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Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm i mean, my reason for voting hyena was that he didn’t have eevee in his top ten pokemon. so yea, i would say i don’t expect that to be taken very seriously
exactly: not actually bussing.

....okay, but why do we have to be teamed as opposed to like, not teamed

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:33 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:32 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:29 pm ok but cayvie how do you read us?
i wasn't joking about the wolf duo thing. i wouldn't say it's a read but i see you two as v compatible rn.
why would wolves bus in flipless, especially with an IC in the setup?

you don't get any cred off the flip so there's no real point
you do get cred off one flip, though.
no you don't

there is no flip

there's a vengeful mafia

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm**

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:18 pm Hold on, I've got a gif for this. Might be too big though.

Nvm, I can't find it. ;-;

Anyway,

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:07 pm hyena: “its scummy for hally to wanna draw out the pokemon discussion”
also hyena: *continues the pokemon discussion*

wowee.jpg

I'm a hyena

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:33 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:32 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:29 pm ok but cayvie how do you read us?
i wasn't joking about the wolf duo thing. i wouldn't say it's a read but i see you two as v compatible rn.
why would wolves bus in flipless, especially with an IC in the setup?

you don't get any cred off the flip so there's no real point
you do get cred off one flip, though.
no you don't

there is no flip

well vengeful sort of flips as vengeful if they get yeeted because they and the person they kill die

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm i mean, my reason for voting hyena was that he didn’t have eevee in his top ten pokemon. so yea, i would say i don’t expect that to be taken very seriously
exactly: not actually bussing.
....okay, but why do we have to be teamed as opposed to like, not teamed

you don't have to be teamed. im just saying you're compatible.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:40 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm i mean, my reason for voting hyena was that he didn’t have eevee in his top ten pokemon. so yea, i would say i don’t expect that to be taken very seriously
exactly: not actually bussing.
....okay, but why do we have to be teamed as opposed to like, not teamed
you don't have to be teamed. im just saying you're compatible.

you said we were the mafia team. what caused you to have that thought?

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 pm**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:20 pm if we're talking pokemon i found a cool image that i will

somehow force to be relevant to the game

tag yourself, and give a bit of explanation into how that carries over into mafia!

i'll start, i'm grass, i'm consistently hard on myself over how i play but i don't get frustrated with others easily

I'm poison. I'm chaotic and sneaky, but I have good intentions. <3

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:42 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm
Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:33 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:32 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:29 pm ok but cayvie how do you read us?
i wasn't joking about the wolf duo thing. i wouldn't say it's a read but i see you two as v compatible rn.
why would wolves bus in flipless, especially with an IC in the setup?

you don't get any cred off the flip so there's no real point
you do get cred off one flip, though.
no you don't

there is no flip
there's a vengeful mafia

okay

if hyena and hally are teamed, which do you think is the vengeful?

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:42 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:27 pm hyena do you actually scumread hally

What if I do? :3

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:43 pm**

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 pm
Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:20 pm if we're talking pokemon i found a cool image that i will

somehow force to be relevant to the game

tag yourself, and give a bit of explanation into how that carries over into mafia!

i'll start, i'm grass, i'm consistently hard on myself over how i play but i don't get frustrated with others easily
I'm poison. I'm chaotic and sneaky, but I have good intentions. <3

this

half answers the second part of my question

and i don't know if i should be appreciative or annoyed

presumably that depends on what time it is for me

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:44 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:40 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm i mean, my reason for voting hyena was that he didn’t have eevee in his top ten pokemon. so yea, i would say i don’t expect that to be taken very seriously
exactly: not actually bussing.
....okay, but why do we have to be teamed as opposed to like, not teamed
you don't have to be teamed. im just saying you're compatible.
you said we were the mafia team. what caused you to have that thought?

i feel like you're taking me in circles.

i saw you and hyena vote each other for what looked like silly-ish reasons. i thought, hmm this looks like it could be distancing. is there a reason for mafia to distance/bus in a flipless setting? yes, potentially, if they want to use the vengekill.

and here we are

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:45 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:34 pm like i dont think either of them actually expects the wagon for the other to get off the ground, or their reason for voting to be taken particularly seriously.

