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Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:44 pm
by EnderWiggin
@Alison
@Lime Coke

You guys around?

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:45 pm
by Esooa
I vote wilgy for easy self pres

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:46 pm
by Esooa
I just thought about LC read on me and it's frustrating too even though it's just him town reading me for no reason

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:46 pm
by Esooa
but that's cause I hate mafia lol

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:46 pm
by Esooa
the most optimal way to play mafia is just to make reads based on what people do and to not talk to people about things because that doesn't go anywhere

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:48 pm
by EnderWiggin
Nihilistic mafia reading style. =P

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D1)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:50 pm
by DrWilgy
EnderWiggin wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:36 pm Esooa treatment of Luckbox:
Spoiler: show
Esooa wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:29 pm ender Wiggin is town because he's not trying to act villagery and fake his posts are just things that he thinks

could be out leveling myself on this read, because I think he does have some scummy posts, but town

Alison is town just for having consistently good thoughts that are relevant. I don't care to explain tbh but it's facts

Mac is probably town because of the way he's playing too but I don't care to explain that either

LC can be town sure mostly sheeping, I never care to read him much day 1

luckbox if he's a wolf is bussing someone. And he's currently wolf reading only people I think are town so....

wolves are Kami 112
Esooa wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:19 pm I've decided it's not luckbox
Esooa wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:44 am
iaafr wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:40 am yeah sheeping alison onto luckbox is

kind of what i wish i did atp

i just kinda liked some stuff i saw from him and he had the legit 65h workweek alibi for why he didnt scruitinze alison like alison seemed to expect

im also not sure i agree with "you always wolfread me" sentiments as actually >rand w but maybe it is, havent really kept track
tgbh I'm still 100% fine with the Kami lynch who care she flipped town, I think Luckbox still is town more likely than not and more likely than I would be thinking Kami is town rn unless Luck exactly is a wolf
Esooa wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:57 am
Luckbox Inc wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:48 pm ok what's going to happen tonight?

I'm supposed to go to the casino so probably missing/on phone for EoD....and I apologize for sucking in advance.

I'd vote Mac, LC or 112 (who I have seen literally 0 posts from) and no one else if night were right now
Luckbox Inc wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:59 pm iifar I have as a villager

Alison I do sort of hope is a villager basically for the exact same post that you liked on me.

Esooa seems like she could be a wolf.

This is only my second game with LC and the vote on me just now seems "opportunistic"-- and I also forget everything about him from my first game other than that he went emo and got modkilled-- so I have no clue what to be looking for there.

Ender I've still never seen wolf and have also never even read a Ender wolf post-- so he's due to be a wolf.

Kami I'll guess is a villager.

112 I've seen 0 posts from. Still reading..on page 4 or 5 but I can powerskim to catch up fully.
but I thought for what he had read that the LC read was reasonable, that if Luckbox is a wolf he probably always includes his wolf partner in the 3 in the first post, meaning 112 was a better vote because LC is town, and I believed too Mac was town (still think probably he is), so I didn't want to vote Luckbox really ever because 112 is just straight up better

Luckbox/Ender I guess is possible but it's hard to judge because idk what Luckbox is even aware of, like how likely he thinks it is Ender would be voted. The read on Ender seems weird but he didn't say he'd vote him so I think it's just a weird luckbox post which he has a lot of

the reason I said I'd just call Luckbox town earlier though was cause I think his read on me irt Kami was good, less sure now on that though mostly cause the way he actually handled it seems a bit awkard
Esooa wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:11 am
Alison wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 am Kami is probably town for leaping to the conclusion that it was theater.

