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Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:57 am
by Dragomir
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:49 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:43 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:18 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:07 am Shoot Drago then me, but shoot Drago first

Gman is a fed up townie
Hyena is a tryhard
Nanook is powering but in a genuine way
Why would you want to get shot?
Cause people say they wanna shoot me. Shoot Drago first then do w/e you want with me
Talk some more about Drago. I have no idea why you think he deserves to get shot as well.
Cause we play on the same forum and he is sheeping a lot. Drago town i know leads a lot. Tries to get opinions and stuff. Not just bluntly say shoot X Y Z
I don't really do any leading on other forums anymore Beky.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:58 am
by Dragomir
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 5:14 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:49 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:43 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:18 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:07 am Shoot Drago then me, but shoot Drago first

Gman is a fed up townie
Hyena is a tryhard
Nanook is powering but in a genuine way
Why would you want to get shot?
Cause people say they wanna shoot me. Shoot Drago first then do w/e you want with me
Talk some more about Drago. I have no idea why you think he deserves to get shot as well.
Cause we play on the same forum and he is sheeping a lot. Drago town i know leads a lot. Tries to get opinions and stuff. Not just bluntly say shoot X Y Z
This is not dissimilar to my own suspicion of Drago. I felt like his outright denial of me when I showed up yesterday was inorganic. I've worked with town drago in the past and had some good cooperation. I don't feel like there was any effort on his part to develop a read on me.
What denial are you talking about?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:10 am
by Sloonei
[mention]Dragomir[/mention] this:
Spoiler: show
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 7:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:01 pm Does anyone distrust me with the gun?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:48 pm Give me the gun.
No.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm
boo wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:53 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

The steady hand of a doctor is the only on we can trust with a shot like this.
This is the spiciest vote in the entire game. I don't know what to make of it.
That Sloonei is dedicated to his vote not being a relevant factor, apparently?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:01 pm The vote is useless. Nobody's gonna wagon Wilgy, an inactive player with no more than one post, with roughly an hour left in the phase. Especially when the majority of the active players have formulated town cores.

Voting for Wilgy all of a sudden and even trying to get ppl on board is just worthy of an lol.

Now, I'm trying to decide as to what that means concerning Sloonei's alignment, if it has any meaning at all.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Why not?
Because I'm correct regardless of your vote on Wilgy being a joke. It was useless.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:11 pm Nutella should still be the one we give the gun to, fwiw.
Never.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:41 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:38 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm Sloonei coordinating to give Wilgy the gun is basically outing.
No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
As a general statement sure whatever wifom all day. But that is never scum sloonei.
Give me one good reason why a scum Sloonei wouldn't try to reaction test like you're assuming a town Sloonei was doing.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm Sloonei coordinating to give Wilgy the gun is basically outing.
No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
Nah. I think you should try to use it.
No Sloo. You of all ppl shouldn't use it after what happened in the AC game with Long Con voting for himself.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:47 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:43 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm

Don't even try to use that logic.
Nah. I think you should try to use it.
No Sloo. You of all ppl shouldn't use it after what happened in the AC game with Long Con voting for himself.
I don't even see how that's relevant
You town read LC for doing something that you didn't think a mafia would ever do, that being voting for himself to tie the wagons. But LC flipped scum. So because of that experience, you shouldn't ever use the logic of "scum won't ever do something so ridiculous" again.
I misread a player one time. I'm not going to let that prevent me from playing mafia ever again.
It should prevent you from using poor logic a second time is what I mean.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:19 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Wow not a single question, much sad

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:20 am
by Dragomir
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:10 am @Dragomir this:
Spoiler: show
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 7:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:01 pm Does anyone distrust me with the gun?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:48 pm Give me the gun.
No.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm
boo wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:53 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

The steady hand of a doctor is the only on we can trust with a shot like this.
This is the spiciest vote in the entire game. I don't know what to make of it.
That Sloonei is dedicated to his vote not being a relevant factor, apparently?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:01 pm The vote is useless. Nobody's gonna wagon Wilgy, an inactive player with no more than one post, with roughly an hour left in the phase. Especially when the majority of the active players have formulated town cores.

Voting for Wilgy all of a sudden and even trying to get ppl on board is just worthy of an lol.

