The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:40 pm**

no im not
not enough time
and he logged off
and everyone logged off
what the fuck

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:41 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:26 pm if youre a villager im going to be beyond fucking pissed

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:44 pm**

I'm still on

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing
:huh:

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?

YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:47 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:39 pm i swear to god nova you are going to lose us this game holy shit

You're going to lose the game.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 pm**

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]
[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]

hey
guess what
you also put luna into a group with rey

so why not vote him?
what the fuck

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -

So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:48 pm @novaselinenever
@novaselinenever

hey
guess what
you also put luna into a group with rey

so why not vote him?
what the fuck

That's the group I'm the least sure about lolol

They switched one after the other to G-Man last phase which is giving me some weird vibes. G-Man flipped civ so I don't understand, and he was tied with you.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing
:huh:

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -
So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?

its mylo
they literally have to steer one mislynch to win
but you think they would try to lynch their scum buddy instead?

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:51 pm**

15 minutes.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -
So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?
its mylo
they literally have to steer one mislynch to win
but you think they would try to lynch their scum buddy instead?

It's the optimal play. But not overdo it.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm**

Where are you Nutella?

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm**

nova you are literally voting luna who has both of your scum candidates on her

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:54 pm**

LITERALLY

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:55 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 pm How about we lynch Epi? He's in your pair, and in my pair. There won't be a tie
you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing
:huh:

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -
So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?
its mylo
they literally have to steer one mislynch to win
but you think they would try to lynch their scum buddy instead?
It's the optimal play. But not overdo it.

thats not fucking optimal

if thats actually what they are doing then their brain is comparable to that of a vegetable

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:55 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm nova you are literally voting luna who has both of your scum candidates on her

Luna > Reywas

I'm waiting to switch on Epi

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:55 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:55 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:50 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:43 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:38 pm

you say that but you dont realise how epi and rey are also on luna
both of whom you pair with luna

so what in the fuck are you doing

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you believe that the last 2 baddies aren't capable of voting each other?
YES
BECAUSE THAT LEADS NO WHERE
THAT WOULD JUST PUT THEM IN A WORSE SITUATION

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

im this close to going apeshit dude -
So you believe they'll be giving themselves up when there is no guarantee to win? Instead of keeping their distance, maximizing their chances with the possibility that they don't even get lynched, or they're in a position to switch at the last minute?
its mylo
they literally have to steer one mislynch to win
but you think they would try to lynch their scum buddy instead?
It's the optimal play. But not overdo it.
thats not fucking optimal

if thats actually what they are doing then their brain is comparable to that of a vegetable

Lol

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:56 pm**

So you're saying Reywas and Epi are giving themselves up rn?

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:57 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:56 pm So you're saying Reywas and Epi are giving themselves up rn?

not really
since they are this close to winning it all

literally

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:00 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:57 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:56 pm So you're saying Reywas and Epi are giving themselves up rn?
not really
since they are this close to winning it all

literally

That might be going in someone's signature.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm**

Nutella you're giving me the hibbie jibbies

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:02 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm Nutella you're giving me the hibbie jibbies

vote epi pls
then that makes it a 2/3 chance for a lynch of my choice to happen

i will when you do it tho

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm**

Epi when you switching to get the dub?

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm**

fuck it [VOTE: epi] aubergine
do it nova

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm**

its 2/3 for me
and 2/3 for you

its a better setup

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:04 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm Nutella you're giving me the hibbie jibbies
vote epi pls
then that makes it a 2/3 chance for a lynch of my choice to happen

i will when you do it tho

I'm on him.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:04 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:04 pm
MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:02 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:01 pm Nutella you're giving me the hibbie jibbies
vote epi pls
then that makes it a 2/3 chance for a lynch of my choice to happen

i will when you do it tho
I'm on him.

alright now its a three way tie
with 2 of them being our prime choices
yours is epi and luna
mine is epi and reywas

now its a better chance

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:05 pm**

Baddies are going to switch votes and win the game.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:05 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm Epi when you switching to get the dub?