I was hoping a wagon would take off so that I could process the people on it. =/ I don't know why our reasons need to be taken seriously (or not seriously) for people to join it.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 pm**

a d1 vengeful yeet isn't even good for mafia though since it gives info to the town that they punted a wolf

it does sort of nullify the vig utility, but, lolmath

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 pm**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:42 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm
Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm
Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:33 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:32 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:29 pm ok but cayvie how do you read us?
i wasn't joking about the wolf duo thing. i wouldn't say it's a read but i see you two as v compatible rn.
why would wolves bus in flipless, especially with an IC in the setup?

you don't get any cred off the flip so there's no real point
you do get cred off one flip, though.
no you don't

there is no flip
there's a vengeful mafia
okay

if hyena and hally are teamed, which do you think is the vengeful?

if i had to guess i'd say hally. hyena's push seems more serious.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:44 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:40 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm i mean, my reason for voting hyena was that he didn’t have eevee in his top ten pokemon. so yea, i would say i don’t expect that to be taken very seriously
exactly: not actually bussing.
....okay, but why do we have to be teamed as opposed to like, not teamed
you don't have to be teamed. im just saying you're compatible.
you said we were the mafia team. what caused you to have that thought?
i feel like you're taking me in circles.

i saw you and hyena vote each other for what looked like silly-ish reasons. i thought, hmm this looks like it could be distancing. is there a reason for mafia to distance/bus in a flipless setting? yes, potentially, if they want to use the vengekill.

and here we are

okay. so you think we’re mafia together because we’re voting each other for silly reasons. why can’t we be town doing that? and why is it better strategically for mafia to bus the vengeful as opposed to just power wolf to endgame? i don’t get that. if i was mafia i would just open wolf because there’s no flips, not bus on D1. that doesn’t help mafia get their wincon any faster

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm**

Cayvie, you should vote someone. :3 Create some waves.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 pm a d1 vengeful yeet isn't even good for mafia though since it gives info to the town that they punted a wolf

it does sort of nullify the vig utility, but, lolmath

sure, but again, i don't think they were *actually* bussing. just creating distance for if the vengekill goes off in the future.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm**

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm Cayvie, you should vote someone. :3 Create some waves.

it's scary! there's only 8 of us

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:50 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm Cayvie, you should vote someone. :3 Create some waves.
it's scary! there's only 8 of us

It's okay that there's only 8 of us! If you want, you can vote on someone who does have votes but has posted.

Just give a reason if you do, whether it's a serious one or not.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:51 pm**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:46 pm a d1 vengeful yeet isn't even good for mafia though since it gives info to the town that they punted a wolf

it does sort of nullify the vig utility, but, lolmath

yea, all it is is a one for one trade which doesn’t actually get mafia closer to winning. and then there’s only one mafia left and if the vig shoots them it’s gg

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:52 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:48 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:44 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:40 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:39 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 pm
cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:36 pm i mean, my reason for voting hyena was that he didn’t have eevee in his top ten pokemon. so yea, i would say i don’t expect that to be taken very seriously
exactly: not actually bussing.
....okay, but why do we have to be teamed as opposed to like, not teamed
you don't have to be teamed. im just saying you're compatible.
you said we were the mafia team. what caused you to have that thought?
i feel like you're taking me in circles.

i saw you and hyena vote each other for what looked like silly-ish reasons. i thought, hmm this looks like it could be distancing. is there a reason for mafia to distance/bus in a flipless setting? yes, potentially, if they want to use the vengekill.

and here we are
okay. so you think we’re mafia together because we’re voting each other for silly reasons. why can’t we be town doing that? and why is it better strategically for mafia to bus the vengeful as opposed to just power wolf to endgame? i don’t get that. if i was mafia i would just open wolf because there’s no flips, not bus on D1. that doesn’t help mafia get their wincon any faster

no, i think you're *compatible* as mafia together. you easily could be town doing that, yes. im not gonna death tunnel on this or anything. it was just a thought i had, that i stated.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:53 pm**

i don’t think cayvie’s me/hyena vengeful bussing theory is a real thought

[VOTE: cayvie] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:55 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:53 pm i don’t think cayvie’s me/hyena vengeful bussing theory is a real thought

[VOTE: cayvie] aubergine

it is not a dang vengeful bussing theory. it is a vengeful distancing theory.

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:56 pm**

what is with the aubergine anyway

is it for hosts to find votes easier?

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:57 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:55 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:53 pm i don’t think cayvie’s me/hyena vengeful bussing theory is a real thought

[VOTE: cayvie] aubergine
it is not a dang vengeful bussing theory. it is a vengeful distancing theory.

okay

i don’t think cayvie’s vengeful distancing theory is a real thought

better?

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:57 pm**

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:58 pm**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:56 pm what is with the aubergine anyway

is it for hosts to find votes easier?

not hosts. i think its so players can search for votes if we want. but vote counts are done via the poll at the top not manually by the host

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:59 pm**

as in, you’re supposed to call your vote itt using the vote tags but then you also do it in the poll for the official count

Posted: **Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:59 pm**

oh and now that i see chemist's original question

idk if the steel typing really crosses over into my mafia play, except that i didn't play mafia for 7 years and then was like "hmm im gonna get really into forum mafia again" and volunteered for champs and did a bunch of prep for it and took it real seriously

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:17 am**

mist what are your reads?