Now, I'm trying to decide as to what that means concerning Sloonei's alignment, if it has any meaning at all.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Why not?
Because I'm correct regardless of your vote on Wilgy being a joke. It was useless.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:11 pm Nutella should still be the one we give the gun to, fwiw.
Never.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:41 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:38 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm Sloonei coordinating to give Wilgy the gun is basically outing.
No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
As a general statement sure whatever wifom all day. But that is never scum sloonei.
Give me one good reason why a scum Sloonei wouldn't try to reaction test like you're assuming a town Sloonei was doing.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm Sloonei coordinating to give Wilgy the gun is basically outing.
No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
Nah. I think you should try to use it.
No Sloo. You of all ppl shouldn't use it after what happened in the AC game with Long Con voting for himself.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:47 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:43 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 pm Nah. I think you should try to use it.
No Sloo. You of all ppl shouldn't use it after what happened in the AC game with Long Con voting for himself.
I don't even see how that's relevant
You town read LC for doing something that you didn't think a mafia would ever do, that being voting for himself to tie the wagons. But LC flipped scum. So because of that experience, you shouldn't ever use the logic of "scum won't ever do something so ridiculous" again.
I misread a player one time. I'm not going to let that prevent me from playing mafia ever again.
It should prevent you from using poor logic a second time is what I mean.
Ah, ok. What's the problem? It just happens that we're not mindmelding this game.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:39 am
by Sloonei
Dragomir wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:20 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:10 am @Dragomir this:
Spoiler: show
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 7:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:01 pm Does anyone distrust me with the gun?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:48 pm Give me the gun.
No.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm
boo wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:53 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

The steady hand of a doctor is the only on we can trust with a shot like this.
This is the spiciest vote in the entire game. I don't know what to make of it.
That Sloonei is dedicated to his vote not being a relevant factor, apparently?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:01 pm The vote is useless. Nobody's gonna wagon Wilgy, an inactive player with no more than one post, with roughly an hour left in the phase. Especially when the majority of the active players have formulated town cores.

Voting for Wilgy all of a sudden and even trying to get ppl on board is just worthy of an lol.

Now, I'm trying to decide as to what that means concerning Sloonei's alignment, if it has any meaning at all.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Why not?
Because I'm correct regardless of your vote on Wilgy being a joke. It was useless.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:11 pm Nutella should still be the one we give the gun to, fwiw.
Never.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:41 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:38 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm Sloonei coordinating to give Wilgy the gun is basically outing.
No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
As a general statement sure whatever wifom all day. But that is never scum sloonei.
Give me one good reason why a scum Sloonei wouldn't try to reaction test like you're assuming a town Sloonei was doing.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm Sloonei coordinating to give Wilgy the gun is basically outing.
No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
Nah. I think you should try to use it.
No Sloo. You of all ppl shouldn't use it after what happened in the AC game with Long Con voting for himself.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:47 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:43 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm

No Sloo. You of all ppl shouldn't use it after what happened in the AC game with Long Con voting for himself.
I don't even see how that's relevant
You town read LC for doing something that you didn't think a mafia would ever do, that being voting for himself to tie the wagons. But LC flipped scum. So because of that experience, you shouldn't ever use the logic of "scum won't ever do something so ridiculous" again.
I misread a player one time. I'm not going to let that prevent me from playing mafia ever again.
It should prevent you from using poor logic a second time is what I mean.
Ah, ok. What's the problem? It just happens that we're not mindmelding this game.
I don’t care about “mindmelding”, I care about constructive exchanges. None of this is even in the ballpark of constructive. I could have done more on my end to make that happen, but you just slapped away everything I was saying. Those first couple flat denials and your response to my wilgy vote stood out to me. It didn’t feel like you were actually attempting to read me and just wanted an excuse to keep me down.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:39 am
by Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:19 am Wow not a single question, much sad
Who is the player besides yourself that should never be shot tonight?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:44 am
by Dragomir
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:39 am
Dragomir wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:20 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:10 am @Dragomir this:
Spoiler: show
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 7:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:01 pm Does anyone distrust me with the gun?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:48 pm Give me the gun.
No.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:58 pm
boo wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 8:53 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

The steady hand of a doctor is the only on we can trust with a shot like this.
This is the spiciest vote in the entire game. I don't know what to make of it.
That Sloonei is dedicated to his vote not being a relevant factor, apparently?
Yes.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:01 pm The vote is useless. Nobody's gonna wagon Wilgy, an inactive player with no more than one post, with roughly an hour left in the phase. Especially when the majority of the active players have formulated town cores.

