have seen him go full on open wolf and just jump on any convenient town wagon night after night.
Hes bold like that.
Are you talking about me voting for Lisa last RD to save myself from a mislynch?

Brilliant detective work there. Taters gonna tater.
Lol what? That wasn't a dying minutes self pres vote. You were on Lisa pretty early fwir.

But I agree nonetheless, taters gonna tate

I jumped back and forth from a few wagons. It was def a self pres vote, look at the numbers

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:49 pm**

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:44 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:36 pm
Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:08 pm
Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:39 pm Earlier in the game I posted about seeing a world where Burns and Allison are w/w and you guys gave me shit for "associative reads" or something.
Well I'm seeing that world again and don't care that you guys hate me exploring worlds.
Also, I'll have to ISO to confirm, but I don't think Krusty has questioned Allison or Burns and by this point in the game Krusty would have normally questioned everyone and gone back for some follow up.
Now he didn't get salty the last time I circled back on him, but I think he's learned not to lash out when scum.
Another thing with Krusty is that when hes town his reads are never this bad, however I have seen him go full on open wolf and just jump on any convenient town wagon night after night.
Hes bold like that.
Are you talking about me voting for Lisa last RD to save myself from a mislynch?

Brilliant detective work there. Taters gonna tater.
Lol what? That wasn't a dying minutes self pres vote. You were on Lisa pretty early fwir.

But I agree nonetheless, taters gonna tate
I jumped back and forth from a few wagons. It was def a self pres vote, look at the numbers

You were the 3rd voter on Lisa. You can only claim self pres if you had to switch off your top scum read last minute to save yourself.
I'm not buying it, however, you're my homie and I'll go ahead and reread yesterday as it unfolded in a little while.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:49 pm**

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:33 pm actually I want to push here and see what happens.

[VOTE: Grumple] aubergine

Grumple has been towncored without being townread. Nobody seriously suspects him, but nobody explicitly townreads him either. It's a lot easier to ignore your wolf teammates who aren't under suspicion than stir up controversy about them. I'm actually wondering if Grumple/Otto/X teams are possible.

My biggest gripe with Otto is that he appears way too confident and unmoving on his krusty vote despite having voted wrong for the past few days. I think all townies are feeling a bit or a lot of doubt and disappointment in their game so far and it is weird to me that Otto would just plough straight ahead onto exeing someone so early in the day seemingly uber confidently.

How do you know my last vote was wrong?

I cant even remember if it was on Grampa or Grumble, but that's not important here.
I ran away from the Lisa wagon, seeing you, Burns and Krusty on there gave me the creeps.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:15 pm**

I don't know whether or not it was wrong but it creeps me out that you seem so sure it's right. You were wrong on D1 and D2 and you thought Lisa was scum for a while as well. What makes you so sure that you're right about Krusty to the point where you refuse to change your vote no matter what happens?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:34 pm**

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:15 pm I don't know whether or not it was wrong but it creeps me out that you seem so sure it's right. You were wrong on D1 and D2 and you thought Lisa was scum for a while as well. What makes you so sure that you're right about Krusty to the point where you refuse to change your vote no matter what happens?

I didn't lock my vote. That would be stupid, reckless and anti town. It's a full blown dipshit move if you ask me.

However, I did say I dont see myself changing my vote, but maybe I should have said - barring any significant developments, I dont see myself coming off that vote.

I've been getting my ass handed to me this game. We've received no info from any specials and all we have to go on are wagons. Krusty's wagons all flipped town and there's some meta stuff which isnt lining up for me

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:35 pm**

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:49 pm
Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:33 pm actually I want to push here and see what happens.

[VOTE: Grumple] aubergine

Grumple has been towncored without being townread. Nobody seriously suspects him, but nobody explicitly townreads him either. It's a lot easier to ignore your wolf teammates who aren't under suspicion than stir up controversy about them. I'm actually wondering if Grumple/Otto/X teams are possible.

My biggest gripe with Otto is that he appears way too confident and unmoving on his krusty vote despite having voted wrong for the past few days. I think all townies are feeling a bit or a lot of doubt and disappointment in their game so far and it is weird to me that Otto would just plough straight ahead onto exeing someone so early in the day seemingly uber confidently.

How do you know my last vote was wrong?

I cant even remember if it was on Grampa or Grumble, but that's not important here.
I ran away from the Lisa wagon, seeing you, Burns and Krusty on there gave me the creeps.

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