Peaceing out for now.
not a read I should need to explain at all but Alisons early reads are all fine

iaafr town, luckbox wolfy but not going to hold onto that at all, Mac towny, Ender wolfy

the way she interacts with all of them is what I'd expect

Super boring read to explain but haha I didn't type enough words for people to be happy so I'll do that now cause why not
Esooa wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:33 am but maybe it is luckbox tbh true
Esooa wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:33 am luckbox/ender/Wilgy my PoE righ tnow and I'm fine with it
Esooa wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:10 am Mac call me town for towning luckbox for good reasons and pushing 112
Here's how Esooa goes over luckbox. Note the trend downwards as he becomes scumread.

Luckbox treatment of Esooa:
Spoiler: show
Luckbox Inc wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:35 pm I'm probably going to have to read but Esooa's approach to Kami-- especially if she said she can't read Kami when I definitely remember her literally teaching me how to read Kami-- is weird/wolfy
Luckbox Inc wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:59 pm iifar I have as a villager

Alison I do sort of hope is a villager basically for the exact same post that you liked on me.

Esooa seems like she could be a wolf.

This is only my second game with LC and the vote on me just now seems "opportunistic"-- and I also forget everything about him from my first game other than that he went emo and got modkilled-- so I have no clue what to be looking for there.

Ender I've still never seen wolf and have also never even read a Ender wolf post-- so he's due to be a wolf.

Kami I'll guess is a villager.

112 I've seen 0 posts from. Still reading..on page 4 or 5 but I can powerskim to catch up fully.
Luckbox Inc wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:10 pm I had to go to work to deal with potential drama with a guest that I'm waiting to materialize so on phone now and potentially missing eod.

I don't think voting esooa is a good idea fwiw but she can definitely be a wolf.
Has Esooa as wolfy in all outed reads on her but never pushes her.

These are both standard displays of how Esooa/Luckbox treat partners.

Ex: Ice Cream Mafia (Esooa), Vig 10er CFC Subforum (Luckbox), other games. There is the exception that Esooa will aggressively bus if she either thinks that the partner is making things too obvious or not working well with her. Which is not what I'd expect from Luckbox.

Luckbox often partially busses teammates but in a distancing way rather than a bussing way. It's very rare that he doesn't sus at least one of his partners for no reason.
I'll just stop my skim right here and say it's not you Ender. I believe you see Luckbox and Esooa as scum together in this post.

I'll go back and read the more recent stuff again now.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:50 pm
by DrWilgy
Oic. Not giving me much of a choice Esooa.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:51 pm
by EnderWiggin
Alison has the choice and isn't even here.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:51 pm
by EnderWiggin
Inb4 Alison is the wolf and we're punking ourselves.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:52 pm
by DrWilgy
@Esooa self pres into Alison with me.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:52 pm
by EnderWiggin
Lol no. I will vote you if you do that.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:52 pm
by Esooa
wilgy just did the thing where you look at things presented as they are in that post while not realizing, wolf or not, enders interpretation of my treatment of partners isn't as he believes and the patterns he outlines are loosely correlated in this game but only in the way they generally will always be

I could probably call it wolfy because he knows ender is town so accepts the interpretation more easily but it's not necessarily so

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:52 pm
by DrWilgy
I'm just sad that I've been too busy to buckle down and solve the game this weekend.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:54 pm
by Esooa
wilgy if you tie me btw I intend to self vote because giving town a flip is better than not so it's reasonably seen as "not throwing"

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:54 pm
by DrWilgy
EnderWiggin wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:52 pm Lol no. I will vote you if you do that.
I guess I'll die for it then.

Oh well. I don't wanna be in f3 anyways. I think the chances of y'all solving is better with either me or Esooa dead.

I just want Alison for self validation at this point. I keep reading them as wolf.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:54 pm
by Esooa
fine I vote Alison

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:54 pm
by DrWilgy
Esooa wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:54 pm wilgy if you tie me btw I intend to self vote because giving town a flip is better than not so it's reasonably seen as "not throwing"
Lol the suicidal mindmeld

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:54 pm
by Esooa
wilgy ate is op

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:55 pm
by DrWilgy
I don't intend to AtE, I just think this is the way lol

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:56 pm
by Lime Coke
Wait what the hell is going on?