Voting for Wilgy all of a sudden and even trying to get ppl on board is just worthy of an lol.

Now, I'm trying to decide as to what that means concerning Sloonei's alignment, if it has any meaning at all.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm Imagine taking a vote for Wilgy seriously.
Don't even try to start this with me now.
Why not?
Because I'm correct regardless of your vote on Wilgy being a joke. It was useless.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:11 pm Nutella should still be the one we give the gun to, fwiw.
Never.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:41 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:38 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm

No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
As a general statement sure whatever wifom all day. But that is never scum sloonei.
Give me one good reason why a scum Sloonei wouldn't try to reaction test like you're assuming a town Sloonei was doing.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:40 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:36 pm
nutella wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:25 pm

No that's reactiontesting prob. He doesn't seriously want to give the gun to someone who might not even be here at all. You and I both know Sloonei better than that. And a wolf wouldn't do something that obviously ridiculous.
Don't even try to use that logic.
Nah. I think you should try to use it.
No Sloo. You of all ppl shouldn't use it after what happened in the AC game with Long Con voting for himself.
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:47 pm
Dragomir wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:43 pm

I don't even see how that's relevant
You town read LC for doing something that you didn't think a mafia would ever do, that being voting for himself to tie the wagons. But LC flipped scum. So because of that experience, you shouldn't ever use the logic of "scum won't ever do something so ridiculous" again.
I misread a player one time. I'm not going to let that prevent me from playing mafia ever again.
It should prevent you from using poor logic a second time is what I mean.
Ah, ok. What's the problem? It just happens that we're not mindmelding this game.
I don’t care about “mindmelding”, I care about constructive exchanges. None of this is even in the ballpark of constructive. I could have done more on my end to make that happen, but you just slapped away everything I was saying. Those first couple flat denials and your response to my wilgy vote stood out to me. It didn’t feel like you were actually attempting to read me and just wanted an excuse to keep me down.
You're right.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:58 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:39 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:19 am Wow not a single question, much sad
Who is the player besides yourself that should never be shot tonight?
Honestly my gut says FG but I don’t think I could possibly justify it in any quantitative way

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:59 am
by Duskfall
Idt any of my townreads should be on the block tonight so you can justify it that way

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:59 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I don’t think I’d ever shoot johan tonight barring an actual slip either, but that’s more of an “I don’t want to shoot them on D2 of their first game here for what would amount to POE reasons” than a real townread tbh

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:00 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Duskfall wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 6:59 am Idt any of my townreads should be on the block tonight so you can justify it that way
That matches my read so I’ll roll with it!

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:15 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Honestly my biggest problem rn is that there’s a couple players I don’t know what to do with. G man is a huge bundle of ate, I don’t know how I’m supposed to read that shit. Mac seemed townie enough D1 but he’s done 90% of his stuff while he had the gun then put out some bullshit ate and that’s it. Wilgy hasn’t posted enough for me to have any opinion. And then there’s boo, who I genuinely can’t tell if he’s mafia or just has an incredibly different approach to the game that’s skewing my read.

So yeah, this game is a bit Frustrating tbh.

I still feel confident I’ll figure it out and take the right shot tonight tho.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:19 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Actually what would be really helpful is if anyone has a history of playing with boo/has a decent handle on how boo typically plays.

Anyone? Anyone at all?

I’ll even take people that don’t but want to pretend they do tbh

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:24 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Btw if mafia could not poison me tonight, it would be pretty cool to get to LYLO as town it’s been awhile

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:24 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I assume that guarantees I’ll get poisoned though cause I don’t get to play full games anymore

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:25 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
This is what happens when nobody asks me questions, I get super fucking annoying.

Back later, tag me if needed

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:34 am
by Duskfall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:15 am Honestly my biggest problem rn is that there’s a couple players I don’t know what to do with. G man is a huge bundle of ate, I don’t know how I’m supposed to read that shit. Mac seemed townie enough D1 but he’s done 90% of his stuff while he had the gun then put out some bullshit ate and that’s it. Wilgy hasn’t posted enough for me to have any opinion. And then there’s boo, who I genuinely can’t tell if he’s mafia or just has an incredibly different approach to the game that’s skewing my read.