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:21 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:17 am mist what are your reads?

i disagree with you saying cayvie's theory wasn't a real thought, i had the same thought at first but she stuck with the read under pressure which i think is worth a good bit

i think hyena beginning non-serious discussion then moving out of it when he felt the time was right is probably a good look, like, flow-wise if that makes any sense

that's all for now

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:46 am**

hm. re: hyena i generally find it >rand wolf to be eager to move out of fluff because i think wolves are more self conscious about wanting to make a stronger first impression. but it’s also kinda person specific so idk

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:50 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:46 am hm. re: hyena i generally find it >rand wolf to be eager to move out of fluff because i think wolves are more self conscious about wanting to make a stronger first impression. but it’s also kinda person specific so idk

i don't think it's particularly alignment indicative for hyena (on ToS it's very rare that we ever do move out of fluff anyway)

but i think the progression of making an impact in fluffphase and then doing the same in gamephase is more town-indicative

idk that makes more sense in my head

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:58 am**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:50 am
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:46 am hm. re: hyena i generally find it >rand wolf to be eager to move out of fluff because i think wolves are more self conscious about wanting to make a stronger first impression. but it’s also kinda person specific so idk
i don't think it's particularly alignment indicative for hyena (on ToS it's very rare that we ever do move out of fluff anyway)

but i think the progression of making an impact in fluffphase and then doing the same in gamephase is more town-indicative

idk that makes more sense in my head

rip, yea i’m not really following. i don’t think what i said is like a hard and fast tell anyway, so meh. also i forgot you and hyena are from the same home site!

oh and re: cayvie wdym she stuck with it under pressure? she kinda peaced out as soon as i voted her. i actually voted her partly to see if she would stay and argue for ot more but then she left

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:05 am**

ig to illustrate what i mean re: hyena, i feel like when he votede and started giving reads it was very out of nowhere, like “look i’m starting to solve!” and maybe forcing the issue a bit

as opposed to mist who has sort of eased into solving more naturally and didn’t seem like self conscious about getting into it quickly. like mist seems less concerned with trying to look solvey than hyena, which i feel like is actually townier in a vacuum

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:14 am**

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:37 pm Sabie is probably mafia, too, unless it's actually MP7. I'm going to call Tony town.

like this for example feels forced too. what did sabie do to be a scum read at this point?

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:50 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:05 amas opposed to mist who has sort of eased into solving more naturally and didn’t seem like self conscious about getting into it quickly. like mist seems less concerned with trying to look solvey than hyena, which i feel like is actually townier in a vacuum

I don't think you understand my intent if you think I'm trying to solve or look solvey. ;-;

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:43 am**

The poll deadline seems to be wrong and I'm not sure why. Probably I messed up creating it somehow. At any rate, the deadline is always 8PM EST.

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:04 am**

morning y'all

where is half the game smh

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:19 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:10 pm [VOTE: hyena] aubergine

for not having eevee in his top ten fave pokémon, which is a crime punishable by death

what the heck wrong

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:19 am**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:04 am morning y'all

where is half the game smh

school

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:19 am**

I have a presentation in 3 hours wish me luck

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:19 am**

I think Cayvie is a wolf regardless of whatever Hyena said

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:21 am**

Mistyx wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:20 pm if we're talking pokemon i found a cool image that i will

somehow force to be relevant to the game

tag yourself, and give a bit of explanation into how that carries over into mafia!

i'll start, i'm grass, i'm consistently hard on myself over how i play but i don't get frustrated with others easily

I'm all the types

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:21 am**

dark character trait "will never lose at rps"
???

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:22 am**

als odark character trait: either a strong sense of self or no sense of self :/
they were really running out of options

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:23 am**

some of these are disasters

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:03 pm**

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:50 am
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:05 amas opposed to mist who has sort of eased into solving more naturally and didn’t seem like self conscious about getting into it quickly. like mist seems less concerned with trying to look solvey than hyena, which i feel like is actually townier in a vacuum
I don't think you understand my intent if you think I'm trying to solve or look solvey. ;-;

ok, then what are you trying to do?

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:04 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:19 am
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:10 pm [VOTE: hyena] aubergine

for not having eevee in his top ten fave pokémon, which is a crime punishable by death
what the heck wrong

no u

Posted: **Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:06 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:19 am I think Cayvie is a wolf regardless of whatever Hyena said

hyena didn’t say that, i did

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