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:56 pm
by Lime Coke
Oh, right.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:56 pm
by EnderWiggin
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:56 pm Wait what the hell is going on?
I wanted to know that.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:56 pm
by Esooa
okay well lime coke was informed by someone of EoD

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:57 pm
by Lime Coke
Esooa wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:46 pm I just thought about LC read on me and it's frustrating too even though it's just him town reading me for no reason
If I actually allowed myself to explain it, it would sort of make sense but, again, you're the type of player to adapt and fuck me over on it if I'm right.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:57 pm
by EnderWiggin
I pinged him in this thread, yes.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:57 pm
by Esooa
I don't actually believe that I just wanted to post it because it's towny

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:57 pm
by Lime Coke
Esooa wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:56 pm okay well lime coke was informed by someone of EoD
I got pinged by Ender.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:57 pm
by DrWilgy
Esooa wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:52 pm wilgy just did the thing where you look at things presented as they are in that post while not realizing, wolf or not, enders interpretation of my treatment of partners isn't as he believes and the patterns he outlines are loosely correlated in this game but only in the way they generally will always be

I could probably call it wolfy because he knows ender is town so accepts the interpretation more easily but it's not necessarily so
I see the argument. I would be all for it if he was trying and successful at flipping you prior to LB.

I think the fact that they went for LB and flipped them instead of you going "well I guess I was wrong" then detracting from LB is huge in difference.

Like, of this play was to bus LB and yeet you in association, it wasn't worth at all.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:58 pm
by Lime Coke
I....don't know what to do...

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:58 pm
by Esooa
ender voted me also look at luckboxs posts

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:59 pm
by Esooa
you have one minute

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:59 pm
by DrWilgy
Like where does Scum Ender go after that when you are gone Esooa? F3 with Me, Alison and himself? I don't see them taking that association above just to gain that F3.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:59 pm
by Esooa
alisons vote is objectively anti town

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:00 am
by Esooa
you actually fucking just let a no kill go through okay why am I in this game again

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:01 am
by Esooa
I'm going to make min posts in mylo which will be an alison vote

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:01 am
by DrWilgy
Lol is it a no kill?

Fuck I'd rather have suicides. I thought It was eng like the past 1 games I played.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:02 am
by Esooa
nope no rng

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:02 am
by DrWilgy
*RNG

Not eng

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:02 am
by Lime Coke
Ummm....whaaat the shit I didn't know ties were no kills.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:02 am
by DrWilgy
I fucked up then. Sorry.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:02 am
by leetic
After all the sensationalist stories in the news, the Mollies decided it would be best to stay inside the mines for the day. They knew they couldn't keep going like this forever, but they needed time to plan out their next move.

Nobody has died. It is now N3, which will end 11pm tomorrow ETC.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:03 am
by DrWilgy
Motherfucker.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:03 am
by Lime Coke
Can we get hammers after this so this doesn't go longer?

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (D3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:03 am
by EnderWiggin
... Ties are not kills?

Well fuck me.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (N3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:04 am
by EnderWiggin
Esooa knowing this and not changing back to Wilgy is kinda anti-town. =P

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (N3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:05 am
by DrWilgy
Alright then, so theoretically we can just attempt a tie and a no kill again next day phase to put us back into a safer hunting range?

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (N3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:06 am
by Esooa
apparently not realizing that a large amount of irl days into a game people would know the rules of the game is wolfy

you are here voting wilgy for no reason other than because he voted Alison while not believing it's him and LC just didn't really do anything and Alison didn't even fucking vote

wilgy and I were the only people who actually showed up and voted our wolf reads

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (N3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:06 am
by DrWilgy
I'm screaming. I could've just killed myself to give best chances and I didn't.

Re: The Molly Maguires Mafia (N3)

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:07 am
by Esooa
continue to conf bias though