So yeah, this game is a bit Frustrating tbh.

I still feel confident I’ll figure it out and take the right shot tonight tho.
If it makes you feel better I feel the same about all this people

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:38 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Duskfall wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:34 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:15 am Honestly my biggest problem rn is that there’s a couple players I don’t know what to do with. G man is a huge bundle of ate, I don’t know how I’m supposed to read that shit. Mac seemed townie enough D1 but he’s done 90% of his stuff while he had the gun then put out some bullshit ate and that’s it. Wilgy hasn’t posted enough for me to have any opinion. And then there’s boo, who I genuinely can’t tell if he’s mafia or just has an incredibly different approach to the game that’s skewing my read.

So yeah, this game is a bit Frustrating tbh.

I still feel confident I’ll figure it out and take the right shot tonight tho.
If it makes you feel better I feel the same about all this people
It does!

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:47 am
by Johann
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 5:11 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:59 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:51 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:45 am
Duskfall wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:29 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:02 am
Duskfall wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 5:11 pm My most unique pushes were boo and drago (i was the first to go down that route)

But also I was consensus town so I could've died for that
Are same people you suspected today the people you suspected yesterday?
Not much interesting has happened today imo
From my point of view you were poisoned for suspecting right. I doubt you were poisoned cause you are good - idk if you are good and how good you are compared to people here - i doubt you were poisoned to throw us off the track.
This reads like a mafia player who is responsible for poisoning duskfall trying to misdirect attention.
Attention from what?
from anything. If you are bad and poisoned Duskfall, you can propose any motive for it to prompt a discussion in that direction. Maybe Duskfall was poisoned in part so that you could push the angle that he was poisoned for being on point with his suspects.

What makes you believe that Duskfall's suspicions are the reason he was poisoned? Why not just that he's a widely trusted player?
Cause i see better targets to poison than Dusk when it comes to trust. I would poison anyone thats gets the gun cause obv those are most trusted ones

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:50 am
by Johann
Dragomir wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 5:57 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:58 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:49 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:43 am
Sloonei wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:18 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 4:07 am Shoot Drago then me, but shoot Drago first

Gman is a fed up townie
Hyena is a tryhard
Nanook is powering but in a genuine way
Why would you want to get shot?
Cause people say they wanna shoot me. Shoot Drago first then do w/e you want with me
Talk some more about Drago. I have no idea why you think he deserves to get shot as well.
Cause we play on the same forum and he is sheeping a lot. Drago town i know leads a lot. Tries to get opinions and stuff. Not just bluntly say shoot X Y Z
I don't really do any leading on other forums anymore Beky.
IDK, its my first game here so i cant tell. But you are more active when town and not as sheepy. You dont even try to voice your opinion.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:55 am
by Johann
If i was mafia i would poison person that has the gun. I wouldnt concern myself with reducing number of people that can use the gun. I would concern myself with people that decide who gets the gun

Mafia can get the gun too. If i can remove townies that decide who get the gun i can give gun to fellow mafia

That being said mafia not doing that means they have an agenda behind their poison. Who ever had the gun is way more trustful than Dusk cause they got a gun. By poisoning someone you also confirm them as town. You dont wanna confirn that many people during day phase. Its nuts. So i believe mafia killed Dusk cause he hit a nail on who is scum

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:58 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Johan, how many mafia do you think are in the grouping of [hyena/Mac/gman/sloonei/dragomir/boo] ?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:07 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
You don’t have to know exactly which ones, just how many you think are there

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:13 am
by Johann
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:07 am You don’t have to know exactly which ones, just how many you think are there
2 for sure
Drago - Hyena

3rd is unknowm

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Ok-why?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:24 am
by Funnygurl555
ayy johann is so town so town so town

the drago read is spicy

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:58 am
by Dragomir
[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] what do you think about shooting Wilgy or FG? Nobody's talking about them.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:59 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Dragomir wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:58 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what do you think about shooting Wilgy or FG? Nobody's talking about them.
Well I just put FG as my top TR, so. I wouldn’t count on that shot!

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:04 am
by Johann
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 am Ok-why?
Drago i already explained
Hyena seems as a try hard. Idk its a gut feeling. I am a good scum player and i can smell other scum. He smells scummy. I can iso some posts later.