I'm not switching. If you are a civilian, and you cause me to lose, that's okay. I have plenty of rings.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:05 pm**

you know 4 is hammer right
so epi couldve switched his vote to rey WHENEVER

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:05 pm**

Switch back to Reyawas. I'll go with you and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. If I'm right and we loose, I'll feel vindicated which is a win inn my book

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:06 pm**

what the fuck just happened

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:06 pm**

Epi switched to Reywas

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:06 pm**

Locking...

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:07 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:06 pm what the fuck just happened

I already told you.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:47 pm You're going to lose the game.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:17 pm**

reywaS has been lynched.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:18 pm**

Endgame

With the ice cream cartons culled, the Frozen Fiends were able to make their final strike ...

Spoiler: show

Congratulations to Epignosis (Bag of Frozen Vegetables), nutella (The Last Orange Popsicle), and sprityo, the mafia, for their victory.

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:18 pm**

Host Notes

Regarding the ratio. The short version: despite having played Mafia on-and-off for 13 years or so, I had never heard of Mountainous set-ups until Jay and Nova had a conversation about it. Oops!

The slightly longer version: when it was clear we were stalled short of my ideal size, I deliberated for a long time between 10v2 and 9v3, and consulting the available literature on balance (which some of it, I see now, talks about Mountainous — oops again) I couldn't settle on a good ratio. 9v3 felt like it might be overkill, but 10v2 felt like it was heavily skewed against the scum — catch one and, knowing how good these players are, the game could be immediately over. In the end I realize I hyped up the players we had (a compliment to you all) and while I can’t anticipate everything, I'm sorry if anybody feels cheated.

So 9v3 was not a decision made carelessly, but it seems to go against what's understood to be balanced, and again, I apologize. It’s not ideal, but I hope people still had some fun and walk away with lots of juicy notes on each other, if nothing else. Thanks again for playing, and don't forget the other games in sign-ups now!

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:19 pm**

Should have trusted my gut feeling on Nutella, and made people follow my vote there lol

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:19 pm**

Good game baddies

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:19 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:20 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:20 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 pm Epi when you switching to get the dub?

[mention]Epignosis[/mention]

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:20 pm**

There was a half-second almost at the very end where there were 4 votes on Epignosis. Head-ass meat slabs at the end of a phase are never your friend, town!

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:21 pm**

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:18 pm
Host Notes
Regarding the ratio. The short version: despite having played Mafia on-and-off for 13 years or so, I had never heard of Mountainous set-ups until Jay and Nova had a conversation about it. Oops!

The slightly longer version: when it was clear we were stalled short of my ideal size, I deliberated for a long time between 10v2 and 9v3, and consulting the available literature on balance (which some of it, I see now, talks about Mountainous — oops again) I couldn't settle on a good ratio. 9v3 felt like it might be overkill, but 10v2 felt like it was heavily skewed against the scum — catch one and, knowing how good these players are, the game could be immediately over. In the end I realize I hyped up the players we had (a compliment to you all) and while I can’t anticipate everything, I'm sorry if anybody feels cheated.

So 9v3 was not a decision made carelessly, but it seems to go against what's understood to be balanced, and again, I apologize. It’s not ideal, but I hope people still had some fun and walk away with lots of juicy notes on each other, if nothing else. Thanks again for playing, and don't forget the other games in sign-ups now!

Thanks for the game!

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:22 pm**

ok im shouldnt make excuses but im still going to

your poll system is broken, very broken
thought it was majority lynch

uh
and thats it

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:22 pm**

Don’t sweat the balance, Colin. I don’t feel cheated. Thanks for running the game!

Go to hell for making me “chicken wing ice cream” though

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:23 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:25 pm**

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:22 pm ok im shouldnt make excuses but im still going to

your poll system is broken, very broken
thought it was majority lynch

uh
and thats it

You didn't lose because of our poll system.

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