He also put me in his scum read without even pushing for me or explaining

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:05 am
by Johann
Why put a player into a scum read and then not even bother get them killed
Iike what

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 am Ok-why?
Drago i already explained
Hyena seems as a try hard. Idk its a gut feeling. I am a good scum player and i can smell other scum. He smells scummy. I can iso some posts later.

He also put me in his scum read without even pushing for me or explaining
Ok—what’s your read on Mac?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:44 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Funnygurl555 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:59 pm I’m doing this new thing where I read backwards. Idk of this was a good idea or not but it’s closer to in person interaction. 🤷🏻‍♂️
.daetsni elpoep werd ohw beew a emaceb i os ega ym elpoep htiw tcaretni ot elbanu doohdlihc ym fo tol a tneps i
em rof wolb eht esae ot depleh yletinifed ti tub spihsnoitaler lanosrepretni laer gnimrof ot esolc neve t'nsaw ti

kcaj troffe eht rof sknaht
:hug:

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:46 am
by Jackofhearts2005
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:17 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 11:49 am Fwiw I don’t TR Mac because of his SoD ATE, he asked for the gun and the responsibility that comes with it, then...got mad cause he had the responsibility of the gun? So I’m not particularly empathetic nor do I see it as a reason to TR him.


That said he’s probably town.
Yeah idk.

My reaction to ate is always “That looks really easy to fake and I wouldn’t have reacted like that....but eh, feels kinda townie.”
Yeah, I mean, I had a TR of Mac previously, the AtE wasn’t really enough to move the needle off it. Idk, I dislike that kind of ate tbh, but it’s whatever.
Yeah, I had a townread before those posts so nothing probably changes.

Wish I knew how the shot list changed (I'm sure I'll find out) so drastically in the time I was absent. :shrug:

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:58 am
by Johann
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 am Ok-why?
Drago i already explained
Hyena seems as a try hard. Idk its a gut feeling. I am a good scum player and i can smell other scum. He smells scummy. I can iso some posts later.

He also put me in his scum read without even pushing for me or explaining
Ok—what’s your read on Mac?
I've got no clue, my biggest problem here is that i read posts buts its hard to memorize who is who unless i really focus on that said person. All i know is that he shot nutella and had no remorse and showed no remorse

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:01 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 am Ok-why?
Drago i already explained
Hyena seems as a try hard. Idk its a gut feeling. I am a good scum player and i can smell other scum. He smells scummy. I can iso some posts later.

He also put me in his scum read without even pushing for me or explaining
Ok—what’s your read on Mac?
I've got no clue, my biggest problem here is that i read posts buts its hard to memorize who is who unless i really focus on that said person. All i know is that he shot nutella and had no remorse and showed no remorse
Are you aware of the fairly last minute switch from giving dusk the gun to giving mac the gun that happened at EOD1?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:17 am
by Johann
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:01 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:09 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:20 am Ok-why?
Drago i already explained
Hyena seems as a try hard. Idk its a gut feeling. I am a good scum player and i can smell other scum. He smells scummy. I can iso some posts later.

He also put me in his scum read without even pushing for me or explaining
Ok—what’s your read on Mac?
I've got no clue, my biggest problem here is that i read posts buts its hard to memorize who is who unless i really focus on that said person. All i know is that he shot nutella and had no remorse and showed no remorse
Are you aware of the fairly last minute switch from giving dusk the gun to giving mac the gun that happened at EOD1?
I wanted to say it was Mafia that sniped it but it would be a stretch to say it. Because unless he is Mafia giving gun to him would only make sense if his targets are wastly different than Dusks

And combine that with the fact Dusk is poisoned it would mean
A) Dusk was sniped from getting a gun
B) Dusk wad poisoned to die

Someone REALLY wants dusk out of the game

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:18 am
by Johann
I know its a tinfoil but i really believe Dusk is being killed bcs he correctly figured who is scum

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:19 am
by Duskfall
Johan my ego is big enough already

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:24 am
by Funnygurl555
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 9:44 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:59 pm I’m doing this new thing where I read backwards. Idk of this was a good idea or not but it’s closer to in person interaction. 🤷🏻‍♂️
.daetsni elpoep werd ohw beew a emaceb i os ega ym elpoep htiw tcaretni ot elbanu doohdlihc ym fo tol a tneps i
em rof wolb eht esae ot depleh yletinifed ti tub spihsnoitaler lanosrepretni laer gnimrof ot esolc neve t'nsaw ti

kcaj troffe eht rof sknaht
:hug:
LMFAO

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:33 am
by boo
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:55 am If i was mafia i would poison person that has the gun. I wouldnt concern myself with reducing number of people that can use the gun. I would concern myself with people that decide who gets the gun

Mafia can get the gun too. If i can remove townies that decide who get the gun i can give gun to fellow mafia

That being said mafia not doing that means they have an agenda behind their poison. Who ever had the gun is way more trustful than Dusk cause they got a gun. By poisoning someone you also confirm them as town. You dont wanna confirn that many people during day phase. Its nuts. So i believe mafia killed Dusk cause he hit a nail on who is scum
You'd be using the poison while mafia wrong, then.

And most of what you say here is logic so bad it feels forced.

Your teammates should get to reigning you in before you dig this hole deeper.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:34 am
by boo
Funnygurl555 wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 8:24 am ayy johann is so town so town so town

the drago read is spicy
The Drago read is parroting the thread.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:19 pm
by Johann
boo wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:33 am
Johann wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:55 am If i was mafia i would poison person that has the gun. I wouldnt concern myself with reducing number of people that can use the gun. I would concern myself with people that decide who gets the gun

Mafia can get the gun too. If i can remove townies that decide who get the gun i can give gun to fellow mafia

That being said mafia not doing that means they have an agenda behind their poison. Who ever had the gun is way more trustful than Dusk cause they got a gun. By poisoning someone you also confirm them as town. You dont wanna confirn that many people during day phase. Its nuts. So i believe mafia killed Dusk cause he hit a nail on who is scum
You'd be using the poison while mafia wrong, then.

And most of what you say here is logic so bad it feels forced.

Your teammates should get to reigning you in before you dig this hole deeper.
Or i am right and you wanna discredit it

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:22 pm
by Johann
[/quote]
Your teammates should get to reigning you in before you dig this hole deeper.
[/quote]
And this is what irks me

You basically called me a scum here.... and then proceeded to give tips to my "team mates"

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:23 pm
by Johann
So if you trully believe i am scum - like you said i am - why on earth would you give tips to my "team mates"

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:44 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
We should really be treating this day like any other and then giving the gun to someone to enforce the death of the player voted for.

Feel like nobody feels pressured into reacting because nobody is close to being lynched except the one time Mac was like "Jack, convince me not to shoot you."

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:51 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Skimming Dusk's iso, I think he was poisoned for being a consensus townread, not for having particularly scary reads since he was mostly after Hyena and Nutella and not even that harshly. Pushes my Hyena read south slightly all the same.

So here is our player list with players I have a reason to townread besides "Idk they feel pretty townie" (ie Hyena and Nanook) are crossed out

boo
Dragomir
DrWilgy
Duskfall
Funnygurl555
G-Man
Hyena
Jackofhearts2005
Johann
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei


So let's look at... :ponder:

boo
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei

Those first three.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:00 pm
by boo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 12:51 pm Skimming Dusk's iso, I think he was poisoned for being a consensus townread, not for having particularly scary reads since he was mostly after Hyena and Nutella and not even that harshly. Pushes my Hyena read south slightly all the same.

So here is our player list with players I have a reason to townread besides "Idk they feel pretty townie" (ie Hyena and Nanook) are crossed out

boo
Dragomir
DrWilgy
Duskfall
Funnygurl555
G-Man
Hyena
Jackofhearts2005
Johann
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei


So let's look at... :ponder:

boo
DrWilgy
Funnygurl555
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei

Those first three.
That was a little heavy on the 'skimming' part of looking over his ISO, if that's your take-away from his D1 reads.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:06 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
In reading Boo's iso, I'm seeing more aggression than hunting. Is that normal? [mention]Sloonei[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention]

Like the previous post is a perfect example. He's not calling me scum. He's shoving me. Most of his iso is that. The rest is him flip flopping on Nutella and Duskfall reads.

I'd be okay with shooting this considering we're going to see less damning stuff in this setup than normal.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D2)

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:11 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I don't see anything scummy in Wilgy's iso. It's only 16 posts and I'm not great at reading lowpost Wilgy (plus, Wilgy always seems to rand town so I don't have a good feel for his scumgame at all). Generally would not recommend blasting there today.